LGR4GM Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) I think Vegas would make a good trade partner for kane. I'll take Suzuki and a pick for Kane. Vegas toss in a roster player to make it smooth. How about Suzuki, a 2nd (Conditional, if Kane doesn't sign with them it is a 3rd), and Lindberg for Kane? We retain 25% salary on Kane. Edited February 9, 2018 by SkuggaLiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) We’re a little more than two weeks away from the February 26 NHL trade deadline, and there could be the ingredients for a bombshell in the works behind the scenes. The usual names of Rick Nash, Evander Kane, Max Pacioretty and a host of others – comprised of both rentals and term players – have been in the rumor mill for awhile. Some deals manage to fly under the radar though. “I just have a feeling that there’s going to be one big deal that comes that we didn’t see coming,” Insider Elliotte Friedman shared during a Friday morning radio hit on Calgary’s Sportsnet 960. “Guys tell me there’s just a lot being talked about out there. “Right now there are more sellers than there are buyers. Guys are just telling me there’s a lot of names out there. And sometimes you can’t tell if people are serious, and sometimes you can’t tell if they’re just testing. Sometimes it’s a lot of talk, no action. “There’s some teams out there, GMs out there, who are like, ‘I don’t know what to make of the fact this guy’s name has come up.’ “So it’s going to be interesting.” https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/friedman-feels-surprise-trade-might-be-coming-in-nhl/ Edited February 9, 2018 by Jokertecken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 So if not Dahlin, you pick an offense with the first pick and go D with the second lower number 1. They take time to develop but will more likely be successful. Gonna need a D on Rochester to develop next year anyway as Ghule will be stepping up. The likelihood of the defender you propose drafting in the backend of round 1 going to Rochester is very low if not impossible. Also draft the best player where you draft. If 12 defenders are off the board but only 6 forwards, chances are that forward is who you should draft, even if you went forward at #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/friedman-feels-surprise-trade-might-be-coming-in-nhl/ wetfart.wav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 Kane would agreeso would the Vegas strip, but not the guy tgat would be responsible to keep him in line and focused..... I'll take Suzuki and a pick for Kane. Vegas toss in a roster player to make it smooth. How about Suzuki, a 2nd (Conditional, if Kane doesn't sign with them it is a 3rd), and Lindberg for Kane? We retain 25% salary on Kane. Vegas should make trades and retaining salary much more fun. "Vegas gets a 5th in the deal which becomes a 3rd if the result is red on the roulette wheel"Or "The Sabres will retain 25% of the salary which they can use for 30 minutes at a blackjack table to try and double thier money so they can make that salary back..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 so would the Vegas strip, but not the guy tgat would be responsible to keep him in line and focused..... Vegas should make trades and retaining salary much more fun. "Vegas gets a 5th in the deal which becomes a 3rd if the result is red on the roulette wheel" Or "The Sabres will retain 25% of the salary which they can use for 30 minutes at a blackjack table to try and double thier money so they can make that salary back..." "Go on..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 How low do you go to trade Kane? If the best deal for Kane is a mid level Prospect and a conditional pick, do you still pull the trigger? Any chance you just keep him for the remainder of the season? I know most "hockey" people say "dont worry about the slump" but I'm starting to worry. Hopefully he can snap out of it soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 How low do you go to trade Kane? If the best deal for Kane is a mid level Prospect and a conditional pick, do you still pull the trigger? Any chance you just keep him for the remainder of the season? I know most "hockey" people say "dont worry about the slump" but I'm starting to worry. Hopefully he can snap out of it soon! As soon as you have the best offer you feel fills your requirements, take it. You never know when that will be. It could be first and final, or marinate until the ultimate end - Feb 25th-26th. It's hard to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 Dreger - the fact that Evander Kane's production has dipped has been a deterrent, but we might start to see some activity two weeks leading up to the deadline. That may make things interesting for a potential Kane trade. #Sabres Also stated that GMs will look at the body of work and realize that putting Kane into their situation would we benefit both parties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 How low do you go to trade Kane? If the best deal for Kane is a mid level Prospect and a conditional pick, do you still pull the trigger? Any chance you just keep him for the remainder of the season? I know most "hockey" people say "dont worry about the slump" but I'm starting to worry. Hopefully he can snap out of it soon! If the price is to low you don't sell. You set a precedent then of not giving guys away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) How low do you go to trade Kane? If the best deal for Kane is a mid level Prospect and a conditional pick, do you still pull the trigger? Any chance you just keep him for the remainder of the season? I know most "hockey" people say "dont worry about the slump" but I'm starting to worry. Hopefully he can snap out of it soon! GMs are going to pay more attention to the past four years than the past four weeks, or they shouldn’t be GMs. If Botterill can’t get what he wants before the deadline, Kane should be traded for whatever he can get at the deadline. To do otherwise is completely irresponsible, worse than what Murray did with Kulikov and Franson. The decision that Kane was going to free agency was made long ago. You cut your losses and take what you can get. Edited February 9, 2018 by Mick O’Manly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 GMs are going to pay more attention to the past four years than the past four weeks, or they shouldn’t be GMs. If Botterill can’t get what he wants before the deadline, Kane should be traded for whatever he can get at the deadline. To do otherwise is completely irresponsible, worse than what Murray did with Kulikov and Franson. The decision that Kane was going to free agency was made long ago. You cut your losses and take what you can get. I have no way to know this, but I'm pretty sure recency bias is rampant among GMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 Dreger - the fact that Evander Kane's production has dipped has been a deterrent, but we might start to see some activity two weeks leading up to the deadline. That may make things interesting for a potential Kane trade. #Sabres Also stated that GMs will look at the body of work and realize that putting Kane into their situation would we benefit both parties Jesus Darren, are you even trying to say anything anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 BC Writer having some fun. https://thehockeywriters.com/sabres-evander-kane-trade-options/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 I wonder if the emergence of Rick Nash as a player who will be traded, and who also has an expiring contract, will hurt JBot's chances of moving EK9 for the price he desires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 wetfart.wav .wav? wow, i did not see that one comming. Old windows 95 farts is just the best! I wonder if the emergence of Rick Nash as a player who will be traded, and who also has an expiring contract, will hurt JBot's chances of moving EK9 for the price he desires? Isnt rick nash very overrated as of today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 .wav? wow, i did not see that one comming. Old windows 95 farts is just the best! Isnt rick nash very overrated as of today ? Compared to Kane yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/friedman-feels-surprise-trade-might-be-coming-in-nhl/ Disappointing to hear it’s a Buyer’s market... How low do you go to trade Kane? If the best deal for Kane is a mid level Prospect and a conditional pick, do you still pull the trigger? Any chance you just keep him for the remainder of the season? I know most "hockey" people say "dont worry about the slump" but I'm starting to worry. Hopefully he can snap out of it soon! The silver lining if we don’t trade him at the deadline is Ducky loses his bet and has to wear a Sabres jersey around Winnipeg. Dreger - the fact that Evander Kane's production has dipped has been a deterrent, but we might start to see some activity two weeks leading up to the deadline. That may make things interesting for a potential Kane trade. #Sabres Also stated that GMs will look at the body of work and realize that putting Kane into their situation would we benefit both parties That’s rather disappointing as well, hopefully Botterill didn’t overpay his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 I've felt right along that the closer to deadline day the less I expect. I have to believe our GM just hasn't had offers at this point rather than he's just holding out for more. I'm prepared to be underwhelmed by the return. Don't think they will settle for nothing by keeping him. Teams know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Hi. I think he said before he would trade all the expiring contracts he could but my fear is he has waited too long on Kane and other teams will start to lowball knowing we want to trade him. Personally think he should have moved him before these guys like Nash were added to the market. Edited February 10, 2018 by PerreaultForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7+6=13 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 I've felt right along that the closer to deadline day the less I expect. I have to believe our GM just hasn't had offers at this point rather than he's just holding out for more. I'm prepared to be underwhelmed by the return. Don't think they will settle for nothing by keeping him. Teams know that. Why? There's absolutely no evidence this is true. Teams don't know crap. You tell them you're getting calls from 4 of their competitors that want Kane and you're not offering as much as they are. Then see how it plays and take the highest offer. This can't happen until the deadline pushing the urgency on the "teams" from the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Don't you think these days it's more about relationships they build up from the past or their old organizations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Why? There's absolutely no evidence this is true. Teams don't know crap. You tell them you're getting calls from 4 of their competitors that want Kane and you're not offering as much as they are. Then see how it plays and take the highest offer. This can't happen until the deadline pushing the urgency on the "teams" from the other end. You may be right or I maybe. My "evidence" is about the same as yours which in both cases is just our opinions. My opinion is he will be traded and for less than many thought the return would be. I think teams that you say "don't know crap" at least know more than we do. Edited February 10, 2018 by Radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 prices dip now because teams panic. JBOT should hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 It's a game of chicken, the bubble teams will sort themselves out closer to the deadline and the domino effect will push those trigger fingers. My fear all along about holding Kane until the deadline was of his injury history. However, he is not playing like Kane so the chance of an injury is greatly decreased. He will crash and bang for his new playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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