Marvelo Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Hear me out now...don't get all hostile on me just yet. It's only an idea. I'm sure Jack Eichel would get some interest throughout the league and would create bidding wars. The right GM would get a boatload for him. I'm not saying that Botterill is the right GM but he's all we've got... It would give the core a jolt, one which is much needed and would be an instant rebuild. I'm thinking of the Oilers/Vanek signing sheet the Sabres mistakenly made...wouldn't all those #1 draft choices have been better? It just wasn't obvious at the time because Drury and Briere had just left. Jack is a talented guy but I think he tops out at Ryan Getzlaf territory. He is not a generational talent like McDavid who produces no matter what. He is unhappy losing with the Sabres and it shows in his expressions, posture and play on the ice. He is immature. It seems that there are some nights that Jack just skating around and would rather not be a Buffalo Sabre. I think the Sabres have wrecked him anyway so for the right deal, why not just send him on his way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastajoe Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 He just turned 21 and you want to give up on him? They'd never get fair value for him. He's the only reason to watch the team now. Wait a couple years when he's got Middlestat, Guhle, and Pu to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 T'was inevitable. He's not untouchable in my book. I think we are at a crossroads with Jack. It's not too late to save him, but this acceptance of losing for a better shot down the road is poisonous. And Jack is clearly poisoned here. I think he is recoverable, but I think the sand is draining out fairly quickly. This organization needs to be in win now mode NOW, before Jack and Sam become lost causes only recoverable by a change in scenery. He just turned 21 and you want to give up on him? They'd never get fair value for him. He's the only reason to watch the team now. Wait a couple years when he's got Middlestat, Guhle, and Pu to help. No. Evander is the only reason to watch now. And if we wait a couple of years the only thing that happens is Jack becomes more accustomed to losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 He just turned 21 and you want to give up on him? They'd never get fair value for him. He's the only reason to watch the team now. Wait a couple years when he's got Middlestat, Guhle, and Pu to help. Guhle and Pu are not saviors. I'd be surprised if they had long NHL careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 I mostly hope Eichel pulls an Yzerman and decides to learn defence... I think his maturity is his biggest problem. He isn't ready to have a franchise on his shoulders. Its why I never understood the hype about giving him the C - the guy frequently decides to not show up. $10 million for a one dimensional 70 point forward... we need him to be more than that. If there are doubts he can be, we should trade him ASAP (before the rest of the league realises) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Every player can be traded. Eich has some pretty serious issues, but I want to see him in action on an NHL ready roster (all of it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 I mostly hope Eichel pulls an Yzerman and decides to learn defence... I think his maturity is his biggest problem. He isn't ready to have a franchise on his shoulders. Its why I never understood the hype about giving him the C - the guy frequently decides to not show up. $10 million for a one dimensional 70 point forward... we need him to be more than that. If there are doubts he can be, we should trade him ASAP (before the rest of the league realises) They already know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 There's no chance. No need for discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 The WHAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 The WHAT? TIIIIIIIIIINNNNNN ROOF. Rusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 The WHAT? I think it lasted long until this thread was made :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 TIIIIIIIIIINNNNNN ROOF. Rusted.Well played :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 I mostly hope Eichel pulls an Yzerman and decides to learn defence... I think his maturity is his biggest problem. He isn't ready to have a franchise on his shoulders. Its why I never understood the hype about giving him the C - the guy frequently decides to not show up. $10 million for a one dimensional 70 point forward... we need him to be more than that. If there are doubts he can be, we should trade him ASAP (before the rest of the league realises) This couldnt agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacque Richard Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Right over to boston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Jones Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 If you hadn't signed him to the big extension you could trade him easily. There would be a plethora of teams thinking Seguin/Boston. With the contract, MAYBE someone would think that, but I doubt it. Would seem like a huge gamble from their perspective. Better plan would be to surround him with guys who work hard and don't take crap from kids. Teach him by example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Right over to boston Boston did trade Joe Thornton, then won a Stanley Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Jones Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Boston did trade Joe Thornton, then won a Stanley Cup. Good drafting and signing Chara had a little more to do with that, but Thornton was seen as a floater in Beantown, and that is one thing they do not tolerate well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Good drafting and signing Chara had a little more to do with that, but Thornton was seen as a floater in Beantown, and that is one thing they do not tolerate well. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) “What if we give Jack $10 million and he tops out as a 70-point centre?” I said “Why do we have to pay him this money now, before he proves he’s worth it?” I asked. For the record, I’ll trade anyone for the right return, but Jack Eichel will be fine. Edited November 20, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRobertEichel Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Trading Eichel may be an option we have to entertain down the road, but I'm not really interested in trading any important Sabre between now and February. So many of our core pieces other than Kane (Lehner, Ristolainen, O'Reilly, Reinhart, Okposo, Eichel) are playing worse than anything we've ever seen from them in their careers up to this point. With so many underperformers at the same time, one has to try looking at other sources of blame beside the individual. Coaching is one, but I'm strongly leaning towards the intangible quality of "veteran leadership" that was supposed to come from players like Gorges and Moulson but is clearly missing from the current team. I still would like to see Housley settle on a captain (O'Reilly?) and then strip the "A" from Eichel and Bogosian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Wow, a lot of people on this board wanted the C sewn on his chest 20 games ago. I'm not impressed with his season either. I think someone needs to kick him in the butt and tell him he needs to put this team on his back once in a while and win a game. Pouting doesn't cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluto Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Guhle and Pu are not saviors. I'd be surprised if they had long NHL careers. I agree! Fans are dreaming about them. We've only have 2 lines of quality NHL players and zero goal keepers. TRADE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I hope the Sabres trade Eichel so I can cheer for him on a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Jones Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 My posts deleted, warnings issued for nothing, duly noted. Enjoy your "space". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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