LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, JohnC said: If you were tasked with putting together a trade deal with Anaheim for Jack what would be a reasonable deal for both sides? Well Zegras wouldn't be on the table if I am Anaheim. That would probably be the only prospect I refuse to part with. Drysdale I suppose might also make that list which I think makes this difficult. 3rd overall, Jacob Perrault, Adam Henrique (cap and position reasons), and Maxim Comtois for Jack Eichel I am sure many will dislike this trade and I don't love it but I think that's more in line with what we might see. 3rd overall, Zegras, and Henrique for Eichel might also be something that is in the realm of possibilities. Hard to say really. Now if I am Buffalo, I am demanding Zegras and 3rd overall or no deal. If Anaheim is upset about losing 3rd overall you can always sweeten the pot with 1 of the 2 2nds we have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Not too many diehard Jackers. Can you imagine this thread five years ago? Two? Of course the people ahead of the curve always get lashed. It looks like a lot of you also knew deep down he wasn't the guy. Tank fruit and all though, first born son. I respectfully but strenuously disagree with your view of Jack. Jack didn't fail---the organization did. Because of the systemic ineptitude starting with the owner this franchise has been erratically run for a decade. Jack isn't the only player who wants out. There are others who are fed up with the disorganization that has led us to again being the worst team in the league. The organization has a lot to do to internally to right the ship. Edited June 16, 2021 by JohnC 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Well Zegras wouldn't be on the table if I am Anaheim. That would probably be the only prospect I refuse to part with. Drysdale I suppose might also make that list which I think makes this difficult. 3rd overall, Jacob Perrault, Adam Henrique (cap and position reasons), and Maxim Comtois for Jack Eichel I am sure many will dislike this trade and I don't love it but I think that's more in line with what we might see. 3rd overall, Zegras, and Henrique for Eichel might also be something that is in the realm of possibilities. Hard to say really. Now if I am Buffalo, I am demanding Zegras and 3rd overall or no deal. If Anaheim is upset about losing 3rd overall you can always sweeten the pot with 1 of the 2 2nds we have. I'm with you. At least Zegras and their pick or walk away from the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Not too many diehard Jackers. Can you imagine this thread five years ago? Two? Of course the people ahead of the curve always get lashed. It looks like a lot of you also knew deep down he wasn't the guy. Tank fruit and all though, first born son. Lol what? Don't agree with this. I think trading Eichel will most likely be a mistake but acquiring him was not. Not building a team around him and constantly hiring incompetent coaching and gms certainly played a major part. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, JohnC said: I respectfully but strenuously disagree with your view of Jack. Jack didn't fail---the organization did. Because of the systemic ineptitude starting with the owner this franchise has been erratically run for a decade. Jack isn't the only player who wants out. There are others who are fed up with the disorganization that has led us to again being the worst team in the league, again. The organization has a lot to do internally to right the ship. and it's going to be difficult to get players to come here. FAs will not have Buffalo on their list of teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, nucci said: and it's going to be difficult to get players to come here. FAs will not have Buffalo on their list of teams To put it mildly we are not a destination location. When you build a ramshackle house no one wants to reside in it. Adding talent will mostly be done through trades and internal player development. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, JohnC said: I respectfully but strenuously disagree with your view of Jack. Jack didn't fail---the organization did. Because of the systemic ineptitude starting with the owner this franchise has been erratically run for a decade. Jack isn't the only player who wants out. There are others who are fed up with the disorganization that has led us to again being the worst team in the league. The organization has a lot to do internally to right the ship. To absolve the players on these crummy teams is ludicrous. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: To absolve the players on these crummy teams is ludicrous. Except when we literally have the data that shows no matter how good one player is, it's not enough to elevate a hockey team in spite on the rest of the roster. The Oilers have only been better than we have corresponding to the talent gap between Eichel and Reinhart and McDavid and Draisaitl. If we had them, we'd be them. They've achieved nothing. Surely you wouldn't argue their puny accomplishments (including mostly missing the playoffs) since acquiring perhaps the greatest talent to ever play the game is a result worthy of the talent of that player? Of course McDavid should be absolved - because it's the rest of the team that isn't living up to the requirement. This isn't Basketball, Jack can be really good yet, even if he's the best player to ever play the game, not enough to make even much of a dent. Edited June 16, 2021 by Thorny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 As others have stated, this organization has failed Jack vs. the other way around. That said though, I think it was a mistake to make him captain...which may have been a collective failure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: Not too many diehard Jackers. Can you imagine this thread five years ago? Two? Of course the people ahead of the curve always get lashed. It looks like a lot of you also knew deep down he wasn't the guy. Tank fruit and all though, first born son. There is no such thing as “the guy” on an NHL team. It takes several “the guy”s to make a good team. 1 hour ago, Thorny said: THIS Jacker remains, and remains hard. This thread “5 years ago”? Try 5 months ago What is a Jacker? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Curt said: There is no such thing as “the guy” on an NHL team. It takes several “the guy”s to make a good team. What is a Jacker? Lol Means to a joke, for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: Definitely seems like the piece Adams is prioritizing is a lotto ticket I will be sorely disappointed if the main event piece is a draft pick. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 The entire Eichel saga reminds me of the political strategies these days. Keep putting out statements from all over that point to one thing to slowly wear down those who would have resistance to it (the fans). Eventually you get to a point where the fans are sick of hearing about and just want it to happen. They never wanted to happen initially but now the message is out there so much that it's fine.. just let it happen. I've never been 100% on the Eichel train. The season before last he really stepped up. This season is just an absolute aberration making it hard to judge anything. But at this point... I just don't even care any more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 56 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: To absolve the players on these crummy teams is ludicrous. Yes, clearly it was Jack's fault the team was bad and not things like throwing out a goalie who needed a seeing eye dog on a nightly basis or a neverending series of entry level coach and GM hires instead of actual proven pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 I think Anaheim is the most likely contender at this point. Minnesota and Vancouver also make some sense. If reports are true and half of the rangers prospects and young players are untouchable I wouldn't even return their calls. Columbus has nothing I want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 The real question for Anaheim is, is Trevor Zegras in play? That's the interesting question mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The real question for Anaheim is, is Trevor Zegras in play? That's the interesting question mark. If not the trade is an L no matter what . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) Hope so. And pick wise could KA possible be looking for scratchers for next year. Edited June 16, 2021 by steveoath Reply was to liger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalonill Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 It be pretty cool to end up with 1-3 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: It be pretty cool to end up with 1-3 picks Not when they don’t pick Guenther with either.😜😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 Picks 1 and 3 would mean, Power at one and either Guenther or Beniers at 3 as my guess. I think they probably avoid Europe at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Friedman’s comment about Anaheim “keeping their powder dry” and preparing “something big” are getting way too little play, IMO. As I pointed out in the Ducks Shopping thread, there are too many matching parts and needs for this not to be a serious consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 If Anaheim is the team Zegras HAS to come back. Zegras, 3 OA are the two pieces I am pushing for. Murray said they can’t score so would they be interested in Olaf as well in a bigger deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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