freester Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 I would love to see the Sabres extend Skinner and sign Matt Duchenne in free agency. To do this they would have to free up some cap space. What would we have to give someone like Arizona to take Okposa? I'm thinking Ghule and a first round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 KO's contract is like Herpes. It's forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 We just freed up cap space by cutting Berglund. Not sure about Duchenne, but I expect JBot to dabble in the free agent market this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: KO's contract is like Herpes. It's forever. I bet there are a lot of herpes sufferers who would be jealous that his contract will, in fact, go away after four more seasons. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 There's only 2 realistic ways that they're getting out of Okposo's contract. A buyout that becomes available after the next lockout or if he starts having concussion issues again & has to retire due to the medical condition. Both still leave the Pegulas on the hook for the full $ amount but both (presumably) clear the entire remaining cap hit. Yeah, they might luck into someone looking to get to the league floor, but that's a much longer shot until we're into the next CBA. Nobody is letting the Sabres out of 3-1/2 years of the contract. But with Berglund going away, that single LT bad contract's not a killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, freester said: I would love to see the Sabres extend Skinner and sign Matt Duchenne in free agency. To do this they would have to free up some cap space. What would we have to give someone like Arizona to take Okposa? I'm thinking Ghule and a first round pick. Duchene is not a player I'd want on my team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Pommers and Moulson come off the books this summer. There’s Skinners raise and about three other RFA guys taken care of. The Sabres are in a pretty good cap situation for the next couple years, all things considered. By the time Dahlin needs paid, who knows A: what the cap will be and B: what other roster moves will have been made. KO’s contract, while certainly a lasting monument to the questionable methods of our prior GM, isn’t a killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 It all comes down to the price another team would require to take KO's contract. A 3rd-round pick? Definitely. A good D prospect like Guhle? NFW, unless the Sabres are convinced that Guhle isn't going to be an NHL defenseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 How much do people want Duchenne as our #2 center? if you think he is very good, he certainly fills a major need. To sign him and Skinner would require moving Okposo. Would you trade with Ottawa now for an extended Duchenne (assume 7yr 49) for Okposa, Guhle and a number 1? Feel free to make modifications that you think Ottawa would accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Blizzard Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Cap issues are manageable assuming Sabres get more primary scoring from Mittelstadt, Thompson and some other forward not named Skinner, Eichel or Reinhart. Couple that with continued development of the defense, I could see a "stand pat" and retain our core working longer term. The issue happens if JBot has to go after scoring to supplement our Big 3. I don't see a realistic scenario to get out from KO's contract. The lowest payroll team this year is $4M above floor, no team is going to take on KO contract for that purpose. I'm against trading assets to pay for a GMTM mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 I like Okposo's game. He's not scoring, but he plays hard and contributes in other ways... he's physical and vocal. That said, yes, he's extremely overpaid... but I wouldn't sacrifice futures just to get his contract off the books. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Georgia Blizzard said: Cap issues are manageable assuming Sabres get more primary scoring from Mittelstadt, Thompson and some other forward not named Skinner, Eichel or Reinhart. Couple that with continued development of the defense, I could see a "stand pat" and retain our core working longer term. The issue happens if JBot has to go after scoring to supplement our Big 3. I don't see a realistic scenario to get out from KO's contract. The lowest payroll team this year is $4M above floor, no team is going to take on KO contract for that purpose. I'm against trading assets to pay for a GMTM mistake. Very reasonable approach, but assuming JBot wants some additional scoring to supplement big 3, its definitely a problem but the Seattle expansion draft would be another option to dump the contract but we would have to give up assets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 The only scenario trade-wise I can see is getting somebody else's bad contract in return. Maybe a situation where we take a player with an even higher annual cap hit, but less year's remaining. Perhaps a player who's game that somehow "fits" better than KO's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Cut the brake lines in his car. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinFL Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Leave him exposed to Seattle and offer them a sweetener. New expansion teams need to build a pipeline from the ground up so hopefully we can offer picks for them to choose him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Blizzard Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 He has a 15-team no trade clause, so, for him to go anywhere anyway, he'll need to be cooperative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Buff Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, StuckinFL said: Leave him exposed to Seattle and offer them a sweetener. New expansion teams need to build a pipeline from the ground up so hopefully we can offer picks for them to choose him. That'd be great, however its gonna take a helluva sweetener. My fear is that Seattle tries to go after Ulmark. We're gonna have to give them a good asset to protect the right players, yet alone getting rid of Okposos ghastly contract. Surely KO knows he hasnt lived up to his contract. If he was such a class guy, it'd be nice if he'd restructure his deal to give the team more flexibility to improve the roster. But of course that won't happen, KO is no Tom Brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Here is a scary thought. We have a similar size payroll to TB. Edited January 9, 2019 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, MillerVaive said: That'd be great, however its gonna take a helluva sweetener. My fear is that Seattle tries to go after Ulmark. We're gonna have to give them a good asset to protect the right players, yet alone getting rid of Okposos ghastly contract. Surely KO knows he hasnt lived up to his contract. If he was such a class guy, it'd be nice if he'd restructure his deal to give the team more flexibility to improve the roster. But of course that won't happen, KO is no Tom Brady Hutton or some journeyman tender will be signed to be left exposed in the expansion draft Here is the buyout calculator for each remaining year of Okposo’s Contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Here is a scary thought. We have a similar size payroll to TB. Yeah but TBL will only have about $6m in cap space to fill 7 roster spots next season, including re-signing Brayden Point who will be an RFA, but is well over a 100pt pace. Edited January 9, 2019 by pi2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 45 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Yeah but TBL will only have about $6m in cap space to fill 7 roster spots next season, including re-signing Brayden Point who will be an RFA, but is well over a 100pt pace. He will be our new second line centre after JBot drops an offer sheet on his desk, forever altering the balance of power in the Adams Division ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just wait for a new compliance buyout or eat it until we actually need the money. I don’t see any point in overpaying Duchene, who quit on his last team, so he can play 2C for a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 hours ago, pi2000 said: I like Okposo's game. He's not scoring, but he plays hard and contributes in other ways... he's physical and vocal. That said, yes, he's extremely overpaid... but I wouldn't sacrifice futures just to get his contract off the books. Wow. I'm in full agreement here. That doesn't happen often. Other than maybe the Jack on smack thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 LTIR The kings treatment, slip some cocaine in his bags while crossing the border. Kidnap him, feed him 50kg of hamburgers in two days. Have him decleared unfit and in breach of contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 While I expect scoring from him and it's frustrating that he's not scoring I agree that his play is hard and I do believe his influence is substantial with our young team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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