Jacque Richard Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Got on their heals. Funny rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It also stings watching the Raiders' rebuild zip right by ours in two years, largely due to the draft in which we blew our load on Watkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It also stings watching the Raiders' rebuild zip right by ours in two years, largely due to the draft in which we blew our load on Watkins.Watkins and Kuandjo I believe vs Mack and Carr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I literally told my girlfriend that I was prepared for the collapse and then bam. The Bills a stupid. Top to Bottom stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 When you play with the big boys, you're going to take a hard fall unless you build a machine. This is done through great ownership and management. IMO Buffalo's time has come and gone to be a champion and there's little to no hope for both of these Pegula-run organizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Well, I'd rank him probably in an 18-23 range of NFL qbs this year. I just think he's maxed out and that we need to find better. And that ranking takes into account the running. If analyzing solely throwing and pass plays, he plummets to bottom 6-7. I don't think that's unfair. I'd imagine that even adding his rushing totals to his passing totals would still keep him in the dregs of qb yardage. And a lot of games, he has an easier time getting a 9-12 yard run off than a 9-12 yard pass. I think he's more in the 15-20 range (12-15 last year IMO), so we're pretty close overall. I dunno, maybe I'm reading your voice too harshly, but when I read your posts on Tyrod I see you verbally throwing him over the Falls without a barrel :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think he's more in the 15-20 range (12-15 last year IMO), so we're pretty close overall. I dunno, maybe I'm reading your voice too harshly, but when I read your posts on Tyrod I see you verbally throwing him over the Falls without a barrel :lol: That's the nature of football I think, every compliment is made with elation and every criticism is tinged with intense bitterness/disgust, because those are the only two possible emotions most fans feel when watching the games in my experience :P I like the guy a lot, I'm just ready to try the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 The thing that's really bugging me about the Bills defense is the asymmetry in the problems. Last year we had pretty great coverage (from our corners, anyway), we just couldn't get near a QB, so guys got open. This year, we're getting to the QB (minus today, but Oakland's OL has been magnificent this year), but can't cover anyone. Last year's corner play with this year's pass rush, and we're probably a playoff team in spite of everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Who saw the Raiders punters troll job? Awesome, just awesome! https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/805573121419935744 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 So glad I didn't invest a summer of hope and four months of my Sundays and $200 for Sunday Ticket into yet another rerunning of the same old that's been rehashed here forever. Best decision I made this year. Please God, don't let the Sabres come to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 So glad I didn't invest a summer of hope and four months of my Sundays and $200 for Sunday Ticket into yet another rerunning of the same old ###### that's been rehashed here forever. Best decision I made this year. Please God, don't let the Sabres come to this. Isn't it awesome!? It feels so freaking good when I'm not miserable, 9 Sundays a football season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I'm wondering, but wouldn't it be time to start over. Trade dareus, kyle williams and others don't sign TT, get a new coach. You won't do much the next years, but rebuild with the assets you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 The sad part is - the Bills will finish at or just above .500; left out of the playoffs for another record setting season of fail, and yet the Ryan show will continue - they're not BAD enough to force a change. Total yards defense ranking is 13th currently - and passing defense is ranked 8th. If the team were, say, 4-8 now instead of 6-6, there would likely be pressure for change. I wager the only big change - the Bills will hunt around for another "undiscovered" journeyman ham and egger backup QB to replace the current garbage, as they did with Fitzpatrick, Brohm, and most recently Tyrod Taylor. Then Brandon will market him as the next big thing! "What a find! How could <insert team name> have just left him sitting on the sideline?" lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's almost like the Bills should draft a qb every year until one pans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's almost like the Bills should draft a qb every year until one pans out. Now you just need to advocate for using every pick every year on QBS and you'll be Mike Schopp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's almost like the Bills should draft a qb every year until one pans out. The team has been woefully in need of a real QB for, what, 15 years now? In a QB-centric game? Here's what we've had since Doug Flutie for Starting QB Rob Johnson Alex Van Pelt Drew Bledsoe JP Losman Kelly Holcomb Trent Edwards Brian Brohm Ryan Fitzpatrick EJ Manuel Thad Lewis Jeff Tuel Kyle Orton Tyrod Taylor It's like a veritable QB Hall of Shame. Most of those guys would be lucky to make it to 2nd or 3rd string on a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's almost like the Bills should draft a qb every year until one pans out. There's no almost about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Careening full throttle to 8-8. ?Who gets fired first... the Ryan brothers or DD and by when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I'd clean house. Everyone who has made a football decision for Buffalo in the last 17 years, gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I'd clean house. Everyone who has made a football decision for Buffalo in the last 17 years, gone. I'm PASabreFan and I approve this message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 The sad part is - the Bills will finish at or just above .500; left out of the playoffs for another record setting season of fail, and yet the Ryan show will continue - they're not BAD enough to force a change. Total yards defense ranking is 13th currently - and passing defense is ranked 8th. If the team were, say, 4-8 now instead of 6-6, there would likely be pressure for change. I wager the only big change - the Bills will hunt around for another "undiscovered" journeyman ham and egger backup QB to replace the current garbage, as they did with Fitzpatrick, Brohm, and most recently Tyrod Taylor. Then Brandon will market him as the next big thing! "What a find! How could <insert team name> have just left him sitting on the sideline?" lol. This. Sad but fans will buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I really don't know what the Bills should do. 17 years of irrelevance I believe severely limits their options even should they decide to clean house. The established names, even though Pegula would offer big $$, I think will be hesitant. Someday they'll make it to the playoffs again I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Careening full throttle to 8-8. ?Who gets fired first... the Ryan brothers or DD and by when? What makes you sure the Pegula's would fire any of those people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 IMHO, we need to poach some guys from successful organizations to change the culture of this miserable franchise. The Bills almost always promote from within for staff openings. And, the cycle of sucking just continues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) IMHO, we need to poach some guys from successful organizations to change the culture of this miserable franchise. The Bills almost always promote from within for staff openings. And, the cycle of sucking just continues... The last two GM hires have been from successful organizations. Edited December 5, 2016 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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