dEnnis the Menace Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I agree, and the number is probably 2. Assuming Adam is ready to be C full time next year and we trade Roy and let Gaustad go (all reasonable expectations), we have...Luke Adam and Ellis/McCormick for the 4th line. So my minimum expectation is that we'd need a top 6 center and a 3rd line center. Come to think of it, heading into next year with Adam as our top guy and Leino/Ennis as our #2 is quite nauseating. :sick: :sick: indeed. I wouldn't mind seeing Gaustad back for the right price to be the 3rd or 4th line guy. Adam is no more than a #3 or #2 guy right now, and i honestly do not see him developing into our #1 center. I would love for it to happen, but I just don't see it right now. 1 is the minimum but more realistic given the management team, 2 is hopes and dreams right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I agree, and the number is probably 2. Assuming Adam is ready to be C full time next year and we trade Roy and let Gaustad go (all reasonable expectations), we have...Luke Adam and Ellis/McCormick for the 4th line. So my minimum expectation is that we'd need a top 6 center and a 3rd line center. Come to think of it, heading into next year with Adam as our top guy and Leino/Ennis as our #2 is quite nauseating, although I assume any Roy deal involves an NHL-ready center prospect in return. Edit: Sorry for the thread derailing with musings of more wingers playing center. Neither Ellis nor McCormick should be playing any position, much less center, in the NHL, so let's make it 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koomkie Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Are there a lot of Sabres fans in Portland? I'm thinking about relocating and Portland is one of the places I am considering. there actually are a fair amount. there is a sabres backer bar and a bills backer as well. i really only started to meet hockey people here after i helped start a ball hockey league and then people started coming out of the wood work. as far as places to live. portland is incredible. if you have never been to the pacific northwest you are totally missing out. i can drive an hour and a half in any direction and be at the ocean, the mountains, the desert, the rain forest, honestly anything. beautiful place, and the only other place i have been that has people as nice and helpful as the people in buffalo. oh yeah....tons of babes too. if you are looking to come out for a week to check it out, get ahold of me and i will gladly show you around. go sabres! Are there a lot of Sabres fans in Portland? I'm thinking about relocating and Portland is one of the places I am considering. oh, and i have lived in west palm beach fl as well (right by you) so if you are looking for something different, portland is the place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etiennep99 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 The other day, I found a good Youtube video of Ennis from his Jr. days. At least at the junior level, he looked *better* than the 2nd coming of Denis Savard. There's one play where he deked half the opposition, when behind the net, held the puck, turned around (losing the d-man), and came bound out front and scored. Amazing. I guess that either he's too small to do this at the NHL level, or more likely, the Ruff won't let him. How many times do we see young/new guys start with amazing skill and soon fall off the charts (Ennis, Kassian, McNabb, etc.)?? It seems like Ruff's system totally stifles their God given hockey talent. Maybe it's time to get rid of Regier, Ruff, & Pominville (he's too in love with his team-mates too.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 The other day, I found a good Youtube video of Ennis from his Jr. days. At least at the junior level, he looked *better* than the 2nd coming of Denis Savard. There's one play where he deked half the opposition, when behind the net, held the puck, turned around (losing the d-man), and came bound out front and scored. Amazing. I guess that either he's too small to do this at the NHL level, or more likely, the Ruff won't let him. How many times do we see young/new guys start with amazing skill and soon fall off the charts (Ennis, Kassian, McNabb, etc.)?? It seems like Ruff's system totally stifles their God given hockey talent. Maybe it's time to get rid of Regier, Ruff, & Pominville (he's too in love with his team-mates too.) Yes - Ruff is the worst coach in the league. It doesn't have anything to do with Ennis pulling that move against kids who will never sniff the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Since none of these players were on the opening day roster.....I vote this thread closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Yes - Ruff is the worst coach in the league. It doesn't have anything to do with Ennis pulling that move against kids who will never sniff the NHL. Nah, I'm pretty sure Ruff coaches the toughness AND finesse out of players. I mean what coach wouldn't do that? GO SABRES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Since none of these players were on the opening day roster.....I vote this thread closed. Just turn the other way and keep walking. :yawn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Just turn the other way and keep walking. :yawn: Why? Lucic around or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Was there anything reported on Jochen's condition at some point today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 The other day, I found a good Youtube video of Ennis from his Jr. days. At least at the junior level, he looked *better* than the 2nd coming of Denis Savard. There's one play where he deked half the opposition, when behind the net, held the puck, turned around (losing the d-man), and came bound out front and scored. Amazing. I guess that either he's too small to do this at the NHL level, or more likely, the Ruff won't let him. How many times do we see young/new guys start with amazing skill and soon fall off the charts (Ennis, Kassian, McNabb, etc.)?? It seems like Ruff's system totally stifles their God given hockey talent. Maybe it's time to get rid of Regier, Ruff, & Pominville (he's too in love with his team-mates too.) Really? How many players have left BFLO and turned their careers around? I don't see where Ennis is lacking. He scored 20 goals as a rookie last year and hasn't had a chance to do anything this year. I don't see where McNabb started to slack anywhere with his game before he got hurt. And it was widely known that Kassian isn't ready yet. His bad performances shouldn't have been a surprise. there actually are a fair amount. there is a sabres backer bar and a bills backer as well. i really only started to meet hockey people here after i helped start a ball hockey league and then people started coming out of the wood work. as far as places to live. portland is incredible. if you have never been to the pacific northwest you are totally missing out. i can drive an hour and a half in any direction and be at the ocean, the mountains, the desert, the rain forest, honestly anything. beautiful place, and the only other place i have been that has people as nice and helpful as the people in buffalo. oh yeah....tons of babes too. if you are looking to come out for a week to check it out, get ahold of me and i will gladly show you around. go sabres! oh, and i have lived in west palm beach fl as well (right by you) so if you are looking for something different, portland is the place to be. Thanks! I'll keep you in mind, not sure what's going to happen yet. Yeah, I've been to Oregon. Couple years ago I spent the second half of December there. One week in Bend, one week in Newport and a couple days in Portland. Probably should have planned to spend more time in Portland, but I think I could say that about all the places I went while I was there haha. I think the biggest turnoff is the rain. But then again, as you know, it might not be a bad trade-off for 7 months straight of 90+ degrees and 80% humidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Was there anything reported on Jochen's condition at some point today? He's def. got concussion again. Lindy says he's pretty emotional about not being able to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 He's def. got concussion again. Lindy says he's pretty emotional about not being able to play. Thanks. I heard last night post concussion symptoms (not news) and then heard lindy today say he is out for a legthy period of time. I'm guessing this is the end for Jochen. Sadly not that he is an all star by any means. But he has always been underappreciated and overpaid here. I remember a couple of years ago when he was out with an injury saying to someone that you could tell the team is missing him by their play. Guy gave a consistent effort and no one can knock that. Especially on this team of under achievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Maybe Hecht should see that specialist Crosby did, who determined it wasn't post concussion problems but rather neck/spine issues causing the symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightrider Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 According to Capgeek, (http://capgeek.com/tracker/team.php?team=8) Hecht went on LTIR the day after the St. Louis game. Somehow, I doubt the emotional stuff is due to spinal trouble. I think the spine/neck stuff has more to do with recurring headaches, not unlike Timmy in 06-07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Else? Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Maybe Hecht should see that specialist Crosby did, who determined it wasn't post concussion problems but rather neck/spine issues causing the symptoms. Is that the same one Connolly had a couple of years ago. Sounds like circumvention of the baseline test to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 According to Capgeek, (http://capgeek.com/t...team.php?team=8) Hecht went on LTIR the day after the St. Louis game. Somehow, I doubt the emotional stuff is due to spinal trouble. I think the spine/neck stuff has more to do with recurring headaches, not unlike Timmy in 06-07. Did we ever figure out exactly what was meant by the emotional stuff? I personally just thought it meant he was really upset about not being able to play and recurrence of symptoms, not that another concussion has caused uncontrollable emotional problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Why? Lucic around or something? This made me smile. I've missed you in my absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightrider Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I don't know for sure. I took it to be the latter - concussion has caused uncontrollable emotional problems. He doesn't exactly come off as the emotional type a guy, overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Did we ever figure out exactly what was meant by the emotional stuff? I personally just thought it meant he was really upset about not being able to play and recurrence of symptoms, not that another concussion has caused uncontrollable emotional problems. If you listen to Lindy's presser after the NJ game last week (it's on the WGR audio vault), it seems pretty clear (to me, anyway) that the concussion was causing Hecht to be emotionally unstable -- not that Hecht was upset about being injured. Lindy said he was in pretty bad shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Did we ever figure out exactly what was meant by the emotional stuff? I personally just thought it meant he was really upset about not being able to play and recurrence of symptoms, not that another concussion has caused uncontrollable emotional problems. I don't think we should find out more about that at this point. It's Hecht's and the doctors' issue to deal with at this point and is none of our business (and I'm not pointing fingers at you when I say that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 If you listen to Lindy's presser after the NJ game last week (it's on the WGR audio vault), it seems pretty clear (to me, anyway) that the concussion was causing Hecht to be emotionally unstable -- not that Hecht was upset about being injured. Lindy said he was in pretty bad shape. It's really sad that a career may end like this. I've always liked Hecht, and I thought he could be a nice 3rd line two-way forward who could play another 2-3 years at 2 mil per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 It's really sad that a career may end like this. I've always liked Hecht, and I thought he could be a nice 3rd line two-way forward who could play another 2-3 years at 2 mil per year. It's kind of interesting how the general opinion on Hecht seems to have changed through this (I'm not calling you out for that). It seems like for too long now he was a part of the "everything sucks" label thrown around way too often. Now a serious health issue and that changes. I wish it didn't take something like major concussion issues for people to make positive comments about a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 It's kind of interesting how the general opinion on Hecht seems to have changed through this (I'm not calling you out for that). It seems like for too long now he was a part of the "everything sucks" label thrown around way too often. Now a serious health issue and that changes. I wish it didn't take something like major concussion issues for people to make positive comments about a player. This. It's simple really respect the game. I agree with other's he was being paid too much for his role but he has always looked like he puts it all out on the ice and I am sure that includes coming back too soon in prior years concussions before the league finally started treating it seriously this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Did we ever figure out exactly what was meant by the emotional stuff? I personally just thought it meant he was really upset about not being able to play and recurrence of symptoms, not that another concussion has caused uncontrollable emotional problems. If you listen to Lindy's presser after the NJ game last week (it's on the WGR audio vault), it seems pretty clear (to me, anyway) that the concussion was causing Hecht to be emotionally unstable -- not that Hecht was upset about being injured. Lindy said he was in pretty bad shape. I see it as a bit of both. At first he was emotionally unstable and now he's just mad that he's not playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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