Thwomp! Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Well I guess they have alot of faith in their former TE coach :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) It's a legitimate criticism.No it's not. We had 3 RBs clearly above him on the depth chart. If you think a legitimate option was to keep a veteran like Freddy inactive in case of emergency, then I can't argue with that. Shame on any fan wishing Freddy was here just to be inactive. And if you think he should have been active, then who of McCoy/Williams/Dixon do you make inactive. And two, what make you think Freddy would be healthy if he was active in 4 games. In very limited time with the Seahawks, he's already hurt. So seriously Freddy people. Either (1) you think he should have been inactive in case of emergency (and that is about as classless as it gets. Preventing a veteran from playing with another team so you can leave him inactive). Or (2) you think he should have been on the roster and playing. Who should have been made inactive instead, McCoy or Williams? Dixon plays special teams. Unless you want him as the 4th back and not playing at all. This Freddy crap is the worst. He's always hurt, he's not good anymore, and we have two better RBs...did anyone see how quick he got pushed down the depth chart behind an undrafted rookie in Seattle? Anyone see how quick he's out hurt? Christ I'm sure in the limited time Freddy would get to play this season, assuming he would even be healthy, we won't miss a bit with someone like Herron or Brown. And when our other backs get healthy very soon, the 4th string RB will go back to being irrelevant. Like Freddy would Bills have defined roles for McCoy, Williams, Dixon, and Felton. Why would they keep a 5th back active just to carve out a role for him. He doesn't offer anything that the other backs don't offer. We have enough players we need to make sure get the ball, Freddy is not good enough to require the ball. ***short version: what should the bills have done with Freddy if they kept him. Active or not and what role Edited October 6, 2015 by Johnny DangerFace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 No it's not. We had 3 RBs clearly above him on the depth chart. If you think a legitimate option was to keep a veteran like Freddy inactive in case of emergency, then I can't argue with that. Shame on any fan wishing Freddy was here just to be inactive. And if you think he should have been active, then who of McCoy/Williams/Dixon do you make inactive. And two, what make you think Freddy would be healthy if he was active in 4 games. In very limited time with the Seahawks, he's already hurt. So seriously Freddy people. Either (1) you think he should have been inactive in case of emergency (and that is about as classless as it gets. Preventing a veteran from playing with another team so you can leave him inactive). Or (2) you think he should have been on the roster and playing. Who should have been made inactive instead, McCoy or Williams? Dixon plays special teams. Unless you want him as the 4th back and not playing at all. This Freddy crap is the worst. He's always hurt, he's not good anymore, and we have two better RBs...did anyone see how quick he got pushed down the depth chart behind an undrafted rookie in Seattle? Anyone see how quick he's out hurt? Christ I'm sure in the limited time Freddy would get to play this season, assuming he would even be healthy, we won't miss a bit with someone like Herron or Brown. And when our other backs get healthy very soon, the 4th string RB will go back to being irrelevant. Like Freddy would ***short version: what should the bills have done with Freddy if they kept him. Active or not and what role Geez. That Giants loss has left you bitter. I'm kinda afraid to see what happens if Mariota lights up the Bills for 400+ yards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Geez. That Giants loss has left you bitter. I'm kinda afraid to see what happens if Mariota lights up the Bills for 400+ yards... I'll find Freddy and injure his other leg I borderline hate Freddy after hearing fans complain the past month I need an eichel goal this week to cure me. My dad told yesterday that after 40 years watching this team, he wouldn't care if they got wiped out in a plane crash. I understand the hatred Edited October 6, 2015 by Johnny DangerFace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I'll find Freddy and injure his other leg I borderline hate Freddy after hearing fans complain the past month . I agree. I find it hysterical that fans who lump the last fifteen years together as if it was all the same people genuflect in virtual reverence for a leader of that forever failing squad. Jackson was a very running back who just didn't fit. Good teams cut serviceable players. New England does it all the time but, of course, its the Patriot way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I think most people would have kept Freddy over Booby Dixon, and it's as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Geez. That Giants loss has left you bitter. I'm kinda afraid to see what happens if Mariota lights up the Bills for 400+ yards... One thing we know will happen if the Bills put a professional beating on them is you will once again fall in line with the bandwagon. I can just imagine what you would have wrote about Polian his first four years here if this board existed. A USFL, unemployed scout hired as pro personnel director and then promoted to GM after two 2 and 14 years? Typical Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I think most people would have kept Freddy over Booby Dixon, and it's as simple as that. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 One thing we know will happen if the Bills put a professional beating on them is you will once again fall in line with the bandwagon. I can just imagine what you would have wrote about Polian his first four years here if this board existed. A USFL, unemployed scout hired as pro personnel director and then promoted to GM after two 2 and 14 years? Typical Bills. I will give Whaley his due when the Bills go 10-6 or better and make the playoffs, and not before. What will you say if the Bills go 8-8 and miss the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I'm with Smell, I have no idea how you don't offer Shwartz the HC job but the DC one instead. That blows my mind How is his history with Suh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 How is his history with Suh? If it's good enough to be offered the DC job than their relationship is good enough to warrant the HC job IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 If it's good enough to be offered the DC job than their relationship is good enough to warrant the HC job IMO It might also impact his decision on the DC job too. When it comes to head coach, I can at least see why they'd want someone in house to take that over, at least initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I will give Whaley his due when the Bills go 10-6 or better and make the playoffs, and not before. What will you say if the Bills go 8-8 and miss the playoffs? I will give Whaley his due when the Bills go 10-6 or better and make the playoffs, and not before. What will you say if the Bills go 8-8 and miss the playoffs? Its still a process. I will be disappointed but I will also realize that Football, more then any other sport is a team game and you have both offense and defense learnng a new system once again and an offense ravaged by injury. Do you realize that at point last week 6 of 11 starters were out of the game? I still expect a 10-6, 11-5 year but I realize how slim the margin for error is. Mostly, I will judge Whaley on his four years, not the fifteen that preceded it. One thing I know without a doubt. Its ridiculous to judge anything after four games. Do you know who led the 8 divisions last year at the quarter pole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I think most people would have kept Freddy over Booby Dixon, and it's as simple as that. Most people would have been dangerously unconcerned with the need to have a 3rd string RB play special teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Most people would have been dangerously unconcerned with the need to have a 3rd string RB play special teams. So cut the 2nd kicker or the 4th tight end. Frankly, with McCoy's injury being the type that can linger, I think a 4th RB who can play on offense, even if not Jackson himself, would have made a ton of sense. Seriously, the two kicker thing kills me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 So cut the 2nd kicker or the 4th tight end. Frankly, with McCoy's injury being the type that can linger, I think a 4th RB who can play on offense, even if not Jackson himself, would have made a ton of sense. Seriously, the two kicker thing kills me. Especially since none of them can kick FGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 How did Freddie go from leading the team in receptions and rushing yards to not being worthy of being on the active roster? One thing we know will happen if the Bills put a professional beating on them is you will once again fall in line with the bandwagon. I can just imagine what you would have wrote about Polian his first four years here if this board existed. A USFL, unemployed scout hired as pro personnel director and then promoted to GM after two 2 and 14 years? Typical Bills. Probably not what is said now. After 15 years of failure there is considerable reluctance to take seriously anything this team does until proven otherwise. And I just don't get how anybody can get on Carpenter for missing a couple of kicks. You don't get on a guy who has been a top 5 kicker every year for having a couple of bad games. Especially with a leaguewide epidemic of quality kickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Its still a process. I will be disappointed but I will also realize that Football, more then any other sport is a team game and you have both offense and defense learnng a new system once again and an offense ravaged by injury. Do you realize that at point last week 6 of 11 starters were out of the game? I still expect a 10-6, 11-5 year but I realize how slim the margin for error is. Mostly, I will judge Whaley on his four years, not the fifteen that preceded it. One thing I know without a doubt. Its ridiculous to judge anything after four games. Do you know who led the 8 divisions last year at the quarter pole? I'm not basing anything on 4 games. He's been here for over 5.5 years, and is in his 3rd year as GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 So cut the 2nd kicker or the 4th tight end. Frankly, with McCoy's injury being the type that can linger, I think a 4th RB who can play on offense, even if not Jackson himself, would have made a ton of sense. Seems like a more valid criticism. I did not begrudge the TE choice. That seemed specific to the schemes Roman had in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 So cut the 2nd kicker or the 4th tight end. Frankly, with McCoy's injury being the type that can linger, I think a 4th RB who can play on offense, even if not Jackson himself, would have made a ton of sense. Seriously, the two kicker thing kills me. A kicker who can get touch backs consistently is really important And you want Dixon for special teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I'm not basing anything on 4 games. He's been here for over 5.5 years, and is in his 3rd year as GM. And the team has made progress under his tutelage. Too bad Jim Kelly didn't fall into his lap like he did for Bill but he is managing just fine. We will see how the rest of year goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) A kicker who can get touch backs consistently is really important And you want Dixon for special teams. Getting touchbacks now is so easy, I bet Carpenter could regularly enough. And if you insist on the KO specialist, well, the more touchbacks you get, the less important Dixon becomes :nana: It's honestly not even about Jackson for me. McCoy and Williams were both hurt at the time of cuts, so I just think it would have made sense to have an extra RB. Jackson would have been my personal choice, but it could have been anyone. Edited October 6, 2015 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Getting touchbacks now is so easy, I bet Carpenter could regularly enough. And if you insist on the KO specialist, well, the more touchbacks you get, the less important Dixon becomes :nana: It's honestly not even about Jackson for me. McCoy and Williams were both hurt at the time of cuts, so I just think it would have made sense to have an extra RB. Jackson would have been my personal choice, but it could have been anyone. Why can't carpenter do kickoffs a by the way. They've moved it up so much and he has a great leg on field goals. Work out you goof Edited October 6, 2015 by Johnny DangerFace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 How did Freddie go from leading the team in receptions and rushing yards to not being worthy of being on the active roster? Probably not what is said now. After 15 years of failure there is considerable reluctance to take seriously anything this team does until proven otherwise. And I just don't get how anybody can get on Carpenter for missing a couple of kicks. You don't get on a guy who has been a top 5 kicker every year for having a couple of bad games. Especially with a leaguewide epidemic of quality kickers. Didn't he miss a 30 yarder last week? That's not someone to be confident in. I just looked at the stats, and it's true that Carpenter isn't the worst in the league this year, there are 4-5 others that have a "normal" number of kicks but have lower precentages. I think the problem is there are also 14 guys that are 100% (12 of them have significant numbers of kicks). Sure, sample size but how long before it becomes an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 So cut the 2nd kicker or the 4th tight end. Frankly, with McCoy's injury being the type that can linger, I think a 4th RB who can play on offense, even if not Jackson himself, would have made a ton of sense. Seriously, the two kicker thing kills me. Well, then you're really going to be happy this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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