TrueBlueGED Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I think Mario and Kyle need to be traded while we can still get something for them I'd imagine their respective contracts make them essentially untradeable. My "thing" with Ryan Tannehill is that he's not the disaster this board and Bills fans want to think he is. He was also more than above average prior to this season, to me. He's set Dolphins records (most consecutive passes without an interception) and NFL records (most consecutive passes without an incompletion). I think Ryan Tannehill is "very good," not "above average." I think my radar is way off because of how I've evaluated QBs (specifically the Bills) for a while. "Above average" to me doesn't say much, but it seems to say a lot to others. I think this is precisely why you have such a high opinion of Tannehill. It's not warranted by his play compared to the league, but relative to what the Bills have trotted out most of the last two decades, he is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 It's been a while, but it doesn't mean it can't happen. Especially if you're looking at a team like Jacksonville that has a QB and has drafted high for a long time. Eventually they might want to use the pick to acquire a later pick plus some legit veterans to kick start their team. The most recent I can remember is the Jets moving up for Mark Sanchez. They gave up 17, a second and three NFL players. We could dangle guys like Leodis McKelvin, Jerry Hughes and a few others depending on what we do in free agency. Hmmm. Interesting. Assuming they end up in the slot 8 through 4 range, the Jags would be a good target. They have to give Bortles a chance, don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) I'd imagine their respective contracts make them essentially untradeable. I think this is precisely why you have such a high opinion of Tannehill. It's not warranted by his play compared to the league, but relative to what the Bills have trotted out most of the last two decades, he is very good. I'm not going to rehash the stats again, but I disagree. Tannehill's play absolutely has warranted respect. If the Bills QB had done the exact same thing as Tannehill I think we'd all be pretty excited. There's definite reason for worry there as far as consistency goes, but he's shown full capability for a guy who hasn't been a QB for very long. Edited October 26, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Would this be the same Woods who took the 15 yrd penalty with the selfish crack back block that gave the ball to the Jaguars close to their 20 instead of down within the 5 on the McCoy fumble? Those plays were are hurtful to the Bills cause as any other. I'd like to see the exact wording of this rule. I know that it was out into the rule book in response to some of Hines Ward's hits but I thought it was blindside hits. That Woods block was not blindside. Pox had to see him coming as they were in direct path of each other. To me that's football. He didn't tsrgetbthe head. He didn't lead with his helmet...,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'd like to see the exact wording of this rule. I know that it was out into the rule book in response to some of Hines Ward's hits but I thought it was blindside hits. That Woods block was not blindside. Pox had to see him coming as they were in direct path of each other. To me that's football. He didn't tsrgetbthe head. He didn't lead with his helmet...,, I like how the tv guys were faulting the Bills for some stupid penalty yet they never actually mentioned what the call was or showed a replay of it. The only mentioning they made of that block was how good it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'd like to see the exact wording of this rule. I know that it was out into the rule book in response to some of Hines Ward's hits but I thought it was blindside hits. That Woods block was not blindside. Pox had to see him coming as they were in direct path of each other. To me that's football. He didn't tsrgetbthe head. He didn't lead with his helmet...,, I like how the tv guys were faulting the Bills for some stupid penalty yet they never actually mentioned what the call was or showed a replay of it. The only mentioning they made of that block was how good it was. I don't know many of the specific rules of football, including this one. I still don't understand why it wasn't a legal block. I also liked us keeping our streak of illegal block in the back penalties going. They got a really good shot of Rex watching the replay and incredulously mouthing "where the was the flag?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Same thing every fall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 The Lions just named Jim Bob Cooter their offensive coordinator. That's... Offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I don't know many of the specific rules of football, including this one. I still don't understand why it wasn't a legal block. I looked it up during the game. It didn't apply to the Woods situation in any sense of the word. The final pass interference penalty was brutal too. I know every team faces some unjust judgment calls but it just seems like the Bills catch more than their fair share and at the most inopportune times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 So, why did they roll EJ LEFT on the 4th down play (and 2 pt conversion)? That looked like a horrible play call to end the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I looked it up during the game. It didn't apply to the Woods situation in any sense of the word. The final pass interference penalty was brutal too. I know every team faces some unjust judgment calls but it just seems like the Bills catch more than their fair share and at the most inopportune times. Every team has the rules applied to them exactly the same and the refs never have an impact of the outcomes of games. Let's say it all together now,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 So, why did they roll EJ LEFT on the 4th down play (and 2 pt conversion)? That looked like a horrible play call to end the game. Best guess is they thought he could get more time to make a play rolling that way rather than towards Urbik & Kujo. If that's not it, no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 So, why did they roll EJ LEFT on the 4th down play (and 2 pt conversion)? That looked like a horrible play call to end the game. because they expected an nfl qb not to throw a poof pass that was also way late? Same thing every fall... petty accurate..but lacking the evermore sickening and ironic aspects of this horrible ordeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Every team has the rules applied to them exactly the same and the refs never have an impact of the outcomes of games. Let's say it all together now,... I've given in to the dark side. The franchise is doomed and the refs will ensure they never have a chance to be any good. Satisfied? because they expected an nfl qb not to throw a poof pass that was also way late? I don't think EJ is an NFL QB. He'll be out of the league soon enough cementing the legacy. So, why did they roll EJ LEFT on the 4th down play (and 2 pt conversion)? That looked like a horrible play call to end the game. It was terrible along with at least half the calls yesterday. I don't think Roman is very good and actually seems pretty stupid. Same thing every fall... The "getting hopes up" section has shrunk to almost nothing for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I've given in to the dark side. The franchise is doomed and the refs will ensure they never have a chance to be any good. Satisfied? I don't think EJ is an NFL QB. He'll be out of the league soon enough cementing the legacy. It was terrible along with at least half the calls yesterday. I don't think Roman is very good and actually seems pretty stupid. The "getting hopes up" section has shrunk to almost nothing for me. On a similar note, does anyone actually believe that the NFL would try a Yahoo only broadcast of a game between the Giants and Dallas? Well, at least not the first one ever. There's a reason it was Bill/Jags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 On a similar note, does anyone actually believe that the NFL would try a Yahoo only broadcast of a game between the Giants and Dallas? Well, at least not the first one ever. There's a reason it was Bill/Jags. Probably mostly because it was a 9:30 am game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Probably mostly because it was a 9:30 am game. And partially because it involved the two least relevant franchises in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Probably mostly because it was a 9:30 am game. Jets/Dolphins was on CBS. And partially because it involved the two least relevant franchises in the league fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 If the league and Yahoo wants to show advertisers they should pay a ton for streaming they're not going to go out of their way to make it two teams nobody outside of the home market watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 If the league and Yahoo wants to show advertisers they should pay a ton for streaming they're not going to go out of their way to make it two teams nobody outside of the home market watches. You have that backwards. It was Yahoo that had to prove to the league and the sponsors that their technology was worth spending big dollars on teams that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 If the league and Yahoo wants to show advertisers they should pay a ton for streaming they're not going to go out of their way to make it two teams nobody outside of the home market watches. But when they aren't positive they won't have any 'oopses' they'll work the bugs out w/ 2 irrelevant teams. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Yea, I think my original thinking was wrong on this one. Cool note: the Bills were part of the first-ever HD NFL game and the first-ever widely streamed NFL game. Edited October 27, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Are we forgetting the Giants and Titans games were his 4th and 5th career starts? I think he's been impressive for essentially a rookie He looked worse than EJ ever has for most of that Titans game. I don't know many of the specific rules of football, including this one. I still don't understand why it wasn't a legal block. I also liked us keeping our streak of illegal block in the back penalties going. They got a really good shot of Rex watching the replay and incredulously mouthing "where the ###### was the flag?" It's the same as the "defenseless receiver" calls. You just can't take free shots on either side of the ball. The league said they were going to emphasis these hits going back to last season. IMO, it was a selfish play by Woods, he was looking for an ESPN highlight hit. It hurt the Bills. The McCoy fumble hurt, the ball inside the 5 instead of the 20 puts the Bills defense in a better spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Every team has the rules applied to them exactly the same and the refs never have an impact of the outcomes of games. Let's say it all together now,... The question is "Why?" Why would the NFL or the officials target the Bills? As mentioned, they are one of the least relevant teams in the league, why expend the effort? Is the league afraid the Bills are going to overtake the Patriots? The league hates the Patriots, wouldn't the "enemies of my enemies are my allies" apply? If you want to believe in conspiracies, wouldn't the logical one be that the NFL would help the other three teams in the division? Is the league out to get Rex Ryan? Why? Does the league want to get Terry Pegula? Why? Seriously, for anyone out there who thinks the league is out to get the Bills, please give an answer that isn't easily debunked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I don't think the league hates the Patriots. They may want you to think they do, but they have been a cash cow for 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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