That Aud Smell Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 ...and BUF has three 3rds this year, so I could easily see that happening. bazinga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Yeah, I think McGinn is a better player too, but Stewart had more potential because of his size and the fact he scored 28 goals with the Avs when he was a 22 y/o. Min was hoping he'd regain that form playing with better offensive talent than what the Sabres had to offer.... we all know how that worked out. That said, McGinn is older and hasn't scored 20, he's been traded twice now and doesn't have great size or play a strong defensive game. Older than Stewart was when he scored 28 goals or Older than Stewart now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Older than Stewart was when he scored 28 goals or Older than Stewart now? correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 correct Yes, to the first and no to the second. Jamie McGinn is a year younger than Chris Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) McGinn could fetch a first if Toronto, Columbus and Buffalo are the only sellers. If the Jets don't close the gap by the deadline they could be another seller and have Andrew Ladd available as a rental. Ladd, would probably be my top guy in the Free Agent market for the Sabres come July (Assuming we aren't in on Stamkos) but at 30 years old I doubt GMTM would have much interest in offering a 4 or 5 year deal. Which goes back to my point that the Sabres would be much better off staying in the bottom 3 to 5 and drafting a High End Winger or LHD cause they aren't available in the Free Agent market. Edited January 21, 2016 by Crusader1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 McGinn can fetch a first Would you give up a 1st for Bickell? McGinn is just fortunate that we needed him in the top 6. Bickells contract not withstanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Would you give up a 1st for Bickell? McGinn is just fortunate that we needed him in the top 6. Bickells contract not withstanding But it doesn't work that way... If Bickell had McGinn's contract he might be worth it to a playoff team thanks to his amazing playoffs in 2013. Supply is low, Demand is high; thus making McGinn worth more than Stewart was last year. Also remember Stewart was originally able to fetch a 2nd + Spooner from Boston but GMTM gambled he could get more for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 But the converse is also true. If a team is willing to take that contract, they may have to give up a 5th. They are the same player. And there will be plenty of supply available post ASG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 McGinn is being set up for a good opportunity. Let's play hypothesis time. McGinn was a throw-in to equal the ROR trade but GMTM does not want him GMTM and DD boost his value by playing him top line minutes and increasing his scoring. - McGinn value gets Sabres better trade value. - McGinn gets a shot at the playoffs. - McGinn contract value in the off-season goes up. - GMTM and DD get points with players who see they are willing to do little things for players that have big value. Not bad... Either way.. I've always been a fan of McGinn so I want him here.. but I accept a trade at the deadline with the hope that he comes back. If you love someone... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Either way.. I've always been a fan of McGinn so I want him here.. but I accept a trade at the deadline with the hope that he comes back. If you love someone... :) ...tie them up and lock them in the basement? :unsure: Am I not doing this right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 ...tie them up and lock them in the basement? :unsure: Am I not doing this right?? This is how it is supposed to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 ...tie them up and lock them in the basement? :unsure: Am I not doing this right?? :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 It hasn't been a tank to this point,... but it will be soon. ...and that's how a real tank is done, not the bullshitt that we've been subjected to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I find it humorous that every time we lose I see this thread at the top of the page. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 yup i was thinking that too tank back on was getting a little concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 There have been some comparisons between Chicago's First Year Post Sucking and the Sabres, in which Hawks finished with 88 Points, while the Sabres are on pace of 73. The season prior to drafting Kane, the Hawks finished with 71 points good for 27th and won the lottery. They improved by 17 points. If the Sabres finish around 73 points, they would be approximately the same number of points in improvement. Now if the Sabres can show the same improvements in winning The Cup, we will be in business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 There have been some comparisons between Chicago's First Year Post Sucking and the Sabres, in which Hawks finished with 88 Points, while the Sabres are on pace of 73. The season prior to drafting Kane, the Hawks finished with 71 points good for 27th and won the lottery. They improved by 17 points. If the Sabres finish around 73 points, they would be approximately the same number of points in improvement. Now if the Sabres can show the same improvements in winning The Cup, we will be in business Or, we win the lottery this year? Those two point totals are remarkably similar.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Or, we win the lottery this year? Those two point totals are remarkably similar.... Let's not get too crazy here.. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) ###### it then. I'm in. But if I'm in now and we don't become superteam next year I want a lot of people fired. Edited January 23, 2016 by beerme1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 ###### it then. I'm in. But if I'm in now and we don't become superteam next year I want a lot of people fired. Shhhhh it's a secret club this year. I'll pm you the password. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 We don't want a "tank" this year, because as is being demonstrated this year, it's difficult to improve by a ton of points in the standings from one year to just the next one. If we finish with 65 points, we aren't going to make the playoffs next year, even if we luck out and win the lottery. The more points we get this year, the better the chance for next year. No way Murray actively tanks the rest of the season. Rebuilding moves, sure, such as trading UFAs, but nothing beyond that. And I don't think he'll be getting rid of UFAs just for the sake of dumping them, like what seemed to happen at last year's deadline, when we were in active tank mode. If we get lucky and win one of the 3 spots up for grabs in the lottery, great. That would be a nice bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Ted Black once said it takes a million little things to win. So it must take a million little things to lose. Tinfoil time! Moulson on the top line. Gionta's minutes and usage. Bizarre, hopeless challenges. Ramrodding Lehner into the lineup when the team was heating up. (Hell, even playing Lehner again last night was tank-y, despite how well he ended up playing.) Enjoy... Next year, though. Gloves are off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Ted Black once said it takes a million little things to win. So it must take a million little things to lose. Tinfoil time! Moulson on the top line. Gionta's minutes and usage. Bizarre, hopeless challenges. Ramrodding Lehner into the lineup when the team was heating up. (Hell, even playing Lehner again last night was tank-y, despite how well he ended up playing.) Enjoy... Next year, though. Gloves are off! why not tell us what you would have done? who would you have put on the top 6 to replace Reinhart? here are your choices - Gionta 5 goals, Moulson 4 goals, Foligno 3 goals, Larsson 1 goal., Maybe another call up from Roch? the team has scored 2 goals in the last 2 games - are saying that because they put in Lehner in the net over Johnson they forgot how to score? We don't want a "tank" this year, because as is being demonstrated this year, it's difficult to improve by a ton of points in the standings from one year to just the next one. If we finish with 65 points, we aren't going to make the playoffs next year, even if we luck out and win the lottery. The more points we get this year, the better the chance for next year. the Sabres would have to go 12-22 to only reach 65 points and all loses would have to be in Regulation. I don't see them being that bad. Even if they do only reach 65 - why the blanket statement that it means they wont make playoffs in following season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintwestwood Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Does anyone else think based on Lehner's play the last two games we would have more wins if he didn't get hurt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I find it humorous that every time we lose I see this thread at the top of the page. That is all. I think the fact the Sabres are on a pace to squeak out a paltry 70 points this season, AND have now sagged to 29th place in the league provides sufficient stimulus for these sorts of topics. As Randall Flagg has pointed out too, the Sabres losing streaks are longer than their winning streaks. I wanted to see a bounce back from that tough loss to the Avalanche, but they looked lifeless at the end of the 2nd and all throughout the 3rd (2 shots on goal I think in the ENTIRE 3rd period). They had a good stretch there where they beat the Capitals and the Coyotes, but now it's like all the air has gone out of the balloon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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