qwksndmonster Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 What I'm saying is he shouldn't be. Nor should Flynn.Eleven-style there's already too many teams in the league, huh? I agree, but I don't think it's relevant to bring that up when we're talking about what currently constitutes an NHLer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 This is what I was referring to. Am I drawing the incorrect inference here? Apologize if it's not clear but it seems very clear to me that I'm talking about Foligno and not 4th liners in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I would be concerned more about the overeating problem. Could be signs of depression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I would be concerned more about the overeating problem. Could be signs of depression. Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 5 way tie for 29th? fasten your seatbelets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Looking for a Jets win tonight and a 3 pointer between Flames & Blue Jackets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Looking for a Jets win tonight and a 3 pointer between Flames & Blue Jackets!Oh, you're a brave man, Crusader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 The Sabres aren`t going to make the play-offs, so why not finish as low in the standings as possible. I don`t cheer against them as I want them to end with around 75 points but if that means they end up in 3rd last - I say its a win win situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Gotta learn how to win, or we end up like Edmonton. Learning how to win is a huge part of success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I hope all of the bottom teams win, us included. Everyone else can suck again next year, but the more points we can get while finishing low the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 OK, make that a 6 way tie for 30th. Who wants a top 3 pick?! Anyone? Anyone?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Tanks for the memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Gotta learn how to win, or we end up like Edmonton. Learning how to win is a huge part of success you know why this team almost has the same amounts of points the 14/15 Sabres did in the entire season? better players - has nothing to do with learning how to win. I think the team will be better off down the road by adding a high end talent found at the top of the draft than winning a couple of more games this season. OK, make that a 6 way tie for 30th. Who wants a top 3 pick?! Anyone? Anyone?! I think its Toronto, Columbus and then I have no idea. Not Edmonton is all I will guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 OK, make that a 6 way tie for 30th. Who wants a top 3 pick?! Anyone? Anyone?! I sadly would like a top 3 pick but we're too good, not gonna happen. you know why this team almost has the same amounts of points the 14/15 Sabres did in the entire season? better players - has nothing to do with learning how to win. I think the team will be better off down the road by adding a high end talent found at the top of the draft than winning a couple of more games this season. I think its Toronto, Columbus and then I have no idea. Not Edmonton is all I will guess. Agreed. We're down this low because of significant injuries, dd taking forever to find line combos that work and we have two top 6 forwards and two dmen that are essentially rookies. We will never be this low in the standings for years. May as well get one more core piece while we're here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 OK, make that a 6 way tie for 30th. Who wants a top 3 pick?! Anyone? Anyone?! I do, I just don't want to tank to do it. And in all honesty, we don't have much to sell off this year anyway. C'mon ping pong balls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I do, I just don't want to tank to do it. And in all honesty, we don't have much to sell off this year anyway. C'mon ping pong balls! Tanking on a micro level can imply a lot more than selling off assets, right? Injured players who could return could be put on the shelf. Coach can make curious player usage and shootout personnel decisions. AHL callups to see what you've got. Tabasco in the jock straps. And so on. Gotta learn how to win, or we end up like Edmonton. Learning how to win is a huge part of success I didn't hear Schopp on this, but I imagine he doesn't believe in "learning how to win." Or that winning at the end of one season "carries over" to the next. He doesn't believe in momentum inside of games, either. Hell, he doesn't believe goaltending matters that much. He's said the differences in save percentages among the goalies just don't add up to that much. Quite the iconoclast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 The team is on pace for 74 points. That's a 20-point improvement. They're learning how to win while still locking in a top pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 The team is on pace for 74 points. That's a 20-point improvement. They're learning how to win while still locking in a top pick.Which is why I can't complain. I still want them to win though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Which is why I can't complain. I still want them to win though I'm still completely neutral to results. I've seen a ton of improvements and seen the new guys do enough to satisfy me. I expect that to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Tanking on a micro level can imply a lot more than selling off assets, right? Injured players who could return could be put on the shelf. Coach can make curious player usage and shootout personnel decisions. AHL callups to see what you've got. Tabasco in the jock straps. And so on. Like letting Lehner play? Sorry, had to :p And yea, this stuff can matter. But honestly Bylsma was doing the same kind of stuff in Pittsburgh. I just think it's what he does. With injuries, how do we determine tanking versus being smart? With what we know about concussions today, and having witnessed Connolly first hand, I can't imagine arguing being cautious with Ennis is any kind of stealth tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'm still completely neutral to results. I've seen a ton of improvements and seen the new guys do enough to satisfy me. I expect that to continue.I'm satisfied, but after thinking in it I have to go back and disagree that they're learning how to win. This isn't the same roster at all, so the leap in points can't affect their mentality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Players know how to win. These guys have all won throughout their hockey careers. This concept of "learning to win" seems a bit far-fetched to me. I guess it's me. Some guys know how to win better but that's life. The team is remarkably better as they should be and they have holes to fill. I have no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Players know how to win. These guys have all won throughout their hockey careers. This concept of "learning to win" seems a bit far-fetched to me. I guess it's me. This is where I'm at. I think players learn to win the moment the team has enough talent to win. How many really talented teams, in any sport, aren't competitive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'm satisfied, but after thinking in it I have to go back and disagree that they're learning how to win. This isn't the same roster at all, so the leap in points can't affect their mentality Very good, son. You saved me the keystrokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Players know how to win. These guys have all won throughout their hockey careers. This concept of "learning to win" seems a bit far-fetched to me. I guess it's me. Some guys know how to win better but that's life. The team is remarkably better as they should be and they have holes to fill. I have no complaints. Also good. I'm satisfied, but after thinking in it I have to go back and disagree that they're learning how to win. This isn't the same roster at all, so the leap in points can't affect their mentality I'm sure this team realizes how absolutely atrocious this team has been for two years and how important a 20-point improvement is. I'm also sure they're all disappointed they're not much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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