Randall Flagg Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, WildCard said: Catching up on the weekend, so sorry if this has already been posted, but apparently the Karlsson trade talks have turned into a real pissing match. Tampa, Dallas, and Vegas are still the front runners. Tampa had a deal in place until Melnyk got cold feet and tried to throw Ryan in the deal again. This obviously didn't go over too well with Stevie Y, so Tampa is now standing it's ground Dallas is unwilling to part with Heiskanen, which is Ottawa's sticking point Not sure what the hold up is with Vegas. They have the cap space, but maybe not the picks/young talent. At this point it's pretty much whoever is willing to blink first. Karlsson is still 100% moving, it's just a matter of where at this point. My money is on Tampa. Dallas simply isn't going to part with Heiskanen, and I don't know if Vegas has the options. Stevie Y wins the mind game with Melynk, and puts his team back as favorites in the East Is this from somewhere or something you're just saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Is this from somewhere or something you're just saying? Just combing through the reddit threads, grabbing a consensus of what can and cannot actually be confirmed Here's more from the Pagnotta Quote Wow, the new quote function is pretty freaking awesome. That is insanely cool, well done SDS Edited July 8, 2018 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Wonder if Vegas trades Karlsson for Karlsson? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 3 hours ago, LTS said: Wonder if Vegas trades Karlsson for Karlsson? ? No chance. Also: if there were an extension in place I’d give up a decent amount for Patches. McCabe, a first and a middle of the pack prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 But would you want to give up all that and give Pacioretty a fat contract? I’ve heard that he’s looking for term and high dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, nfreeman said: But would you want to give up all that and give Pacioretty a fat contract? I’ve heard that he’s looking for term and high dollars. Isn’t every player? He’s worth a good contract. I’m not going to give him crazy money (less than Kane). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, nfreeman said: But would you want to give up all that and give Pacioretty a fat contract? I’ve heard that he’s looking for term and high dollars. At 29 no, no I would not. Like Hoss mentioned though, at 29 I doubt he wants to come here anyways. He's probably looking at a Dallas or something similar 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: Isn’t every player? He’s worth a good contract. I’m not going to give him crazy money (less than Kane). He was worth that good contract 5 years ago and instead took his garbage one for 6X$4M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 I guess I don’t think Pacioretty would sign an extension for less than, say, $6MM x 6 years, and I wouldn’t want the Sabres to give him that contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 6 hours ago, nfreeman said: But would you want to give up all that and give Pacioretty a fat contract? I’ve heard that he’s looking for term and high dollars. Yeah - no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 I mean, we’ve got Okposo. Can’t rightly sign another good, not great, winger whose best work is largely behind him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Hoss said: No chance. Also: if there were an extension in place I’d give up a decent amount for Patches. McCabe, a first and a middle of the pack prospect. I'd pass. This team can keep pissing away first round picks and depth defenders and even middle of the pack prospects (Asplund for example) for either 1 year of a 29 year old winger or even worse, paying him the 6-8 years he will want in a new contract at 7+ million a year. It is just a waste for a team that's cores average age is what? 21. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 No way do they give any 1sts for a guy of his talent and age wanting 6 years, absolutely no way. This team is on a schedule and he's not on that schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Quote "It's about, does he want to spend the next eight years in Columbus?" Daniel Milstein [Panarin's agent] said in a Q&A published Sunday. "That's the only thing at stake right now. If it was a two-year deal we probably would have done it. But it isn't a two-year deal. It's [going to] have to be an extended, seven- or eight-year deal put in place." https://www.nhl.com/news/artemi-panarin-unsure-of-long-term-deal-with-columbus-blue-jackets/c-299438652 Edited July 9, 2018 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 So now what happens with the Panarin situation in Columbus? 26 year old stud who does not look like he wants to stay with Jackets..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, CallawaySabres said: So now what happens with the Panarin situation in Columbus? 26 year old stud who does not look like he wants to stay with Jackets..... I think he’s going to push his way to the Bruins or Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hoss said: I think he’s going to push his way to the Bruins or Rangers. Why there? The rumblings were Florida or California. Granted they are just that, 'rumblings' Edited July 9, 2018 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 I thought I read Chicago, LA, NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, WildCard said: Why there? The rumblings were Florida or California. Granted they are just that, 'rumblings' I’ve read Boston and NY. Rumblings are fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 God please just go to the freaking West @MikeCairns5 Hearing the rumblings and got a good feeling we may finally be getting close to a conclusion with the Lightning and Erik Karlsson. Stay Tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 40 minutes ago, WildCard said: God please just go to the freaking West @MikeCairns5 Hearing the rumblings and got a good feeling we may finally be getting close to a conclusion with the Lightning and Erik Karlsson. Stay Tuned. Nope. Sabres arnt winning the cup over the next couple seasons anyway so Tampa would be one of my favourite bets to prevent the leafs from doing it. It'll also hamstring Tampa enough with the cap that they will have to lose some other key players anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Derrico said: Nope. Sabres arnt winning the cup over the next couple seasons anyway so Tampa would be one of my favourite bets to prevent the leafs from doing it. It'll also hamstring Tampa enough with the cap that they will have to lose some other key players anyway. We aren't even going to make the playoffs for the next 6 years with Boton, Tampa, and Toronto in our division if Tampa gets Karlsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, WildCard said: We aren't even going to make the playoffs for the next 6 years with Boton, Tampa, and Toronto in our division if Tampa gets Karlsson I donno man, with or without karlsson Tampa is a tough beat either way. I think catching Boston is the first option and then Toronto. Best case may eventually get the first wildcard and cross over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Derrico said: I donno man, with or without karlsson Tampa is a tough beat either way. I think catching Boston is the first option and then Toronto. Best case may eventually get the first wildcard and cross over. Tampa is a power for sure but having two defensive pairings of Karlsson -- XXX and Hedman -- XXX? There's 60m in a game, and that's basically 50m of it you're not doing sh!t for offensively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, WildCard said: Tampa is a power for sure but having two defensive pairings of Karlsson -- XXX and Hedman -- XXX? There's 60m in a game, and that's basically 50m of it you're not doing sh!t for offensively This is all true. But you don't live in leaf country my friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, WildCard said: God please just go to the freaking West @MikeCairns5 Hearing the rumblings and got a good feeling we may finally be getting close to a conclusion with the Lightning and Erik Karlsson. Stay Tuned. The East is improving it's superiority over the West. The balance has shifted for now. 47 minutes ago, Derrico said: I donno man, with or without karlsson Tampa is a tough beat either way. I think catching Boston is the first option and then Toronto. Best case may eventually get the first wildcard and cross over. Bingo. The playoff system right now as currently constructed is a poor one, but it could work to the Sabres' advantage in the future. We don't have to beat Tampa, Toronto, and Boston every year. We just have to beat the battle-tested one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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