woods-racer Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Not interested. I would be a vocal advocate for him QBing the Jets or Fins. Can we get that crappy bearded guy back if Bradford goes to the Jets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Murph, in my opinion, is a shining example of what happens if you stay in one place and play it safe long enough that people will start calling you a legend. Well stated. His PBP is so lackluster, with the singular exception of that Drayton Florence touchdown from a few years back. His color commentary was better. Agreed. He is a nice man, and a capable pro in many respects. But being the radio voice of an NFL franchise is beyond his range. No shame in that. The tendency that drives me the most nuts -- in the biggest moments, what he almost always offers is this: "TOUCHDOWN! TOUCHDOWN! TOUCHDOWN!" Maybe I group Murph with Rob Ray. Two guys whom I like a lot, but am concerned they're not being utilized in the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Agreed. He is a nice man, and a capable pro in many respects. But being the radio voice of an NFL franchise is beyond his range. No shame in that. The tendency that drives me the most nuts -- in the biggest moments, what he almost always offers is this: "TOUCHDOWN! TOUCHDOWN! TOUCHDOWN!" Maybe I group Murph with Rob Ray. Two guys whom I like a lot, but am concerned they're not being utilized in the right way. Well, nobody can accuse him of Dunleavying the scoring plays ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Agreed. He is a nice man, and a capable pro in many respects. But being the radio voice of an NFL franchise is beyond his range. No shame in that. The tendency that drives me the most nuts -- in the biggest moments, what he almost always offers is this: "TOUCHDOWN! TOUCHDOWN! TOUCHDOWN!" Maybe I group Murph with Rob Ray. Two guys whom I like a lot, but am concerned they're not being utilized in the right way. REALLY liked him as Miller's color guy. Not overly impressed w/ him as PbP. Like Kelso as color now, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) Pegula announces Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan will return next season. "As our first full season as owners of the Buffall Bills draws to a close, management, coaches, players and fans all feel that our expectations were not met. Kim, Russ and I look forward to working and collaborating with Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan in forming a winning future for the organization. Our management team and coaching staff are very capable and work well together. This stable foundation is necessary to achieve long term success in the NFL." Edited December 30, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Pegula announces Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan will return next season. Not sure why people thought and wanted other wise. I thought you made a pretty solid case as to why they should and will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Pegula announces Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan will return next season. Where did you hear this from? Was it on the radio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Where did you hear this from? Was it on the radio? Team announced it on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Team announced it on Twitter. Ah that newfangled twitter. I'll get on that as soon as I figure out how to de-activate my MySpace account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Sorry, freeman. At least they're not announcing a contract extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Not sure why people thought and wanted other wise. I thought you made a pretty solid case as to why they should and will be back. I think continuity is extremely important in sports, and especially in football where schemes and familiarity play a crucial role in success. Even if Rex isn't the best coach (I think he is a good defensive coach), maintaining continuity in the type of players you need, playbook terms and such allow the players to play fast and react rather than think throughout the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I think continuity is extremely important in sports, and especially in football where schemes and familiarity play a crucial role in success. Even if Rex isn't the best coach (I think he is a good defensive coach), maintaining continuity in the type of players you need, playbook terms and such allow the players to play fast and react rather than think throughout the game. Rex certainly was a good defensive coach. The evidence indicates that he's not anymore. Did you see the defense this year? That's going to be the refrain for your 2016 Buffalo Bills: We just need continuity! (It's already happening) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Rex certainly was a good defensive coach. The evidence indicates that he's not anymore. Did you see the defense this year? That's going to be the refrain for your 2016 Buffalo Bills: We just need continuity! (It's already happening) I'm willing to bank on the track record of Rex Ryan's teams over the past 10+ years. I know his defense ranks have been weakest in the last three years, but didn't forget everything about coaching defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 If the defense rebounds next year, do I get the greatest "I told you so" in modern Sabrespace history? It has to be up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Pegula announces Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan will return next season. Not sure why people thought and wanted other wise. I thought you made a pretty solid case as to why they should and will be back. What have they done wrong? :devil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'm willing to bank on the track record of Rex Ryan's teams over the past 10+ years. I know his defense ranks have been weakest in the last three years, but didn't forget everything about coaching defense. If the defense rebounds next year, do I get the greatest "I told you so" in modern Sabrespace history? It has to be up there. Yes, but you also need to be similarly beaten down if the defense still sucks. Where is your proof? A supposed "mastermind" defensive coach. Here's some stats for you comparing the Bills defense from 2014 to 2015: Total defense from #4 in NFL to #20 DVOA (because I know you like stats) from #2 to #29(!!!) Team sacks from 54 to 20 Team interceptions from 19 to 14 Forced fumbles/fumble recoveries from 15/11 to 9/8 Marcel Dareus from 10 sacks to 2 Mario Williams from 42 tackles and 14.5 sacks to 17(!!!) and 4 A supposed defensive genius does not produce this pitifully for even one season with essentially the same personnel and adding Darby. Based on the historical trend that Hoss posted above, it's likely to continue. Maybe the rest of the NFL has learned how to beat Rex's defenses and/or offenses have simply passed him by and he's not a good defensive coach anymore? It's happened to many others over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Yes, but you also need to be similarly beaten down if the defense still sucks. Where is your proof? A supposed "mastermind" defensive coach. Here's some stats for you comparing the Bills defense from 2014 to 2015: Total defense from #4 in NFL to #20 DVOA (because I know you like stats) from #2 to #29(!!!) Team sacks from 54 to 20 Team interceptions from 19 to 14 Forced fumbles/fumble recoveries from 15/11 to 9/8 Marcel Dareus from 10 sacks to 2 Mario Williams from 42 tackles and 14.5 sacks to 17(!!!) and 4 A supposed defensive genius does not produce this pitifully for even one season with essentially the same personnel and adding Darby. Based on the historical trend that Hoss posted above, it's likely to continue. Maybe the rest of the NFL has learned how to beat Rex's defenses and/or offenses have simply passed him by and he's not a good defensive coach anymore? It's happened to many others over the years. If the Bills defense is bad once again next season, I will happily and readily admit that what Rex likes to do doesn't work anymore. But I will be very, very surprised if he doesn't field a top-12 or so defense. I think this calls for an avatar bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 If the Bills defense is bad once again next season, I will happily and readily admit that what Rex likes to do doesn't work anymore. But I will be very, very surprised f he doesn't field a top-12 or so defense. I think this calls for an avatar bet. Top 12? Measured by what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 If the defense rebounds next year, do I get the greatest "I told you so" in modern Sabrespace history? It has to be up there. I hold that spot for calling Rick's unretirement. But you can be number two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Pegula announces Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan will return next season. "As our first full season as owners of the Buffall Bills draws to a close, management, coaches, players and fans all feel that our expectations were not met. Kim, Russ and I look forward to working and collaborating with Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan in forming a winning future for the organization. Our management team and coaching staff are very capable and work well together. This stable foundation is necessary to achieve long term success in the NFL." Kim, Russ and I? Am I mixing up teams? Didn't Brandon emphatically say he wouldn't be involved in the football side of things? Just how closely will this mirror the Sabres' story? So far, it's spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Kim, Russ and I? Am I mixing up teams? Didn't Brandon emphatically say he wouldn't be involved in the football side of things? Just how closely will this mirror the Sabres' story? So far, it's spot on. I'm not quite where you are on the Pegulas, but I actually said allowed when I read the statement that it was weird. It's also weird to throw Russ in with... your wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'm not quite where you are on the Pegulas, but I actually said allowed when I read the statement that it was weird. It's also weird to throw Russ in with... your wife. WGR was actually talking about this. Russ is considered a Partner, same as the Pegulas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Team announced it on Twitter. I've figured Twitter out -- Someone tweets, and if it's interesting to me, Hoss posts it on SabreSpace. Grateful! If the Bills defense is bad once again next season, I will happily and readily admit that what Rex likes to do doesn't work anymore. But I will be very, very surprised if he doesn't field a top-12 or so defense. I think this calls for an avatar bet. You need to sandbag if you're looking for bets. You've been to convincing for anyone to take the other side. Try this ... "Oh, I dunno, guys ... Rex may be out of his depth .... I don't have a good feeling about next year .... I MIGHT wager, as dumb as that would be ....". After ROR, you'll not be able to offer a proposition again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 I think Buffalo is going to get a PP out of that That could have been a problem is it was anyone else but Laich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Rex is a lousy coach. EJ is a lousy QB.Lousy organizations waste time on untalented people. Thanks Terry for continuing the Buffalo Bills rich tradition. I'm not sure of it yet but its looking like while the skins have little Danny we have little Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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