Hoss Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) The only right wingers better than Tarasenko right now are Kane, Ovechkin and Perry. I would love to land him. I would be willing to make a big play for him, but I don't think they will (which is fine). He just put up 37-36 in 76 games as a 23 year old. Awesome player. Other players I'm pretty much only interested in going up to $3.6M. I don't know if there's even any players we could pry away at that number, but I would like to find out. I don't think you're getting Saad at that number. Maybe Silfverberg. Most likely Martin Jones. If we feel like getting local kid Shane Prince, a GMTM player, it probably wouldn't take much. Edited June 1, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) I could also see Tim Murray doing the opposite of offer sheeting... He may view this offseason as a chance to nearly stand pat aside from a two or three moves while he gets a better look at what we already have. If that's the case then he might want to try and build a good relationship with GMs around the league. Instead of forcing them to pay more than they want to for their own he may call up Chicago and help them get rid of a Bryan Bickell. There's rumors floating that Dustin Brown may be moved and that could be a possibility (although most will realize how much they don't want him when they realize he's 30 and has 7 years left near $6M). Pick up a quality vet or two that has been with a winning organization while building a positive relationship with those teams. Not burning any bridges. The scorched earth policy may have left a bad taste in the minds of some... Could repair that. Names to watch on that front: Bryan Bickell (LW - CHI) 2 years, $8M left Kris Versteeg (LW - CHI) 1 year, $2.2M left RJ Umberger (C/LW - PHI) 2 years, $9M left Vinny Lecavalier (C/LW - PHI) 3 years, $13.5M left Matt Read (RW - PHI) 3 years, $10.9M left Chris Kelly (C/RW - BOS) 1 year, $3M left Dustin Brown (RW - LA) 7 years, $41M left Mike Richards (C/RW - LA) 5 years, $28.75M left Chris Kunitz (LW - PIT) 2 years, $7.7M Pascal Dupuis (RW - PIT) 2 years, $7.5M One name that's young and might be an option is Andrew Shaw. He's an RFA next year. They will have to let go at least one guy they don't want to, and he might be a candidate. Man that would be a dream. Edited June 1, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'll just come out and say it right now like I do every year. They won't be signing anyone to any offer sheets. Maybe someday someone changes it, but it's just not the least bit common at all in this league. So until that change actually happens, I continue to expect the league to operate as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'll just come out and say it right now like I do every year. They won't be signing anyone to any offer sheets. Maybe someday someone changes it, but it's just not the least bit common at all in this league. So until that change actually happens, I continue to expect the league to operate as normal. There have been 8 since 2006. Almost one per year. Decent chance, with this class, there's at least one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) I think offer sheets would be far more common if the compensation was lower. I know everyone likes to joke about the old boys club and an unwritten rule or whatever, but I think the real reason they're rare is the compensation. Edited June 1, 2015 by TrueBluePhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'll just come out and say it right now like I do every year. They won't be signing anyone to any offer sheets. Maybe someday someone changes it, but it's just not the least bit common at all in this league. So until that change actually happens, I continue to expect the league to operate as normal.Probably not, but could you imagine how good they'd be w/ a 1st line of Kane - Eichel - Tarasenko? That gives Moulson - (pick a young C) - Ennis a truckload of room. (I'd be good w/ Saad or Silfverberg as well. ;)) Add Reggie, a goalie, & possibly Ehrhoff and I'd be willing to risk the Matthews lotto ticket. The extra bonus is, they'd only be giving up draft picks and $'s to make those moves. Everybody else is still around if some other top line talent turns up available. And 2016-'17 couldn't get here fast enough. 2015-'16 to grow & gel and then have it come together the next year. They are at a point now where any trades they make have to be for young top line talent. This could, for the 1st time since '11, be a squad that is truly fun to watch. Go big or go home. :) (And my guess is still that they bring in a couple of D & a goalie, but can't get the RW they want this off-season.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) I think offer sheets would be far more common if the compensation was lower. I know everyone likes to joke about the old boys club and an unwritten rule or whatever, but I think the real reason they're rare is the compensation. If the compensation was lower teams would be further inclined to match them knowing they're not getting much in return. I do think they should lower the compensation, though. Edited June 1, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Is it true what I read somewhere that Ehrhoff never sold his home in Buffalo? He didn't seem to leave here on good terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 There have been 8 since 2006. Almost one per year. Decent chance, with this class, there's at least one. 5 of those were in the first 3 years, so that one per year stat is skewed. Of those remaining 3, they're different scenarios: -Ryan O'Reilly in 2013: A unique case that will be tough to duplicate, with O'Reilly holding out -Shea Weber in 2012: Another unique case where a truly unique player became available, teams typically lock these guys up in advance -Nik Hjalmarsson in 2010: NNow this is the case that most could make an argument for right now, an attempt at poaching a guy from a cap strapped team. Still, we've seen plenty of teams believed to be in cap trouble in recent years and there still doesn't wind up being an offer sheet. Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, the league is going to stick to its typical behavior come July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 If these cap numbers are correct Chicago will be at 64million next year before signing any of their players on expiring deals. Can anyone verify that? (I miss capgeek because I don't trust these other sources as well). 64million with a 71million cap and the need to sign at least 2-3 defenders and by my count 4 forwards, I would think Brandon Saad really is a great target for an offer sheet. Although maybe you might want to approach Chicago differently. Say you will give them x, y, z for Saad if he signs with you (I know he is an RFA but I mean he signs your deal not an offer sheet after you trade for him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) If these cap numbers are correct Chicago will be at 64million next year before signing any of their players on expiring deals. Can anyone verify that? (I miss capgeek because I don't trust these other sources as well). 64million with a 71million cap and the need to sign at least 2-3 defenders and by my count 4 forwards, I would think Brandon Saad really is a great target for an offer sheet. Although maybe you might want to approach Chicago differently. Say you will give them x, y, z for Saad if he signs with you (I know he is an RFA but I mean he signs your deal not an offer sheet after you trade for him) I'm with Shrader on this, I don't see any of this happening. Saad is a nice player but not $9 mill nice, maybe 5-6 mill. What's the compensation on that? I think the Blackhawks match whatever you throw at them and move other contracts to compensate. Edit: compensation would be a 1st and a 3rd. There is a very good chance this is a bottom five team next season. Do you want to risk a top 5 pick for Saad? Maybe... It's worth thinking about I guess. I think Sharp and Bickell are the targets that are feasible and could be had for pennies on the dollar given their cap situation. Edited June 2, 2015 by inkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I'm with Shrader on this, I don't see any of this happening. Saad is a nice player but not $9 mill nice, maybe 5-6 mill. What's the compensation on that? I think the Blackhawks match whatever you throw at them and move other contracts to compensate. Edit: compensation would be a 1st and a 3rd. There is a very good chance this is a bottom five team next season. Do you want to risk a top 5 pick for Saad? Maybe... It's worth thinking about I guess. I think Sharp and Bickell are the targets that are feasible and could be had for pennies on the dollar given their cap situation. Sharp has a NMC but I was not saying pay Saad 9mil. 5-6million would be unmatchable for Chicago without moving out someone else. Just something to keep in mind. I also do not think Murray will do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I would pay Saad over O'Reily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 If anything, wouldn't we be looking for defensemen in free agency? Why add another forward when we need to make room for the young players we have on the roster now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 If anything, wouldn't we be looking for defensemen in free agency? Why add another forward when we need to make room for the young players we have on the roster nowi think it's the opposite. We need one vet rhd, then call Pysk up. We have a ton of room for our forwards, the bottom two lines last year were almost entirely expendable/just bodies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 i think it's the opposite. We need one vet rhd, then call Pysk up. We have a ton of room for our forwards, the bottom two lines last year were almost entirely expendable/just bodies We need a LHD. On the right we've got aristo, Bogosian and Pysyk. On the left we've got Gorges, Zadorov and Weber. We COULD roll with that as a top six if we're not interested in much progress, but if we add it should be on the left. Gorges is a question mark after his injury, Zadorov is inconsistent still and Weber probably shouldn't be getting consistent minutes in your top six. McCabe is left handed so he could be in the mix there, but another reliable vet for one or two years would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I would pay Saad over O'Reily. Curious as to your reasoning on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Curious as to your reasoning on this.I'll explain more when I get out of work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I'll explain more when I get out of work When will that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 When will that be?It will be when then is now. So soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 It will be when then is now. So soon How soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 A goalie to consider is Anders Nilsson.... http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=120937 ..he put up stellar numbers in the KHL last season, and stands 6'05" 220lbs. However his rights belong to the Blackhawks (as part of the Nick Leddy trade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 How soon? :flirt: Now! Just got home, just a minute here....I'll post it in the O'Reily thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 :flirt: Now! Just got home, just a minute here....I'll post it in the O'Reily thread. Awwww, this was a rare time where I was actually hoping for a youtube clip. Quoting cannot do that scene justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Awwww, this was a rare time where I was actually hoping for a youtube clip. Quoting cannot do that scene justice. One of the best mel brooke's scenes ever IMO. This and a few from Young Frankenstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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