North Buffalo Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 https://twitter.com/rumorbreak/status/872157015614926849 Leafs offer for Manson of Ducks rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 https://twitter.com/rumorbreak/status/872157015614926849 Leafs offer for Manson of Ducks rumor. Leipsic, Rychel and a 2018 2nd for Manson... really depends on how you view Rychel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Seems like an oddly specific thing to hitch your wagon to Eh, I like when they speak out. I loved when Miller bitched about the Leafs and Lucic, and I liked that he called out his players when they were sucking. I like that Lehner does it. Really, I like ANY athlete that speaks out, if for no other reason than because it breaks up the repetitive monotony of the average sports interview, which is terrible. I think I (or anyone who follows this stuff relatively closely for that matter) could step up to the podium and give basically the same interview as 80% of the players out there and, other than how clearly out of shape I am, no one would know the difference. Show me you give a crap and know something. I also understand why other players would NOT like said person, goalie or otherwise, to speak out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Leipsic, Rychel and a 2018 2nd for Manson... really depends on how you view Rychel. Lol. I'll offer Zemgus, Baptiste, and a 2017 second, then. No chance that gets Manson, Tronna. (I quoted you and not the original link because I was too lazy to click on it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 If we aren't shooting for the fences, I think Manson and Murray would be my favourites gets this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 So I'd be interested in Eberle for Ennis and a 2nd rd pick this year. Age is the same, gives Edmonton almost 3million in cap relief. We get a speedy RW to play with Eichel. Eberle fills in until Nylander/Baptiste is ready to step up to NHL. I would then sign Kane. I like his speed game and aggressive play better than Reinhart. Reinhart would definitly return an elite defenseman like Vatanan or Lindholm. Kane, ROR, Okposo Foligno or UFA, Eichel, Eberle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) So I'd be interested in Eberle for Ennis and a 2nd rd pick this year. Age is the same, gives Edmonton almost 3million in cap relief. We get a speedy RW to play with Eichel. Eberle fills in until Nylander/Baptiste is ready to step up to NHL. I would then sign Kane. I like his speed game and aggressive play better than Reinhart. Reinhart would definitly return an elite defenseman like Vatanan or Lindholm. Kane, ROR, Okposo Foligno or UFA, Eichel, Eberle I don't think that's nearly enough going to Edmonton. Another high pick or prospect is going to have to be included. If a trade doesn't hurt a little when you read it, there isn't enough going the other way. Losing Ennis and a 2nd almost makes me happy, not hurt. Edited June 6, 2017 by inkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) I don't think that's nearly enough going to Edmonton. Another high pick or prospect is going to have to be included. If a trade doesn't hurt a little when you read it, there isn't enough going the other way. Losing Ennis and a 2nd almost makes me happy, not hurt. Agreed. Everything Dreger / Friedman / McKenzie have said is that they're not going to just dump Eberle. It'd be something like Ennis + 2nd + Zemgus + prospect Edited June 6, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 If we aren't shooting for the fences, I think Manson and Murray would be my favourites gets this offseason. Manson yes. But no thanks to glass man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 So I'd be interested in Eberle for Ennis and a 2nd rd pick this year. Age is the same, gives Edmonton almost 3million in cap relief. We get a speedy RW to play with Eichel. Eberle fills in until Nylander/Baptiste is ready to step up to NHL. I would then sign Kane. I like his speed game and aggressive play better than Reinhart. Reinhart would definitly return an elite defenseman like Vatanan or Lindholm. Kane, ROR, Okposo Foligno or UFA, Eichel, Eberle This sounds like a Darcy trade proposal. No way that would be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Ennis, CHI's 2nd in 2017& ours in 2018 plus a B prospect like Karabachek for Eberle Kane and Min's 2nd for 11, Martinez, Brown(50%) 11 and Marcus Foligno for Boone Jenner Girgs & WSH's 3rd to Chicago for Kruger and their 2nd Edited June 6, 2017 by thewookie1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 What about Kane for Kovalchuk and a 2nd rnd pick? Great trade? or Greatest trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 What about Kane for Kovalchuk and a 2nd rnd pick? Great trade? or Greatest trade? Kovie will want 12m for 12 years ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 If we exclude Ennis, are there any top 6 forwards in Buffalo under 6'? I listed guys that are also potential top 6 players too. Seems to me that we have plenty of size in this lineup. I think the important part isn't 1 or 2 inches or 5 or 10lbs but how well they play. ROR - 6' 209lbs Okposo - 6' 216lbs Eichel - 6'2" 196lbs Reinhart - 6'1" 190lbs Kane - 6'2" 205lbs Carrier - 6'2" 212lbs Bailey - 6'3" 214lbs Baptiste - 6'1' 205lbs Fasching - 6'2" 215lbs Nylander - 6'1" 181lbs I'm with ya. I don't disagree with you, if a guy can play he can play, a couple guys with heart and hustle wouldn't be too bad. I think Geuntzel and Sheary have done well but Archibald looked like a little boy out there last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Agreed. Everything Dreger / Friedman / McKenzie have said is that they're not going to just dump Eberle. It'd be something like Ennis + 2nd + Zemgus + prospect Unless that prospect is somebody like Guhle or Nylander I don't see Edmonton going for this at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Unless that prospect is somebody like Guhle or Nylander I don't see Edmonton going for this at all. Really don't think you'd have to pay that much for Eberle. I was thinking more along the lines of Asplund or Pu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Really don't think you'd have to pay that much for Eberle. I was thinking more along the lines of Asplund or Pu You're probably right. I see Ennis as a negative value given his recent production vs his contract so that's probably what's skewing it in my mind. Most of us would probably be happy if Vegas took him, although we'd prefer they grab Moulson or Gorges. Ignoring Ennis though it's probably close in value. Girgensons and the second along with a prospect like Pu or Asplund seems about right. The equivalent of three pieces with a 2nd round value (give or take). Edited June 7, 2017 by Drunkard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Really don't think you'd have to pay that much for Eberle. I was thinking more along the lines of Asplund or Pu Agreed, they did not get much in return for Hall. Edmonton is trying to get the right pieces in place after drafting just the "best player" available for so many years. They have such an influx of young players that are ending their ELC that they need to make cap space. If they want Ennis, Girgensons, and a second for Eberle, I think that is pretty fair value to dump a $6 million dollar contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Agreed, they did not get much in return for Hall. Edmonton is trying to get the right pieces in place after drafting just the "best player" available for so many years. They have such an influx of young players that are ending their ELC that they need to make cap space. If they want Ennis, Girgensons, and a second for Eberle, I think that is pretty fair value to dump a $6 million dollar contract. Except for the fact that Eberle produces and Ennis doesn't. Eberle's cap hit is $6 million and for that he scored 51 points last season. The cap hit for Tyler Ennis is $4.6 million for 13 points. On what planet is Eberle a cap dump but acquiring the great Tyler Ennis a good strategy for them? Ennis and Girgensons combine for roughly the same cap hit as Eberle with less production. No way in hell a second round pick is enough to make up the difference. Edited June 7, 2017 by Drunkard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Except for the fact that Eberle produces and Ennis doesn't. Eberle's cap hit is $6 million and for that he scored 51 points last season. The cap hit for Tyler Ennis is $4.6 million for 13 points. On what planet is Eberle a cap dump but acquiring the great Tyler Ennis a good strategy for them? Ennis and Girgensons combine for roughly the same cap hit as Eberle with less production. No way in hell a second round pick is enough to make up the difference. Exactly. Ennis has zero to negative value in trade right now. If you want Eberle, you're giving up a #1 and/or a top prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Exactly. Ennis has zero to negative value in trade right now. If you want Eberle, you're giving up a #1 and/or a top prospect. Yep. Just because Edmonton may deem him expendable does mean they're just going to give him away and it certainly doesn't mean they are going to take our expendables for him. People always seem to assume that the other team will trade a quarter for 3 nickles and a slug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 https://www.nhl.com/player/christopher-tanev-8475690 Hope we stay away from this guy, its like getting Bogo 2.0. He only played 70 games in a season once, just popped his ankle at the end of the season. really should stay away from tanev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Exactly. Ennis has zero to negative value in trade right now. If you want Eberle, you're giving up a #1 and/or a top prospect. Which would be a grievous mistake. Eberle would instantaneously become the most hated player on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Which would be a grievous mistake. Eberle would instantaneously become the most hated player on this team. I think you're probably right. I still want him though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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