Huckleberry Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 I wouldn't be happy about this, he is one of few that can throw his body around a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 I can see Tampa wanting a gritty D man like Risto for their cup run but I can't see them weakening the existing roster to do it so it'd be picks and prospects and that would be like another tear down of our D so I don't like the idea unless it's a huge return. I wonder if they aren't perhaps actually looking at Bogo for the same reasons, a gritty D man for a cup run? He's had a great year after all and is at peak value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOutsideChicago Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) I worry that a deal with TB will fall in line with the disappointing returns Botts got from San Jose and St Louis. TB would most likely mean a deal including picks and far from NHL ready guys. No more kicking the can down the road please. Edited February 24, 2019 by JustOutsideChicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejeanerret Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 I see offense coming back in a deal for Risto. JT Miller or Tyler Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: I can see Tampa wanting a gritty D man like Risto for their cup run but I can't see them weakening the existing roster to do it so it'd be picks and prospects and that would be like another tear down of our D so I don't like the idea unless it's a huge return. I wonder if they aren't perhaps actually looking at Bogo for the same reasons, a gritty D man for a cup run? He's had a great year after all and is at peak value. They'd have to move almost $4 million to make the cap hit work in the short term, and probably more to make it work for next year. Somebody's coming off the roster to bring him in if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Also think this is a stupid move by Tampa. Why make such a significant move to your already perfect team? I never get why contending teams do anything at the deadline other than get depth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, Sabel79 said: They'd have to move almost $4 million to make the cap hit work in the short term, and probably more to make it work for next year. Somebody's coming off the roster to bring him in if it happens. we could be retaining salary to get the prospect. Just now, WildCard said: Also think this is a stupid move by Tampa. Why make such a significant move to your already perfect team? I never get why contending teams do anything at the deadline other than get depth cause last year they were too soft and they are still worried about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, PerreaultForever said: we could be retaining salary to get the prospect. cause last year they were too soft and they are still worried about it. The only team that can stop them is themselves. Or Nashville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, WildCard said: The only team that can stop them is themselves. Or Nashville I think Winnipeg not Nashville but you're right, they are the clear favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: I find myself in favor of what makes you melt down ? Ha, and here i am heading to Toronto on Saturday to follow these idiots......insanity Edited February 24, 2019 by CallawaySabres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: So gonna hope a big RHD would be coming back if Risto is moving. Foote and Cernak both fit this description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Foote and Cernak both fit this description. Unless I'm not remembering correctly, Foote is a better skater. I'd take Foote and Cirelli as part of the package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Unless I'm not remembering correctly, Foote is a better skater. I'd take Foote and Cirelli as part of the package. Cirelli scored the ot winner for my gens in the memorial cup final in 2015. I have many fawn memories of some big time clutch goals. Would love for him to become a sabre. He's put up some decent stats in basically his rookie season as well. No way he would be a centre piece but I would love him to be included. Don't know much about Foote. Adams son? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Tampa has too many defenseman now. I read they have to sit one NHL ready player each night on rotation. Why would they want Risto? This has to be about Skinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Tampa isn't exactly a perfect fit for what I'd want out of a deal, but they've got a ton of pieces of talks are trending in a direction where Botterill wants to amass several assets. Foote, Cernak, Cirelli, Raddysh all mentioned already. Callahan's contract could easily be involved. JT Miller has been talked about as a trade candidate. If we're tasked with taking on Callahan's contract I'd want to get three of the first four names above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hoss said: Tampa isn't exactly a perfect fit for what I'd want out of a deal, but they've got a ton of pieces of talks are trending in a direction where Botterill wants to amass several assets. Foote, Cernak, Cirelli, Raddysh all mentioned already. Callahan's contract could easily be involved. JT Miller has been talked about as a trade candidate. If we're tasked with taking on Callahan's contract I'd want to get three of the first four names above. Good stuff Hoss, so there is some truth to these rumors based on your first sentence? Also here are Pronman’s Tampa Bay Prospect Rankings from the Summer Prospect Rankings LEGIT NHL PROSPECT 1. Alexander Volkov, RW, Syracuse-AHL Volkov made a lot of noise at Tampa’s camp and followed it up with a very good first AHL season. He has all the tools you want. His skills are high-end, he makes plays, he has size and he skates well. His toolkit shows a player with top-six forward upside. Over the years he’s shown a willingness to battle, as well, and play a 200-foot game. There were some consistency issues for him as he made the transition to the North American pro game, and there were times I watched him fade a bit into the background, but the indicators for him were much more positive than negative. 2. Cal Foote, D, Kelowna-WHL Foote was one of the best defensemen in the WHL this season and looked decent at the WJC and AHL levels, too. He’s 6-foot-4, is very smart and poised moving the puck. He can be a reliable defender, as well, who leans on his checks and makes a lot of stops. He’s a steady pillar for his coach to deploy and can play in any situation. There is a bit of an upside question for him as his hands are average, good for a big man but he won’t make standout plays, and his skating is subpar. 3. Boris Katchouk, LW, Sault Ste. Marie-OHL Katchouk was one of the top players in the OHL this season and led the OHL postseason in scoring. I had my skepticism about his upside going into the season but really liked what he did offensively. He played a lot with Morgan Frost but by no means was Katchouk riding Frost’s coattails. Katchouk showed his trademark energy and physicality but also played with skill, executing difficult plays with his hands and vision. His feet have progressed, too, where he’s able to get up and down the rink at a decent pace. He projects as a guy who can play anywhere in a lineup. 4. Anthony Cirelli, C, Tampa Bay-NHL Cirelli continued to impress at every level he played at over the past few years. This season it was initially in the AHL and then in the NHL for the second half and postseason. Cirelli’s skill level isn’t that high, limiting his upside to a likely third-line forward, but he has a lot of positives. He skates very well, is an intelligent two-way center who can make plays and works his butt off. His speed allows him to kill penalties well and be a shorthanded threat. He has some hands, but they’re average at best. 5. Mathieu Joseph, LW, Syracuse-AHL Joseph has become a favorite of mine as I’ve watched him closely the past few years between the QMJHL and AHL. He’s a great skater with above-average skills, and while his playmaking may not be high-end, he showed this season he could be a consistent offensive threat, at times a critical cog running Syracuse’s power play. He also works hard and can kill penalties. Adding more bulk to his lean frame will go a long way for his style of play. 6. Taylor Raddysh, RW, Sault Ste. Marie-OHL Last season I was impressed by the strides Raddysh made, but I watched him a lot this season and often was left wanting for a little more impact. It’s hard to argue with his numbers, though, and he has talent. Raddysh is a big winger who competes hard for pucks and can make skilled plays. He has good hands, sees the ice well, if not very well, and can finish chances. He’s a great net-front guy on the man advantage who can also make plays down low. The main issue with him is his below-average skating, but I think there’s enough offense to his game to compensate. 7. Erik Cernak, D, Syracuse-AHL After what seemed like a few seasons of stagnant development for Cernak, who was acquired in the Ben Bishop deal, this season was a notable step forward. Cernak has a lot of intriguing tools. He’s a 6-foot-4 defenseman who skates and moves the puck rather well for a big man. He plays hard, leaning on his checks with his massive frame, and can lay out some big hits. Cernak’s main issue historically is managing risk and his decision making. In the OHL, he simplified his game a lot, to the point that it took away from his offense. But in the AHL, he seemed to find a happy medium, and toward the end of the season, he was running his team’s top PP unit. He has a ways to go still, but he’s trending in the right direction. 8. Otto Somppi, C, Halifax-QMJHL I wasn’t sold on Somppi last season, but when I watched Halifax this season, I came away quite impressed. I see a well-rounded forward. He’s skilled, he can make plays, he plays with speed and he can be effective on both special teams. I even saw the occasional flash of high-end ability from Somppi as a playmaker. A shoulder injury nagged him earlier in his QMJHL career, but it seems to be behind him, and he made an impact when healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Hoss said: Tampa isn't exactly a perfect fit for what I'd want out of a deal, but they've got a ton of pieces of talks are trending in a direction where Botterill wants to amass several assets. Foote, Cernak, Cirelli, Raddysh all mentioned already. Callahan's contract could easily be involved. JT Miller has been talked about as a trade candidate. If we're tasked with taking on Callahan's contract I'd want to get three of the first four names above. If we take back Callahan's contract I'll kick the next puppy I run into. The ONLY acceptable reason to take that contract is if we're getting Point, which we know isn't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Tampa has too many defenseman now. I read they have to sit one NHL ready player each night on rotation. Why would they want Risto? This has to be about Skinner I hope you're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 I don't see how Skinner comes into the conversation at all. Skinner isn't going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 To be honest not really interested in Cal Foote if his skating is like his father. The word pillar might be very accurate in a different meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Dreger said in a response to a question about the Risto Rumors there is no truth to them. Then again Botterill is pretty tight lipped about these things, we will have to see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Bad idea. Tampa has got a good thing going. Changing their makeup now is a solution in search of a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Best thing they could get from Tampa is the rights to Stevie Y. Buffalo is a lot closer to Detroit and I’ll bet he misses running a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, tom webster said: Best thing they could get from Tampa is the rights to Stevie Y. Buffalo is a lot closer to Detroit and I’ll bet he misses running a team. He's moving to Detroit this summer and will likely be their next GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Dreger said in a response to a question about the Risto Rumors there is no truth to them. Then again Botterill is pretty tight lipped about these things, we will have to see what happens It was fun while it lasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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