Assquatch Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I feel myself getting uncharacteristically (and, well, virtually) truculent about criticism/mocking of the decision to go with Vanek and Ott as captains. It must mean the season's about to begin. By Thanksgiving,*** I'll probably be far less excitable about such matters. *** Canadian or American - I'm not sure. Yep. Drop the damn puck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 As stated earlier, I'd've preferred just Ott getting the C and the other 2 w/ the A's. But if being a 1/2 time captain gets Tommy to sign on the dotted line, I'm good w/ it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 If it's the same three either way, I don't think it makes a damn bit of difference. And frankly, unless the letter wearers are clearly the wrong choice (Stafford, Roy, etc.) I don't think it makes much of a difference who even has them. It's all about the totality of the locker room IMO. Do you think that is true with Pittsburgh? Or in Detroit? Borrowed a new user photo from that 2nd link. That avatar is great... :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Serious question: can anyone present a convincing argument why it matters? 1. All the other teams get to have just one captain. 2. Demonstrates lack of decisiveness on the part of the coach. 3. Each co-captain wonders why he wasn't good enough to just be named captain. 4. Disappearing captain voodoo of the Sabres organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) 1. All the other teams get to have just one captain. 2. Demonstrates lack of decisiveness on the part of the coach. 3. Each co-captain wonders why he wasn't good enough to just be named captain. 4. Disappearing captain voodoo of the Sabres organization. 1. What - so, like, we don't fit in when all the NHL franchises are having lunch in the middle school cafeteria? 'S Cool. We can sit with the 2005-2007 Sabres. 2. So choosing 3 to wear letters and making the unconventional choice to elevate two of them to C on a home/away basis is a lack of decisiveness? Gotcha. 3. Speculation. And almost certainly untrue. 4. History will not repeat itself. It won't. One or both will re-sign or , failing that, one or both will be moved for value. Edited October 1, 2013 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Yup, I still like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Did Drury and Briere do the home/away thing? Yeah, I believe so. I think it was every other game. It wasn't consistent. I believe in 2005-06, they went basically every other game, but had specific teams that each always had the "C" against (e.g., Briere vs. Montreal.) In 2006-07, however, I am almost certain that it was road/away during at least the regular season. It's hard to prove, since each took over when the other was out injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHawerchuk10 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'm a little shocked they gave it to Vanek. I expect him yo be gone this time next year. I think we resign Ott for 1 year at the deadline. Vanek is no where near those two other players so shouldn't be mentioned with them. It would also have been nice if he remotely lived up to his contract :( What are your expectations based on his contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 1. All the other teams get to have just one captain. 2. Demonstrates lack of decisiveness on the part of the coach. 3. Each co-captain wonders why he wasn't good enough to just be named captain. 4. Disappearing captain voodoo of the Sabres organization. 1. Arguably the best Sabres team of all time had two captains. 2. This contradicts point #1. Wouldn't an indecisive coach just follow the rest of the league and make a safe choice? 3. Total speculation and you could just as easily say that both guys will be extra motivated to be their best by the presence of the other. 4. The C has nothing to do with their chances of staying. If anything, this is a good move *because* we don't know who is staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Buffalo Sabres @BuffaloSabres WATCH: #Sabres Coach Ron Rolston addresses the media after captaincy announcement http://goo.gl/BbXdGj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Ahaha, Oilers have six alternate captains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'm officially naming myself captain for any outdoor games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Do you think that is true with Pittsburgh? Or in Detroit? Absolutely. If Malkin wears the C for 41 games, do they suddenly lose another 5? If Datsyuk wears the C for 41 games, does Detroit miss the playoffs? I just think it's silly to think the letter on the front of the jersey will cause any material difference in performance, and I have yet to see a real argument as to why it would--most of the objections seem to be preference-based. For example, I think Vanek was disappointed he didn't get the C back when Ruff gave it to Pominville, but he proceeded to have his best season in years. I would even argue that if somebody is so crushed they didn't get sole possession of the C that it does end up affecting them, then they shouldn't have had it in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Absolutely. If Malkin wears the C for 41 games, do they suddenly lose another 5? If Datsyuk wears the C for 41 games, does Detroit miss the playoffs? I just think it's silly to think the letter on the front of the jersey will cause any material difference in performance, and I have yet to see a real argument as to why it would--most of the objections seem to be preference-based. For example, I think Vanek was disappointed he didn't get the C back when Ruff gave it to Pominville, but he proceeded to have his best season in years. I would even argue that if somebody is so crushed they didn't get sole possession of the C that it does end up affecting them, then they shouldn't have had it in the first place. I've seen others suggest this. Where is this coming from? Did he get quoted somewhere or is this fan supposition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Absolutely. If Malkin wears the C for 41 games, do they suddenly lose another 5? If Datsyuk wears the C for 41 games, does Detroit miss the playoffs? I just think it's silly to think the letter on the front of the jersey will cause any material difference in performance, and I have yet to see a real argument as to why it would--most of the objections seem to be preference-based. For example, I think Vanek was disappointed he didn't get the C back when Ruff gave it to Pominville, but he proceeded to have his best season in years. I would even argue that if somebody is so crushed they didn't get sole possession of the C that it does end up affecting them, then they shouldn't have had it in the first place. The year Pommers got it Vanek got 61 points, nothing to write home about. I think Vanek benefitted from the shortened season. Coming off his best season, now a captain, a pending UFA and with little desire to stay here...he holds all the cards for negotiations. I imagine he is asking for 8.5-9 for 8. After all if 65 points can get you $7.1 million, 20 more points and captain has to be good for $1.5 more million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I've seen others suggest this. Where is this coming from? Did he get quoted somewhere or is this fan supposition? Just reading his body language from the video of Ruff making the announcement to the team. Obviously open to interpretation, but he did not seem like a guy jazzed about getting the A. The year Pommers got it Vanek got 61 points, nothing to write home about. I think Vanek benefitted from the shortened season. Coming off his best season, now a captain, a pending UFA and with little desire to stay here...he holds all the cards for negotiations. I imagine he is asking for 8.5-9 for 8. After all if 65 points can get you $7.1 million, 20 more points and captain has to be good for $1.5 more million Yea I had my years off, thought it was the year prior that the announcement was made. Whoops :bag: That said, I stand by my point about it not mattering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm officially naming myself captain for any outdoor games. duly noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm officially naming myself captain for any outdoor games. Welcome back XB. I was hoping you'd resurface in time for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm officially naming myself captain for any outdoor games. I nominate XB for captain for any games played in outer space, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I hear there's ice on Mars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I nominate XB for captain for any games played in outer space, as well. Horrible move. I hear he parties way too hard off the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Horrible move. I hear he parties way too hard off the ice. And I hear he has spicy meals and listens to Public Enemy at high volumes before games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 And I hear he has spicy meals and listens to Public Enemy at high volumes before games. Hey that's my routine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 my joke about the captain dissapearing from the roster is now scaring me :cry: So is it agreed that Stafford should be the next to wear the C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 The captain disappearing act isn't something unexplainable. We're a team that has been in sell mode for a few years. Captains are generally talented and valuable players. Ergo teams would give good offers to acquire them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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