Practice Lines 12/7/25; Noah Östlund returned to Amerks

[Brawndo]

Zach Metsa called up 

[LGR4GM]

48 minutes ago, Eleven said:

It's Adams not Ruff.

Lindy Ruff needs to go. We all know Adams is useless but there's a 1% chance he told Ruff to play Greenway on line 1.

Edited 17 hours ago by LGR4GM

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Ah, the old Lindy Ruff line shuffle.

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, sabresouth said:

Wow, in what universe is Greenway a top line winger? This organization is an absolute disaster. 

Lindy going to set a league record for the tallest line in the NHL.  

[Eleven]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Lindy Ruff needs to go. We all know Adams is useless but there's a 1% chance he told Ruff to play Greenway on line 1.

Are you keeping up with the literature that says that recently, GMs in baseball and hockey are not only dictating who plays, but also are dictating where in the lineup?

But I do agree that Greenway on line 1 is likely a Ruff thing.

[JoeSchmoe]

Boycotts are good.

[Taro T]

3 hours ago, Jorcus said:

Paul Hamilton stated postgame last week that Thompson likes playing with Greenway. There are positives and negatives but it is a big line and will be hard to push around.

Who is coming in for Östlund.

Would expect it to be a spare D, either Kesselring finally getting healthy or the marvelous (at the AHL level, not so much at the NHL level) Zach Metza.

And Metsa it is.

[shrader]

45 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Would expect it to be a spare D, either Kesselring finally getting healthy or the marvelous (at the AHL level, not so much at the NHL level) Zach Metza.

And Metsa it is.

Has Metsa actually been in for any games? That may have completely snuck past me. 

[SwampD]

I kinda think the Greenway on the first line is a good choice against Calgary. Their D is huge. We know Tuch and Tage can play together and Greenway is useless everywhere else. I like it.

[SABRES 0311]

Those lines suck. Greenway on the top line? 

[ska-T Palmtown]

My first reaction was "This team practices?"

[Doohickie]

7 hours ago, sabresouth said:

Wow, in what universe is Greenway a top line winger?

The Sabreverse.

[PerreaultForever]

50 minutes ago, SwampD said:

I kinda think the Greenway on the first line is a good choice against Calgary. Their D is huge. We know Tuch and Tage can play together and Greenway is useless everywhere else. I like it.

The concept isn't flawed. This is how Washington turned Tom Wilson into a productive player rather than just a wrecking ball. But Greenway is no Tom Wilson.

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

Has Metsa actually been in for any games? That may have completely snuck past me. 

4.

And he's a plus 3 somehow.  So expecting it'll just be a matter of time before @Doohickie's telling us all how he should be playing every night.  😉 

[Doohickie]

6 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

Lets send Ostund, who has legit been having good games...lets send him down

He's been dropping off the last few games.  Let him spend some time in Rochester and get his tires pumped up.

41 minutes ago, Taro T said:

4.

And he's a plus 3 somehow.  So expecting it'll just be a matter of time before @Doohickie's telling us all how he should be playing every night.  😉 

[sabremike]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

The concept isn't flawed. This is how Washington turned Tom Wilson into a productive player rather than just a wrecking ball. But Greenway is no Tom Wilson.

Tom Wilson is a really good hockey player.

Jordan Greenway is Temu Matt Martin.

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, sabremike said:

Tom Wilson is a really good hockey player.

Jordan Greenway is Temu Matt Martin.

I'd take a young Matt Martin over a young Jordan Greenway any day. 

That's the point though. Nobody thought Wilson had that in him in his earlier days. Greenway's just a big slow lug who takes shifts off when he doesn't feel like it. 

[Sabres73]

10 hours ago, Brawndo said:

Tuch will be a deadline move, Tage around the draft and I do not blame either of them 

I'm just meh on losing Tuch if he's set on a $11 million a year deal at his age. Sell high. Some of the kids are ready.

[#freejame]

Greenway sucks. Östlund is better than at least 1/3 of the team. We aren’t a serious organization. 

[Weave]

4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

I'd take a young Matt Martin over a young Jordan Greenway any day. 

That's the point though. Nobody thought Wilson had that in him in his earlier days. Greenway's just a big slow lug who takes shifts off when he doesn't feel like it. 

??

Wilson was a highly touted 1st round pick.  His ceiling was always a 1st line player.

[French Collection]

Greenway is the best on the team at giving a faster teammate a push with his stick on the backcheck,lol.

[Archie Lee]

I’ve always had a soft spot for players like Greenway.  Big guys who can handle themselves in a fight and who are therefore expected to engage, but who clearly don’t have fighting in their nature. I would bet that there are days where Greenway has levels of anxiety that most of us have not experienced. Knowing there is an expectation that tonight you will fight another team’s toughest player, when that is just not part of your natural make-up, can’t be a great way to go through your day. 

At his best Greenway is a low-end Jochen Hecht. If he is in the top 6 and he is healthy, engaged, and playing well, he can let a couple of offensive line-mates cook. 

Ruff’s track record for over a decade now, clearly demonstrates that he is in the lower end of current NHL head coaches. Of all the issues with Ruff’s coaching, this doesn’t register for me.  

 

 

[JohnC]

34 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

I’ve always had a soft spot for players like Greenway.  Big guys who can handle themselves in a fight and who are therefore expected to engage, but who clearly don’t have fighting in their nature. I would bet that there are days where Greenway has levels of anxiety that most of us have not experienced. Knowing there is an expectation that tonight you will fight another team’s toughest player, when that is just not part of your natural make-up, can’t be a great way to go through your day. 

At his best Greenway is a low-end Jochen Hecht. If he is in the top 6 and he is healthy, engaged, and playing well, he can let a couple of offensive line-mates cook. 

Ruff’s track record for over a decade now, clearly demonstrates that he is in the lower end of current NHL head coaches. Of all the issues with Ruff’s coaching, this doesn’t register for me.  

 

 

Ruff was at the end of his extended and overall successful coaching career with multiple teams. He was basically retired. He was hired after a blatantly nonexistent search directed by the owner to the GM. At that stage of his career no other franchise would have even considered him for a HC job.

KA was hired by the silent owner to rebuild the roster and basically start over. No other organization in the league would have considered such a Howdy Doody candidate for the most important position for a franchise let alone hire him. How many other owners would have kept on their GMs with the record that our shallow GM has?

The Pegula constructed organization is an unserious  organization. The outcome should not be a surprise. And the owner remains silent! Abnormality has become this franchise’s normality. 

 

[#freejame]

1 hour ago, Archie Lee said:

I’ve always had a soft spot for players like Greenway.  Big guys who can handle themselves in a fight and who are therefore expected to engage, but who clearly don’t have fighting in their nature. I would bet that there are days where Greenway has levels of anxiety that most of us have not experienced. Knowing there is an expectation that tonight you will fight another team’s toughest player, when that is just not part of your natural make-up, can’t be a great way to go through your day. 

At his best Greenway is a low-end Jochen Hecht. If he is in the top 6 and he is healthy, engaged, and playing well, he can let a couple of offensive line-mates cook. 

Ruff’s track record for over a decade now, clearly demonstrates that he is in the lower end of current NHL head coaches. Of all the issues with Ruff’s coaching, this doesn’t register for me.  

 

 

I see almost none of what you’re talking about in Greenway. Having read through Wild fans thoughts in the past, they didn’t see that either. 

[Sidc3000]

I’m fine with Östlund being sent down because he’s developing well and doesn’t need to be too exposed to the ***** show that is the Sabres.
 

Greenway on the top line is a choice