Hoss Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 If McGinn and Johnson haven't extended by the deadline you trade them. I would hope that McGinn comes back, and I think Murray is likely going to have that conversation with him. As far as getting draft picks: do it. We need them. Either as currency for other deals or to restock the pipeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Is Matt Moulson untradeable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Is Matt Moulson untradeable? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Too much cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 So on SHH this morning, they were talking about the possibilities of trading Johnson and/or McGinn for draft picks at the deadline. I don't think I want that to happen. Whatever is going on with Chad Johnson, I want it to continue. Here. Yeah, I get that he's been a career backup. So was Tim Thomas. McGinn is a guy I'd like to see around next year. I think he's the Concept of Foligno, but actually there and not just a concept. And I'm done with watching the team stockpile picks. So unless Murray is going to turn those picks into actual players before the draft, I say no. Yeah I want to see what happens with CJ as well and resign McGinn. But they may not want to stay here either :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Too much cap hit. Yes. We'd have to retain salary. That would be almost guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Our best bet in dumping Moulson is retaining salary and finding a team looking to dump a contract that's a year or two shorter than Moulson's. Or just buying him out after this year. Edited January 19, 2016 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Our best bet in dumping Moulson is retaining salary and finding a team looking to dump a contract that's a year or two shorter than Moulson's. Or just buying him out after this year. Don't want him on the books for 6 more years. Keep the albatros 2 more and then buy him out. He only cuts into cap they'll need in those 2 dead money seasons rather than for 2 extra on top of that. While Reinhart & Eichel are on ELC's, cap space isn't critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Our best bet in dumping Moulson is retaining salary and finding a team looking to dump a contract that's a year or two shorter than Moulson's. Or just buying him out after this year. This is a problem contract only to be resolved with someone else's problem in my eyes. Enter Phanuef. Hey lookie here, Weber made the list of top 20 available D men. http://thehockeywriters.com/15-defensemen-being-targeted-at-trade-deadline/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I think that may be his plan. Yup. His track record to this point gives no reason to think otherwise. But even if the trades don't materialize, I'm not going to cry about stocking up the pipeline a bit. 5 years from now when we're not flush with cap space it would be great to have a Nyquist or Tatar type contribute 20 goals on an ELC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey 16s 16 seconds ago LeBrun: #Preds "are looking to make another trade or two. They're very aggressive." Poile hopes to have something in place by deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey 16s 16 seconds ago LeBrun: #Preds "are looking to make another trade or two. They're very aggressive." Poile hopes to have something in place by deadline. yey 1st rounder for McGinn :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 yey 1st rounder for McGinn :D That'd kick ###. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I've given my anti-Drouin argument in the 2016-2017 Lineup thread. We should not pursue him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Hey lookie here, Weber made the list of top 20 available D men. http://thehockeywriters.com/15-defensemen-being-targeted-at-trade-deadline/ Yep. And The Big Johnson made the goalies list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 So on SHH this morning, they were talking about the possibilities of trading Johnson and/or McGinn for draft picks at the deadline. I don't think I want that to happen. Whatever is going on with Chad Johnson, I want it to continue. Here. Yeah, I get that he's been a career backup. So was Tim Thomas. McGinn is a guy I'd like to see around next year. I think he's the Concept of Foligno, but actually there and not just a concept. And I'm done with watching the team stockpile picks. So unless Murray is going to turn those picks into actual players before the draft, I say no. Enroth, Neuvirth and Lindback all played well at times for the Sabres last year and we had no problems giving them away, so i don't think they will have any issue giving Johnson away this year. What makes it difficult for Johnson is that we've invested a ton into Robin Lehner and they are uber high on Linus Ullmark. I do agree with you on McGinn though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Johnson will be 30 this summer. Signing him for more than a year just doesn't make sense. I'd rather take the chance on Ullmark panning out our Lehner. SigNing a 30 yr goalie just doesn't make sense. Trade him at the deadline, bring up Makarov to pay backup and see if Lehner is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I've given my anti-Drouin argument in the 2016-2017 Lineup thread. We should not pursue him I disagree with you. Drouin is going to be fine once he gets away from Coop the Poop. NS knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Johnson will be 30 this summer. Signing him for more than a year just doesn't make sense. I'd rather take the chance on Ullmark panning out our Lehner. SigNing a 30 yr goalie just doesn't make sense. Trade him at the deadline, bring up Makarov to pay backup and see if Lehner is good.Completely agreed. Though hopefully Ullmark understands why we'd bring up Makarov instead and doesn't get upset with it I disagree with you. Drouin is going to be fine once he gets away from Coop the Poop. NS knows. I can't wait for Drouin to just bomb :nana: Edited January 20, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty16 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I disagree with you. Drouin is going to be fine once he gets away from Coop the Poop. NS knows. He is going to have to be a lot better in his own end, that's not just a cooper thing. It would also help him quite a bit to push the attack little more and not dart side to side. Teams play defnse in the NHL and that means backchecking and they catch up to him too much. He's good enough to learn to adapt if he wants, but it's def not all Cooper's fault he's flailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyZombies Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Johnson will be 30 this summer. Signing him for more than a year just doesn't make sense. I'd rather take the chance on Ullmark panning out our Lehner. SigNing a 30 yr goalie just doesn't make sense. Trade him at the deadline, bring up Makarov to pay backup and see if Lehner is good. I disagree, many goalies play just fine until they're 36 or 37 years old. You don't even see much of a save % dip on a talented goalie until their mid/late 30's so if Johnson seems like he could be the future then I have no problem with him being signed as a 30 year old. I guess, for me at least, it would be more of question of would rather Lehner or Johnson to be starting while Ullmark is transitioning into a true NHL starter. I totally agree with bringing Makarov up over Ullmark though, much rather let Ullmark get the regular starts over playing the top competition every 6 or 7 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Trade rumors: http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-rumors-oilers-staal-sellers/ - Teams may be hesitant on Drouin after his poor AHL production (my sensationalist journalism has been noticed :lol:) - 3 teams are guaranteed to be sellers: Buffalo, Toronto, and CBJ - RNH is available, the Oiler's believe McDavid and Drasaitl can be their 1-2 center punch - Caps all in on winning a Cup this year (surprise) - Pens will have major changes if they miss the playoffs - TB rumored to offer Stamkos a contract around the ~$8m mark Edited January 20, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Just a fact check on Straw since he's a hack: The article he linked to says absolutely nothing about Drouin's trade talks going cold. In fact, it says he's a hot commodity still. Edit: Well, this was more on Wildcard for exaggerating what straw said. Straw said teams may be slowing their pursuit. Article only says his poor play in the AHL may give teams hesitation but doesn't say it is. Get it together, WC.:p Edited January 20, 2016 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I disagree, many goalies play just fine until they're 36 or 37 years old. You don't even see much of a save % dip on a talented goalie until their mid/late 30's so if And what Goalies would those be in the modern (post 05 lockout) era? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 And what Goalies would those be in the modern (post 05 lockout) era? Tim Thomas. And... Miller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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