Sabres Development Camp

[Derrico]

Good to see the Sabres' habit of being comically out of touch has continued post-Brandon.

Right? Man, it's been awhile since I've been this fired up. The teams quality of play over the past few years haven't stopped me from buying tickets but dumb decisions like this get me closer to thinking about it. I'm sure the team starts winning and everyone comes out again but to me this is alienating the die hearts that carry u through tough times. I'm pissed off right now. I let the poor Sabres customer support guy know that too.

 

I'm also keenly aware the sth are also almost all die hearts as well.....

Edited June 18, 2018 by Derrico

[thewookie1]

I get the sense that the reason for the Season Ticket Holder limit on the tournament is to prevent what happened when Eichel was drafted where they almost filled Key Bank Arena. Why they don't host the tournament I'm unsure of, but if the tournament was free for all there's a good chance 6,000 + people would flood the HarborCenter and they'd have to turn people away. I'll be pissed if I can't stream it but I do understand somewhat why they are doing it.

[Thorny]

Casey Mittelstadt has already offered to supply extra seating to any non-season ticket holders wishing to attend. He’ll be shouldering bleacher seating during the tournament in an effort to add a little extra muscle.

[Eleven]

I get the sense that the reason for the Season Ticket Holder limit on the tournament is to prevent what happened when Eichel was drafted where they almost filled Key Bank Arena. Why they don't host the tournament I'm unsure of, but if the tournament was free for all there's a good chance 6,000 + people would flood the HarborCenter and they'd have to turn people away. I'll be pissed if I can't stream it but I do understand somewhat why they are doing it.

 

Then have the tournament in the Arena...

[LGR4GM]

Game will be streamed via sabres.com and facebook.  

[GASabresIUFAN]

This is going to be an exciting D camp.

 

Jbot said Nylander, Mittelstadt, Dahlin and Samuelsson will be there.  I assume Pu, Borgen and all the Fins and Swedes including Davidsson, Olofsson, Asplund, Pilut, Weissbach, UPL, and Oskari will be there.  Will Hickey also be there?  Should be our most talented camp in years.

[Robviously]

This is going to be an exciting D camp.

 

Jbot said Nylander, Mittelstadt, Dahlin and Samuelsson will be there. I assume Pu, Borgen and all the Fins and Swedes including Davidsson, Olofsson, Asplund, Pilut, Weissbach, UPL, and Oskari will be there. Will Hickey also be there? Should be our most talented camp in years.

I think when they made the trade they said Hickey would be there.

[inkman]

This is going to be an exciting D camp.

 

Jbot said Nylander, Mittelstadt, Dahlin and Samuelsson will be there. I assume Pu, Borgen and all the Fins and Swedes including Davidsson, Olofsson, Asplund, Pilut, Weissbach, UPL, and Oskari will be there. Will Hickey also be there? Should be our most talented camp in years.

We were also excited for this DC roster

 

BUFFALO SABRES 2014-15 DEVELOPMENT CAMP ROSTER

FORWARD POS HT WT S BIRTHPLACE BIRTHDATE 2013-14 TEAM GP G A PTS PIM

Armia, Joel RW 6’3” 192 R Pori, Finland May 31, 1993 Rochester (AHL) 54 7 20 27 30

Bailey, Justin RW 6’3” 190 R Buffalo, New York July 1, 1995 Kitchener (OHL) 54 25 18 43 20

Baptiste, Nicholas RW 6’0” 196 R Ottawa, Ontario Aug. 4, 1995 Sudbury (OHL) 65 45 44 89 59

Brown, Christopher C 6’0” 179 R Pontiac, Michigan Feb. 22, 1996 Cranbrook Kingswood (USHS) 31 23 27 50 6

Caggiula, Drake C/LW 5’9” 180 L Pickering, Ontario June 20, 1994 North Dakota (NCHC) 42 11 13 24 52

Carrier, William LW 6’1” 194 L LaSalle, Quebec Dec. 20, 1994 Cape Breton (QMJHL) 39 12 29 41 42

Drummondville (QMJHL) 27 10 14 24 45

Catenacci, Daniel C 5’9” 186 L Richmond Hill, Ontario March 9, 1993 Rochester (AHL) 76 10 10 20 32

Compher, J.T. LW 5’10” 182 L Northbrook, Illinois Oct. 12, 1993 U. of Michigan (Big 10) 35 11 20 31 22

Cornel, Eric C 6’2” 186 R Peterborough, Ontario April 11, 1996 Peterborough (OHL) 68 25 37 62 25

Fasching, Hudson RW 6’2” 213 R Burnsville, Minnesota July 28, 1995 U. of Minnesota (Big 10) 40 14 16 30 22

Girgensons, Zemgus C 6’1” 190 L Riga, Latvia Jan. 5, 1994 Buffalo (NHL) 70 8 14 22 14

Grigorenko, Mikhail C 6’3” 209 L Khabarovsk, Russia May 16, 1994 Quebec (QMJHL) 23 15 24 39 6

Buffalo (NHL) 18 2 1 3 2

Rochester (AHL) 9 0 4 4 0

Jacobs, Colin C 6’1” 204 R Coppell, Texas Jan. 20, 1993 Rochester (AHL) 24 0 2 2 29

Elmira (ECHL) 20 2 3 5 31

Karabacek, Vaclav RW 6’0” 196 R Brandys Nad Labem, Czech Republic May 2, 1996 Gatineau (QMJHL) 65 21 26 47 40

Kea, Justin C 6’4” 210 L Woodville, Ontario Feb. 7, 1994 Saginaw (OHL) 58 22 27 49 97

Rochester (AHL) 1 0 0 0 0

Lemieux, Brendan LW 6’0” 206 L Denver, Colorado March 15, 1996 Barrie (OHL) 65 27 26 53 145

Malone, Sean C 5’11” 186 L Buffalo, New York April 30, 1995 Harvard (ECAC) 31 6 14 20 16

Martin, Jonathon RW 6’2” 212 R Winnipeg, Manitoba Aug. 23, 1995 Kootenay (WHL) 63 10 8 18 105

Olofsson, Victor RW 5’11” 177 L Ornskoldsvik, Sweden July 18, 1995 MODO Jr. (Swe-Jr.) 44 32 21 53 16

MODO (SHL) 11 0 0 0 0

Pecararo, Liam LW 5’11” 164 L Canton, Massachusetts April 6, 1996 Waterloo (USHL) 54 20 41 61 14

Reinhart, Sam C 6’1” 185 R North Vancouver, British Columbia Nov. 6, 1995 Kootenay (WHL) 60 36 69 105 11

Russell, Patrick RW 6’1” 200 R Birkerod, Denmark Jan. 4, 1993 Waterloo (USHL) 55 29 20 49 40

Samuels-Thomas, Jordan LW 6’3” 195 L Hartford, Connecticut May 28, 1990 Quinnipiac (ECAC) 34 13 16 29 46

Schaller, Tim C 6’2” 206 L Merrimack, New Hampshire Nov. 16, 1990 Rochester (AHL) 72 11 7 18 36

Sundher, Kevin C 6’0” 179 L Surrey, British Columbia Jan. 18, 1992 Rochester (AHL) 60 6 14 20 25

Willman, Maxwell C 6’0” 181 L Barnstable, Massachusetts Feb. 13, 1995 Williston-Northampton (USHS) 25 21 23 44 -

DEFENSE POS HT WT S BIRTHPLACE BIRTHDATE 2013-14 TEAM GP G A PTS PIM

Austin, Brady D 6’3” 234 L Bobcaygeon, Ontario June 16, 1993 London (OHL) 60 8 20 28 36

Belleville (OHL) 7 1 4 5 6

Florentino, Anthony D 6’1” 226 R Boston, Massachusetts Jan. 30, 1995 Providence (H-East) 30 5 6 11 16

Gauthier-Leduc, Jerome D 6’1” 192 R Quebec City, Quebec July 30, 1992 Rochester (AHL) 51 3 7 10 22

Gwinnett (ECHL) 8 1 3 4 2

Martin, Brycen D 6’2” 195 L Calgary, Alberta May 9, 1996 Swift Current (WHL) 72 6 31 37 42

McCabe, Jake D 6’1” 210 L Eau Claire, Wisconsin Oct. 12, 1993 U. of Wisconsin (Big 10) 36 8 17 25 53

Buffalo (NHL) 7 0 1 1 15

Prochno, Andrew D 5’11” 185 L Edina, Minnesota Nov. 3, 1991 St. Cloud State (NCHC) 32 3 16 19 16

Prophet, Brandon D 6’2” 202 L Brockville, Ontario June 3, 1996 Saginaw (OHL) 65 2 17 19 72

Pysyk, Mark D 6’1” 192 R Sherwood Park, Alberta Jan. 11, 1992 Buffalo (NHL) 44 1 6 7 16

Rochester (AHL) 31 1 11 12 28

Ristolainen, Rasmus D 6’4” 219 R Turku, Finland Oct. 27, 1994 Buffalo (NHL) 34 2 2 4 6

Rochester (AHL) 34 6 14 20 22

Zadorov, Nikita D 6’5” 220 L Moscow, Russia April 15, 1995 London (OHL) 36 11 19 30 43

Buffalo (NHL) 7 1 0 1 4

GOALTENDER POS HT WT C BIRTHPLACE BIRTH DATE 2013-14 TEAM GP W-L-OT GAA SV%

Johansson, Jonas G 6’4” 198 L Gavle, Sweden Sept. 19, 1995 Brynas Jr. (Swe-Jr.) 23 - 2.32 .911

Brynas (SHL) 4 2-2-0 2.96 .914

Lieuwen, Nathan G 6’5” 186 L Abbotsford, British Columbia Aug. 8, 1991 Rochester (AHL) 32 17-11-2 2.34 .922

Buffalo (NHL) 7 1-4-0 2.98 .906

Makarov, Andrey G 6’1” 178 L Kazan, Russia April 20, 1993 Fort Wayne (ECHL) 31 15-11-4 2.79 .906

Rochester (AHL) 10 7-3-0 2.20 .927

Petersen, Cal G 6’2” 175 R Waterloo, Iowa Oct. 19, 1994 Waterloo (USHL) 38 27-7-4 2.50 .915

Ullmark, Linus G 6’3” 195 L Lugnvik, Sweden July 31, 1993 MODO (SHL) 35 17-16-0 2.08 .931

[GASabresIUFAN]

If we had kept Compher, Pysyk, Armia, Zadorov, signed Petersen & Cagguila, we'd be a much better hockey team.  Just saying.

[Randall Flagg]

If we had kept Compher, Pysyk, Armia, Zadorov, signed Petersen & Cagguila, we'd be a much better hockey team.  Just saying.

Girgensons - Eichel - Reinhart

Wilson - Compher - Armia 

Caggiula and his 20 points - Larsson - Okposo 

xxx - xxx - Pominville 

 

Zadorov - Ristolainen

Scandella trade doesn't happen, so 

McCabe - Pysyk 

Beaulieu - Bogosian 

 

Ullmark 

Petersen

Meh. Much better? 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Girgensons - Eichel - Reinhart

Wilson - Compher - Armia

Caggiula and his 20 points - Larsson - Okposo

xxx - xxx - Pominville

 

Zadorov - Ristolainen

Scandella trade doesn't happen, so

McCabe - Pysyk

Beaulieu - Bogosian

 

Ullmark

Petersen

Meh. Much better?

 

Why wouldn’t the Scandella trade happen? Why do you have Pommers on the roster then? Where is Foligno? We probably don’t trade for Baloo. Where are NCAA FA’s Erod and Nelson? Where is Mittelstadt? Why do you still have Bogo? If you keep Armia then you also keep the 1st rd pick, and maybe the Kane/Bogo trade doesn’t happen and Brock Boesser is a Sabres. Yes the team would be better. We’d also have saved millions on TM’s lousy acquistions. Edited June 24, 2018 by GASabresIUFAN

[Randall Flagg]

Why wouldn’t the Scandella trade happen? Why do you have Pommers on the roster then? Where is Foligno? We probably don’t trade for Baloo. Where are NCAA FA’s Erod and Nelson? Where is Mittelstadt? Why do you still have Bogo? If you keep Armia then you also keep the 1st rd pick, and maybe the Kane/Bogo trade doesn’t happen and Brock Boesser is a Sabres. Yes the team would be better. We’d also have saved millions on TM’s lousy acquistions.

Good call, I thought about the Scandella thing after I had written the forwards down. I don't think we'd have needed to make a middling pair trade if we had had two more defenders under contract, especially with how weak the forward group was. 

 

I was more building a group that would have played last season, which is why Mittelstadt isn't there. Throw Rodrigues in an empty spot, where he was playing this year. 

 

Your following "maybe" scenario is certainly not enough to convince me the team would be meaningfully better. 

[thewookie1]

Good call, I thought about the Scandella thing after I had written the forwards down. I don't think we'd have needed to make a middling pair trade if we had had two more defenders under contract, especially with how weak the forward group was. 

 

I was more building a group that would have played last season, which is why Mittelstadt isn't there. Throw Rodrigues in an empty spot, where he was playing this year. 

 

Your following "maybe" scenario is certainly not enough to convince me the team would be meaningfully better. 

 

I'd guess we wouldn't be the worst in the league but we certainly wouldn't be a playoff team. 

[TrueBlueGED]

If we had kept Compher, Pysyk, Armia, Zadorov, signed Petersen & Cagguila , we'd be a much better hockey team. Just saying.

I have no idea why you tossed those things in. It's not like we didn't try. If you're going to play the "what if" game, you should probably limit it to what we had control over.

 

Edit: Furthermore, Compher + Zadorov > O'Reilly is a really hard sell.

Edited June 24, 2018 by TrueBlueGED

[Weave]

Girgensons - Eichel - Reinhart

Wilson - Compher - Armia 

Caggiula and his 20 points - Larsson - Okposo 

xxx - xxx - Pominville 

 

Zadorov - Ristolainen

Scandella trade doesn't happen, so 

McCabe - Pysyk 

Beaulieu - Bogosian 

 

Ullmark 

Petersen

Meh. Much better? 

 

That roster screams lottery selection to me.

[Randall Flagg]

That roster screams lottery selection to me.

I agree, which is what we were this past year, which is why I don't think we'd be "much better" with that group of players. 

[TrueBlueGED]

I agree, which is what we were this past year, which is why I don't think we'd be "much better" with that group of players.

I'd venture to say we wouldn't be any better at all. A little more depth on the wing and blue line doesn't make up for our 2C going from O'Reilly to...Rodrigues?

[Brawndo]

Link to Rosters

 

https://sabresdigitalpressbox.com/2018/06/25/sabres-announce-2018-development-camp-roster/

[That Aud Smell]

Per Baker: No Hurley, no Karabacek.

 

Both 2nd rounders.

[WildCard]

Per Baker: No Hurley, no Karabacek.

 

Both 2nd rounders.

Any idea why not?

[That Aud Smell]

But neither a CHL player, I don't think.

 

(Or is the QMJHL considered part and parcel of that?)

Any idea why not?

 

Because they're not so good at the hockey?

 

Or maybe they aged out?

[LGR4GM]

Why waste the contracts

[dudacek]

I think Karabacek is still under contract, but I would not be surprised if we have cut ties, or intend to.

Dude still can’t make the Amerks after two years pro.

 

I would be shocked if Hurley is ever offered a contract.

Edited June 25, 2018 by dudacek

[LGR4GM]

Karabacek does have 1 more year.

 

Man looking at our capfriendly list... there's a ton of new faces Rochester bound.

[dudacek]

 

 

Interesting to see Glotov there.

Hadn’t seen where he had been offered a contract.