LGR4GM Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 For that to be considered relevant to the discussion we shouldn't compare how many played 100 games, but how many have played 400+ games and have scored close to 20 goals/82 game pace over the last 3 years. I bet the percentages drop considerably. If that's the game you want to play we should just compare the next 19 games Mcginn plays to all 3rd picks. I mean that's what we lost right? 19 games of him. If a 3rd round pick played 19 games and scores x points a game that would be the rate in this scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) If that's the game you want to play we should just compare the next 19 games Mcginn plays to all 3rd picks. I mean that's what we lost right? 19 games of him. If a 3rd round pick played 19 games and scores x points a game that would be the rate in this scenario. I didn't know we were playing a game. Although it does make sense because nobody will be happy unless they win. :angel: I was just going along with the guidelines previously set by the comparison. Edited March 2, 2016 by JJFIVEOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I didn't know we were playing a game. Although it does make sense because nobody will be happy unless they win. :angel: I was just going along with the guidelines previously set by the comparison. I don't view trading Mcginn as a win loss type thing. Very neutral. I think you changed the guidelines because of making the pick having to be worth Mcginn's entire career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 The guidelines were never meant to be a comparison... Especially considering comparing an entire career to, as Liger pointed out, the reality that a 19-game comparison would be most fair. It was meant to show what our newest asset could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm just so sick and tired of the team being torn down every year. It feels like it will never end. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I don't view trading Mcginn as a win loss type thing. Very neutral. I think you changed the guidelines because of making the pick having to be worth Mcginn's entire career. Yes, his entire career up to this point. Hoss compared 3rd rounders who have played 100 games in their career as a parameter in comparing trading McGinn for a 3rd round pick. McGinn isn't a 100 game 3rd rounder, he is a borderline 2nd liner who has played over 400 games and will never see the AHL again .... A 100 game 3rd rounder is a 4th liner/injury call up. If a comparison is made between McGinn and successful 3rd rounders, you need to adjust the percentages so it includes 400+ game 3rd rounders because you're comparing McGinn. Not just randomly select 100 games as the parameter because it equates to a more preferable percentage. If you want to compare the players that have scored 500+ goals in their career, you don't come up with a list of everybody that has scored 150+ goals and say look how many 500 goal scorers there are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'll miss McGinn and his ability to score the dirty goal. I don't see too many of our fancy dans doing that. I hope they can resign him in the off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm just so sick and tired of the team being torn down every year. It feels like it will never end. :unsure: Nice strawman. I think you know what fans are sick and tired of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I just believed Darcy when he said suffering. This is still it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Has the past 7 years of cheering for the Sabres caused you to be depressed :(, panic attacks :unsure:, obsessive compulsive disorders :wallbash:, writing on topics that your least favorite Sabres just plain suck or you have the need to post in the Presidential Politics thread??? May I recommend a product that may have plenty of side effects but is known to work...... Prozac. Please take 2 tablets before posting so we can possibly have an upbeat SabreSpace again. :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 For those bemoaning the loss of McGinn: I listened to GMTM's post-deadline presser last night. He made it pretty clear that he'd be interested in signing McGinn this summer at the right price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Yes, his entire career up to this point. Hoss compared 3rd rounders who have played 100 games in their career as a parameter in comparing trading McGinn for a 3rd round pick. McGinn isn't a 100 game 3rd rounder, he is a borderline 2nd liner who has played over 400 games and will never see the AHL again .... A 100 game 3rd rounder is a 4th liner/injury call up. If a comparison is made between McGinn and successful 3rd rounders, you need to adjust the percentages so it includes 400+ game 3rd rounders because you're comparing McGinn. Not just randomly select 100 games as the parameter because it equates to a more preferable percentage. If you want to compare the players that have scored 500+ goals in their career, you don't come up with a list of everybody that has scored 150+ goals and say look how many 500 goal scorers there are. The 100 game threshold is kinda a standard for saying a draft pick hit. As for the rest, I wouldn't use an entire career because you didn't trade that away. You traded away his last 20 games. If that pick does just that you got value for an asset we weren't keeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I especially appreciated the reference to Cunti. How did that make it past the filters?!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 For those bemoaning the loss of McGinn: I listened to GMTM's post-deadline presser last night. He made it pretty clear that he'd be interested in signing McGinn this summer at the right price. I'm not sure it's the loss of McGinn per se. It's what this move represents. We're still sellers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm not sure it's the loss of McGinn per se. It's what this move represents. We're still sellers. We are moving towards, but are not yet at the point of being buyers. At least we only sold two serviceable, but not really good parts, that at least in theory could be brought back. I seriously doubt they will be, as I am pretty much convinced that when the Sabres truly are Cup (not cusp) contenders the likes of Weber and McGinn would not be on the roster. I like them both, but not on a Sabre team taking a legit shot at a cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 How did that make it past the filters?!!!! It's a real live human. I would feel bad if you would censor his name but I can say Hitler all willy nilly. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 It's a real live human. I would feel bad if you would censor his name but I can say Hitler all willy nilly. ;) I think I need to take a leave of absense from this place. I hear Scunthrope is nice this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 We are moving towards, but are not yet at the point of being buyers. At least we only sold two serviceable, but not really good parts, that at least in theory could be brought back. I seriously doubt they will be, as I am pretty much convinced that when the Sabres truly are Cup (not cusp) contenders the likes of Weber and McGinn would not be on the roster. I like them both, but not on a Sabre team taking a legit shot at a cup. Yes to this. I think we both have a liking of the *person* more than the player he is. I feel emotional attachment to them as humans, wish they could be on a Sabres cup team. But this is what Darcy does/did. We won't win with that mentality. They where both no longer on the team when *that* Sabres team arrived we have all been waiting for. We are haggling over the amount of time till they needed replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 It's a real live human. I would feel bad if you would censor his name but I can say Hitler all willy nilly. ;) I was just kidding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) Cunty I like it, let's bring it back Edited March 2, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I was just kidding... I know, I was adding to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'll miss McGinn and his ability to score the dirty goal. I don't see too many of our fancy dans doing that. I hope they can resign him in the off season. That was supposed to be moulsons talent, crash the net, go into the dirty areas and score 20 goals :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 That was supposed to be moulsons talent, crash the net, go into the dirty areas and score 20 goals :( He nailed the crash part… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 https://www.nhl.com/video/embed/c-42081003?skin=nhlembed&autostart=true&mute=true&navid=DL|ANA|home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 https://www.nhl.com/video/mcginns-game-tying-goal/t-278829504/c-42098203 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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