Taro T Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Is the rule that no deals can be discussed, or no deals can be agreed? Day after the Entry Draft (but not later than June 25) until June 30 - "Unrestricted Free Agents may meet and interview with potential new Clubs, but may not sign new SPCs until the opening of RFA/UFA Signing Period" Later of June 26 or Tuesday after Entry Draft - "Restricted Free Agents may make contact with Clubs (including their own) regarding potential interest, but may not sign new SPCs or Offer Sheets until the opening of RFA/UFA Signing Period" Unless somebody else has something explicitly stating players / agents can't talk money / terms, that sure does look like they can discuss those; just deals can't be signed until July 1. It's completely illogical to let teams talk to players but not discuss money. " Vladimir we REALLY REALLY like you but we can't tell you just how much until Wednesday." :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 General parameters can be discussed. Term, money, clauses. Just can't promise anything or sign anything guaranteeing those "general parameters". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 General parameters can be discussed. Term, money, clauses. Just can't promise anything or sign anything guaranteeing those "general parameters". Looking it up this is right. But the expectation is so lame. They can't talk "specific numbers." By General they mean GENERAL. You can't say that you're offering $6.5M over 6 years. You could say that you're willing to go above $6M over a long-term deal. That's my understanding at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Looking it up this is right. But the expectation is so lame. They can't talk "specific numbers." By General they mean GENERAL. You can't say that you're offering $6.5M over 6 years. You could say that you're willing to go above $6M over a long-term deal. That's my understanding at least. Where are you getting that? That isn't stated in the CBA, nor is it what Chz just stated. Everything that I've seen or heard (with the exception of your posts) indicate that you can talk, you just can't consumate a deal. If you would, please link a source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Where are you getting that? That isn't stated in the CBA, nor is it what Chz just stated. Everything that I've seen or heard (with the exception of your posts) indicate that you can talk, you just can't consumate a deal. If you would, please link a source. that's what it looks like from the one previous post. You can talk, but you can't agree to or sign anything. Basically it's time to allow players and teams to talk and work out offers and give them time to think things over instead of rushing everything on day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Looking it up this is right. But the expectation is so lame. They can't talk "specific numbers." By General they mean GENERAL. You can't say that you're offering $6.5M over 6 years. You could say that you're willing to go above $6M over a long-term deal. That's my understanding at least. You just add the word "around" to your statement. Whether it's from the player "I'm looking at getting around 5 mill for 5 years" or from the club "We are looking at giving you around 5 mill for 5 years". Either is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) You just add the word "around" to your statement. Whether it's from the player "I'm looking at getting around 5 mill for 5 years" or from the club "We are looking at giving you around 5 mill for 5 years". Either is ok. I think this is look chz gives most of my posts lol Edited June 25, 2015 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 I think this is look chz gives most of my posts lol I always saw it more like: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Josh Yohe, one of Pittsburgh's leading writers, says that it doesn't seem likely that Paul Martin or Christian Ehrhoff will be back in Pittsburgh. http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/06/01/exclusive-letang-dupius-expected-back/ Martin likely gets a one or two year deal somewhere between $3-4M per. Ehrhoff will be interesting to watch. He was strong defensively for Pittsburgh but the injury and length of recovery has to be cause for concern. At least one team shows confidence that he'll be healthy and able to play in their top four, right? Joel Ward wants to return to Washington, and Washington is interested in bringing him back... But the comments by their GM don't seem to show that he's a priority for them: http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/was150527.html Ward would be an awesome addition for Sabres imo if DC doesn't resign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 This is just a reminder that the Winter Olympics are too, too far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 LeBrun: Avalanche and Carl Soderberg fairly close to a contract. Could get done Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 I would still like Beauchemin or Oduya. Not sure at this point in their careers if they have any interest in coming to Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Where are you getting that? That isn't stated in the CBA, nor is it what Chz just stated. Everything that I've seen or heard (with the exception of your posts) indicate that you can talk, you just can't consumate a deal. If you would, please link a source. It seems, from this article, that the CBA was vague as to what they intended, so last year they wrote an advisory. That advisory uses the 'general' term that Chz states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 No. Women's sports talk is restricted to curling only. I think we should talk about this. Or this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 It seems, from this article, that the CBA was vague as to what they intended, so last year they wrote an advisory. That advisory uses the 'general' term that Chz states. And that article states exactly what Chz said. At the end of the discussion, both player and team know what their deal will look like come July 1, if they end up deciding to sign there. It's not like the player doesn't know what the offer will be, which Hoss is claiming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 @CraigCustance: Carl Soderberg deal with Colorado is done. 5 years, 4.75 AAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC 2m2 minutes ago Hearing Mike Fisher and NASH closing on a two-year deal. AAV $4.4M Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 2m2 minutes ago Mike Fisher has re-signed with the Nashville Predators, two years, $8.8 million. $4.8 M in Year 1, $4 M in Year 2; full NTC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Kris Baker @SabresProspects 51s52 seconds ago U-Minn D Mike Reilly goes Wild. This was expected. His pop is a minority investor with the Wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejeanneret Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Worse deal of the year...signing Soderberg to a $5 million per season contract. He'll be 30 when the season starts and he averaged a point ever two games. We have a bunch of those guys on our team already. Not sure what Avs were thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Worse deal of the year...signing Soderberg to a $5 million per season contract. He'll be 30 when the season starts and he averaged a point ever two games. We have a bunch of those guys on our team already. Not sure what Avs were thinking. For whatever reason, it makes me think of when they signed PA Parenteau a few years back. We'll see how quickly he winds up being the guy that we hear about them wanting to dump each season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 So remind me again what UFA and RFA D are out there? Ah any of Mike Green, Johnny Oduya and, Paul Martin would be nice. As for wingers I am hoping for Joel Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 SICK-AIR-UH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 SICK-AIR-UH I would take Reggie back no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 The first round has been unbelievable. GMTM has to have a plan for free agency. The uncertainty is driving me nuts. GO SABRES ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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