Final Roster - Any Surprises ?

[Taro T]

Interesting.

Whoever had 14-6-3 on their card when camp opened, please share whatever it is you're on.

Guess if a D-man not named Dahlin gets hurt, until they can get an emergency callup of Jones, they'd run Dahlin for 30-32 minutes; Byram for 26-28; leaving the other 3 ~20 minutes each hoping for a LOT of PP time.

[Brawndo]

23 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

One for each period

2-2-2 Formation
 

Two forwards 

Two Defensemen 

Two Goalies 

[Two or less]

19 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

What is the vision for the roster?  

I get the injuries to Power and Kesselring jumbled the D group, but Lyon, Georgiev and Ellis in net?  

I get pick by up Ellis.  His AHL numbers are very good and he wasn’t displacing Binnington but why keep Georgiev?  
 

 

Who else would you want? Their #1 Luukkonen is on the IR.

[GASabresIUFAN]

10 minutes ago, Two or less said:

 

Who else would you want? Their #1 Luukkonen is on the IR.

That’s my point.  Why are UPL, Lyon, Georgiev and now Ellis the best options in net. Basically the goaltending is so bad, I’m not sure this team has a chance.

[Two or less]

4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

That’s my point.  Why are UPL, Lyon, Georgiev and now Ellis the best options in net. Basically the goaltending is so bad, I’m not sure this team has a chance.

Who would you have gotten? 

[sabresouth]

Ka has had 5-6 years to fix the goalie position. I'd say we're in as bad of or worse shape than when ka came here. 

[OverPowerYou]

Now that we are officially eliminated from playoff contention, who can we root for this year? Should we jump on the bandwagon of whatever team wins the Stanley cup with Alex Tuch? 

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 minute ago, sabresouth said:

Ka has had 5-6 years to fix the goalie position. I'd say we're in as bad of or worse shape than when ka came here. 

Worse shape.  Ullmark was here when KA arrived.

As to who I would have acquired; hard to know who even was available and admittedly the goaltender market was thin this offseason, but this band-aid goaltending has been the status quo since Ullmark left.  Surely there was some opportunity over the last 5 years to find a decent starting goalie?

[Porous Five Hole]

50 minutes ago, sabresouth said:

Ka has had 5-6 years to fix the goalie position. I'd say we're in as bad of or worse shape than when ka came here. 

This is true and it all goes back to the UPL extension. UPL had a nice 23-24 season, but it did not warrant a five year extension because it was the outlier to his career trajectory.  He got hot for 40 games and KA was hoodwinked. 
 

You would like to think the GM knows his guys and this was a good decision.  It wasn’t. And he stopped trying to improve the position once he inked that deal.  

[SABRES 0311]

51 minutes ago, OverPowerYou said:

Now that we are officially eliminated from playoff contention, who can we root for this year? Should we jump on the bandwagon of whatever team wins the Stanley cup with Alex Tuch? 

I don’t know why but I’m starting to like Eichel and VGK.

[SABRES 0311]

11 games in October I think. We’ll know what this team is by November.

Is Geertsen in the lineup as a response to Rempe?

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Worse shape.  Ullmark was here when KA arrived.

As to who I would have acquired; hard to know who even was available and admittedly the goaltender market was thin this offseason, but this band-aid goaltending has been the status quo since Ullmark left.  Surely there was some opportunity over the last 5 years to find a decent starting goalie?

There were a bunch of goalies that could have been traded for when expansion happened. Ullmark was a free agent so they didn't need to protect him and could easily have added one of them, from teams that had two,  cheap. I am sure Adams just assumed Ullmark would take his offer and it was a dumb decision. 

19 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

11 games in October I think. We’ll know what this team is by November.

Is Geertsen in the lineup as a response to Rempe?

You're kidding right? No disrespect to Geertsen, I like him, but he's no match for the heavyweights. 

 

1 hour ago, OverPowerYou said:

Now that we are officially eliminated from playoff contention, who can we root for this year? Should we jump on the bandwagon of whatever team wins the Stanley cup with Alex Tuch? 

Personally I want to root AGAINST Edmonton for the next two years as I am sure if he doesn't win McDavid will leave after this good faith extension. 

I hate to cheer for Montreal. I have historically always hated them, but I simply like the way they are rebuilding. If they can get in and knock out Toronto I'm happy with that. Then they can lose to whichever Florida team survives. 

We all know however that Los Angeles will go to the final and lose, because they have Perry. 

[Flashsabre]

Rumor is when the Sabres Brass go to make the Official Team Lineup that the page is blank except for one name: Jacob Bryson. They fill in the other names in pen but Bryson’s is already there in typed print.😁

Edited 15 hours ago by Flashsabre

[GoPuckYourself]

This is a terrible lineup, 6 years this guy has had and this is the best lineup he could put together?

[Pimlach]

What happened to Zac Jones?  Did Ryan Johnson beat him out?  
 

This looks like another California Golden Seals type season. 

[Pimlach]

4 hours ago, dudacek said:

I don’t disagree with you.

But I’m pretty sure Lindy Ruff does.

I said in the summer that Geertsen was targeted - by Lindy - to be used in this specific role, I’ve seen nothing to change my mind.

This is a coach who has already got - from his own mouth - three Swiss Army knives on the roster (Danforth, Krebs and McLeod).

It’s a coach who likes to roll his top 9 hard and use his 4th liners situationally.

And it’s a coach who sat Andrew Peters on the bench for 55 minutes a game, and played him 55 games a year.

I’d say it’s less deterrent than it is response, but Geertsen is getting the final roster spot.

Well, at least Dahls, Tucky, and Tommer won’t have to fight if we are carrying Gertie.  

[SabresBillsFan]

I watched Geertsen a lot last season on the Silver Knights and I’m totally shocked he made the Sabres. He never stood out in any way. Yes, he will drop the gloves but other than that he’s not gonna do anything.

[LGR4GM]

7 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Well, at least Dahls, Tucky, and Tommer won’t have to fight if we are carrying Gertie.  

I think that's a problem. If you aren't willing to defend yourself or you teammates because Gertie is sitting on the bench, your team is going to be weaker not stronger. Not saying that's what will happen but toughness is a team effort. 

[LGR4GM]

7 hours ago, Pimlach said:

What happened to Zac Jones?  Did Ryan Johnson beat him out?  
 

This looks like another California Golden Seals type season. 

What's funny is this team could have Bernard-Docker or Grezlyc for basically the same money but went with Jones and Bryson. Just amazing how much they mismanaged the easy parts. 

[JP51]

16 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:

One can only hope.

But someone still needs to be Pegula's yes-man next year. Adams POHO, Ruff Senior Consultant, Jarmo or Forton as GM. Appert as HC. It's all the same. Naturally, you then extend the assistant coaches for continuity. And because they're the cheapest coaching staff in the league. All this after a very thorough search and interview process at each position.

Yeah, disheartening isnt it...   Pegula is either gonna get it or he isnt.... I think as long as the Stadium is number 1 he isnt gonna get it....  my only hope is that he is not absolutely Tommy "the pinball wizard" (IYKYK lol)  and will turn some attention after this thing is done... but if you ask me to bet... we are gonna see this as long as he owns the team... 

[inkman]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

What's funny is this team could have Bernard-Docker or Grezlyc for basically the same money but went with Jones and Bryson. Just amazing how much they mismanaged the easy parts. 

It’s a symptom 

[French Collection]

32 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I think that's a problem. If you aren't willing to defend yourself or you teammates because Gertie is sitting on the bench, your team is going to be weaker not stronger. Not saying that's what will happen but toughness is a team effort. 

Correct.

Everyone on the team has to toughen up and have a pack mentality. There aren’t many “staged” fights anymore because most teams don’t want the hassle of carrying someone who is a liability and only gives you 5 minutes. They would rather pay a semi tough guy who can play 10 minutes in another role and hold his own if things get out of hand. Ryan Reaves did not help the Leafs last year.

[French Collection]

47 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

What's funny is this team could have Bernard-Docker or Grezlyc for basically the same money but went with Jones and Bryson. Just amazing how much they mismanaged the easy parts. 

Kind of like building from the net out using castoffs and the waiver wire.

[That Aud Smell]

12 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

He got hot for 40 games and KA was hoodwinked. 

You would like to think the GM knows his guys and this was a good decision.  It wasn’t. And he stopped trying to improve the position once he inked that deal.  

This is exactly it.

Adams has utterly bungled this team's goaltending situation. He's made a complete hash of it. His hubris with Levi is a key factor as well.

[CallawaySabres]

Thanks GOD my son has a soccer game on opening night. It will be the first opener since the 70s that I will miss. 

Checks phone after 1st period - down 1-0

Checks phone after 2nd period - down 3-0

Final - 5-1 NY