dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Exactly which makes his value greater than pure rental. Depends on your trading partner and his cap situation next year, whether that partner’s window window is opening or closing, and how important being able to test drive a new piece is before committing to an expensive long-term relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Depends on your trading partner and his cap situation next year, whether that partner’s window window is opening or closing, and how important being able to test drive a new piece is before committing to an expensive long-term relationship. I'm looking logically. You're looking hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) I'm looking logically. You're looking hopefully.I’m trying to say his value is not linear; it varies from team to team based on their assets, their circumstances and - most importantly - what they think of Kane or Brassard or whoever is on the block. Pi is going to give up a lot more than I am to bring Tyson Barrie to the Sabres because he likes Tyson Barrie a lot more than I do, no matter what the “going rate” is. Ultimately, a player is worth whatever the highest bidder is willing to pay. Edited February 24, 2018 by Mick O’Manly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacque Richard Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Sabres won’t get what their asking for Kane. Not real optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Sabres won’t get what their asking for Kane. Not real optimisticAs long as its something. Man, looking back at that trade, I wish we'd kept Armia and Myers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Per Bob Not Sabres Related **UPDATED NHL RUMORS** Source: Devils & Lightning making big push for #Sens Karlsson L24 hours Leafs are now front runners for McDonagh #Rangers (Ducks/Lightning) still interested if price drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 If the Leafs get McDonagh I'll vomit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) Sabre Related Furthering Dark’s Hypothesis that Kane will be traded to San Jose, Buffalo has two scouts in attendance at the San Jose/Chicago Game Tonight Edited February 24, 2018 by Brawndo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 If the Leafs get McDonagh I'll vomit. I’ll get the Zofran. From Howard Berger Increasing and louder rumbles about D Ryan McDonagh coming to the #Leafs prior to Monday's deadline. Would be a hell of an acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 As long as its something. Man, looking back at that trade, I wish we'd kept Armia and Myers. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 That trade makes sense given the pieces and state of each franchise. Hope Tampa wants him bad and is driving the price up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 If the Leafs get McDonagh I'll vomit. Toronto is winning the cup sooner or later so you might as well get used to the idea. I'll make a wager that Toronto makes the Stanley cup final before Buffalo makes the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 As long as its something. Man, looking back at that trade, I wish we'd kept Armia and Myers. those two were part of the deal and I don't mind, but its like saying you want that 1st round pick back. And I would want that back more than anything. But in both the colorado and winnipeg deals there are two players I would have kept. Compher/Armia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Toronto is winning the cup sooner or later so you might as well get used to the idea. I'll make a wager that Toronto makes the Stanley cup final before Buffalo makes the playoffs Eh, they've been saying that for 50 years now. I'll believe it when I see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 those two were part of the deal and I don't mind, but its like saying you want that 1st round pick back. And I would want that back more than anything. But in both the colorado and winnipeg deals there are two players I would have kept. Compher/Armia i though adding in Myers was an overpayment since Kane was being run out of Winnepeg and Buffalo was the only team willing to take him injured that season Myers shouls have been retained and dealt in a separate deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Pretty much everyone at the time thought Myers for Bogo was a trade of relatively equal 2/3s who brought different things to the table. Kane went for the equivalent of two late firsts and two early seconds. And we got a C prospect tossed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Pretty much everyone at the time thought Myers for Bogo was a trade of relatively equal 2/3s who brought different things to the table. Kane went for the equivalent of two late firsts and two early seconds. And we got a C prospect tossed in. I will disagree with this description of the Myers - Bogo element of the trade. I think Myers had quite a bit more value around the NHL than Bogo did, and that Winnipeg wanted Myers as the key piece on the deal AND wanted to unload Bogo’s contract as another key piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 But at the time, most of the people on the forum seemed to be all too ready to move on from Myers if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 But at the time, most of the people on the forum seemed to be all too ready to move on from Myers if I recall correctly.I think, from memory, he wasn't hated here, but we all agreed he needed a change of scenery. Which isn't wrong, but that can now be said of our whole team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 If we signed Kane tomorrow, we win the trade. The team that gets the best player wins and Kane is easily the best player. But the Sabres were constructed terribly so now we have to trade him. Good trade, wrong time. Or, at least, in retrospect turned out to be the wrong time after Murray and Co or whoever else ran the rebuild (hopefully temporarily) off the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) I will disagree with this description of the Myers - Bogo element of the trade. I think Myers had quite a bit more value around the NHL than Bogo did, and that Winnipeg wanted Myers as the key piece on the deal AND wanted to unload Bogo’s contract as another key piece.Maybe a better way of describing my take is that Chevy thought Myers was better and Murray thought Bogo was better, so whatever the negotiations were or public perceptions were, both GMs were happy to make that trade straight across. There was definitely a lot of internet chatter about Murray privately bashing Myers for being physically and mentally soft. Edited February 24, 2018 by Mick O’Manly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Maybe a better way of describing my take is that Chevy thought Myers was better and Murray thought Bogo was better, so whatever the negotiations were or public perceptions were, both GMs were happy to make that trade straight across. There was definitely a lot of internet chatter about Murray bashing Myers for being physically and mentally soft. How very wrong he was, re: Bogo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 How very wrong he was, re: Bogo. Like most of his player and prospect evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Like most of his player and prospect evaluation.Wondering if TM was a Canadian spy/plant burrowing in to disrupt the Sabres hockey team. If so he did his job well.., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 How very wrong he was, re: Bogo. I'll say it again, until the last injury bogo actually played more games and was more productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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