GASabresIUFAN Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) This isn’t going to be a popular opinion but JJP could sit. The forwards playing the least so far are Vinnie, Z, Krebs and JJP. All are playing 12-13 minutes a night. I can see DG giving JJP a game off to get Quinn some PT. We even could get into a rotation of sorts if everyone remains healthy with one of Quinn, JJP, Krebs and Vinnie sitting to keep guys fresh and healthy while still getting consistent PT. Matchups, back to backs and “maintenance days” also playing into the rotation. Edited October 21, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: This isn’t going to be a popular opinion but the forwards playing the least so far are Krebs and JJP. I can see DG giving JJP a game off to get Quinn some PT. We even could get into a rotation of sorts if everyone remains healthy with one of Quinn, JJP, Krebs and Vinnie sitting to keep guys fresh, healthy while still getting consistent PT. Matchups and back to backs also playing into the rotation. You bench JJP for politics you lose any semblance of a merit based coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: You bench JJP for politics you lose any semblance of a merit based coach. “Politics?” What’s political about giving a rookie a day off? TB used to sit Victor Hedman periodically his rookie year to give him a night off as he adjusted to the rigors of the NHL and to coach him up while he watched the game. Sort of live action film study. DG said something similar when he sat Quinn the other day. It’s unlikely JJP sits tomorrow. After all you don’t “F” with a streak, but JJP will almost certainly sit at some point, probably sooner then later. Edited October 21, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 Sit Quinn in Vancouver… Play him in Seattle (sit Olofsson)… and send Quinn to Rochester after the road trip… Like Krebs last season, Quinn can benefit from regular play, work on his game, grow physically, and be available for a call up if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 Quinn has improved drastically every time he has moved up a notch. It has taken him a while to get used to the new league each time though. He won't get used to the new league if he isn't playing in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Quinn doesn’t need to play in the American League to get better. But he does need to play. It could become an issue. It’s not an issue yet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Quinn. We have a winning roster. He sucks right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Asong as JJP is putting up a point per game there's no way you pull him out of the lineup. This is a great problem to have that there's nobody except maybe VO you'd want out of the sabres lineup in place of your hotshot rookie who tore up the AHL last year. In years past wed be forcing a player like him into the lineup. Since we're not using VO on PP1 (which makes zero sense to me), then I have no problem swapping him for Quinn for a game although I doubt DG will do that so soon? Injuries happen, Quinn will get his shot and when it happens he'll be hungry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 I don't mess with a winning line up but isn't it refreshing to be debating sitting a decent player and having an extra player(s) rather than a totally crap line up with few options? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Believer said: Sit Quinn in Vancouver… Play him in Seattle (sit Olofsson)… and send Quinn to Rochester after the road trip… Like Krebs last season, Quinn can benefit from regular play, work on his game, grow physically, and be available for a call up if needed. Quinn doesn't need Rochester. He needs nhl reps 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Okposo, i know everyone loves him now, but kinda invisible so far. But I'm pretty sure it will be Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, klos1963 said: Okposo, i know everyone loves him now, but kinda invisible so far. But I'm pretty sure it will be Quinn I was thinking Krebs, but you make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 4 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Quinn doesn't need Rochester. He needs nhl reps But you can't just play a guy and treat your nhl team as a training ground. Coach wants to play his best roster available to win does he not? At the moment, that's not Quinn. Vinnie has been better - at this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Huckleberry said: I was thinking Krebs, but you make more sense. I'm not against Krebs sitting. I don't think he's very effective yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 13 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: This isn’t going to be a popular opinion but JJP could sit. The forwards playing the least so far are Vinnie, Z, Krebs and JJP. All are playing 12-13 minutes a night. I can see DG giving JJP a game off to get Quinn some PT. We even could get into a rotation of sorts if everyone remains healthy with one of Quinn, JJP, Krebs and Vinnie sitting to keep guys fresh and healthy while still getting consistent PT. Matchups, back to backs and “maintenance days” also playing into the rotation. I can't see DG giving jjp time off unless his play slips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: But you can't just play a guy and treat your nhl team as a training ground. Coach wants to play his best roster available to win does he not? At the moment, that's not Quinn. Vinnie has been better - at this time. It's not Olofsson or Krebs either. Sending a guy who destroyed the AHL to the AHL to learn to play in the NHL is silly. Every coach has players on their team that need NHL reps to get better, so yes for a few it is a training ground and good coaches know that. Also Quinn in Buffalo still practices with NHL players and gets NHL coaching. Sending him down is short sighted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Quinn sits and is sent to AHL after road trip. He needs to play about 20 games to get in the groove and get his scoring touch. Bring him up after Christmas. Sheahan becomes extra forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 I voted Krebs, works hard but could sit one out. I know KO is captain but he has not been effective this season. Girgs has been noticeable on that line but Kyle seems off. Those older legs will get going soon. I don’t want to send Quinn to Rochester, there will be injuries and bad games by some forwards and he will get in soon. He has nothing to learn in the AHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAF Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, sweetlou said: Quinn sits and is sent to AHL after road trip. He needs to play about 20 games to get in the groove and get his scoring touch. Bring him up after Christmas. Sheahan becomes extra forward. Ehhhh idk. Quinn has no more to learn/gain from playing in the AHL. He'll also be taking minutes from the other prospects in Rochester if he's sent down. I'll agree that I don't think it's good for Quinn to sit out for too many consecutive games, but we aren't at that point yet. He can also probably learn a lot from stepping back and watching for a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 I think we will see a rotation of the rookies in and out of the game day lineup. Maybe a veteran or two thrown into the press box depending who is going and who isn't. I think Quinn will sit against Vancouver and Krebs in Seattle. Quinn does need to play more than sit. Sending hin to Rochester really does nothing for his development at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 VO is the choice, Quinn’s First Goal came from VO’s Spot on the PP. Marty Biron laid out a very sound argument on why He should sit using both the eye test and advanced metrics. Brian Duff mentioned He does not have any individual HD Shot Chances either does Krebs, but the latter does have a pass first mentality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 16 hours ago, klos1963 said: Okposo, i know everyone loves him now, but kinda invisible so far. But I'm pretty sure it will be Quinn No way the Sabres bench their newly minted captain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Wrong kid died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 8 hours ago, LGR4GM said: It's not Olofsson or Krebs either. Sending a guy who destroyed the AHL to the AHL to learn to play in the NHL is silly. Every coach has players on their team that need NHL reps to get better, so yes for a few it is a training ground and good coaches know that. Also Quinn in Buffalo still practices with NHL players and gets NHL coaching. Sending him down is short sighted. I understand all that but it's still hard to justify inserting people into the line up if they don't earn it. As a coach you don't want to appear to be favoring one player over another while preaching a work ethic and rewarding good play with ice time. Good hockey culture doesn't work well that way. The whole point of being affiliated with Rochester was the ease of sending players up and down and if the team is now good enough that their are extra players there is nothing wrong with sending them up and down. AHL ice time is better than no ice time. I personally would have Quinn getting all the ice time he could and practicing both places. more coaching, more play. His time will come if he earns it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: I understand all that but it's still hard to justify inserting people into the line up if they don't earn it. As a coach you don't want to appear to be favoring one player over another while preaching a work ethic and rewarding good play with ice time. Good hockey culture doesn't work well that way. The whole point of being affiliated with Rochester was the ease of sending players up and down and if the team is now good enough that their are extra players there is nothing wrong with sending them up and down. AHL ice time is better than no ice time. I personally would have Quinn getting all the ice time he could and practicing both places. more coaching, more play. His time will come if he earns it. What ice time has Krebs earned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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