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Sabres Trade JJ Peterka to Utah for Defenseman Michael Kesselring and Forward Josh Doan

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58 minutes ago, krakensabr56390 said:

Thank you for a good point - in response to whoever called my post a burner account… peterkas metrics away from Thompson are actually worse than Byram away from Dahlin. But I’m to one who’s an idiot…there is a real chance that JJ is not as good as his stat numbers looked last year if you look at the underlying statistics.

of course I would love to have gotten the fourth pick as well, but if other teams know what those metric say then there’s no way we are getting the two pieces we got plus a top five draft pick.

 

also McLeod does not need to play in the top 6 now ( to whoever said that) - they need to do their job and get another top six player and everything will be quite good. We actually have an extra $5 million to spend towards that cause and probably will have about $10 million of space after our rfas ( depending on what we get back for Byram) 

We should all be super pissed if they do not spend this money, but they haven’t not spent it yet 

Ya, whoever that was. Mr. 20 posts

do me a favour? Post more. Why are all these takes coming out of the woodwork only when they can be in pure opposition to the *rightful* reaction from the fanbase that the trade is a complete farce? 

Just be the board. Take it- change the mindset of the fan to being representative of what it should be - an acknowledgment of that whatever the team does it’s actually all ok. 

we probably got the 2 best players in the deal and dealt the 3rd best, I totally agree 

58 minutes ago, krakensabr56390 said:

Thank you for a good point - in response to whoever called my post a burner account… peterkas metrics away from Thompson are actually worse than Byram away from Dahlin. But I’m to one who’s an idiot…there is a real chance that JJ is not as good as his stat numbers looked last year if you look at the underlying statistics.

of course I would love to have gotten the fourth pick as well, but if other teams know what those metric say then there’s no way we are getting the two pieces we got plus a top five draft pick.

 

also McLeod does not need to play in the top 6 now ( to whoever said that) - they need to do their job and get another top six player and everything will be quite good. We actually have an extra $5 million to spend towards that cause and probably will have about $10 million of space after our rfas ( depending on what we get back for Byram) 

We should all be super pissed if they do not spend this money, but they haven’t not spent it yet 

 

57 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

I do not think anyone should be upset about this. We got a top 4 defenseman, some cap space and an energy 4th liner.

The Sabres have a plethora of younger talent, can’t keep them all. Address n ed move along. As far as I’m concerned, Adams did his job.

 

54 minutes ago, krakensabr56390 said:

Exactly these are 2 players going in different directions and we got the tougher one that is trending up 

 

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I guess we will see if Peterka is actually a star, or whether his numbers this year were a creation of a shooting heater combined with playing with Thompson.

For some reason people only seem to make that argument with Byram and Dahlin, but the analytics are there.

Have at it you guys - you’ve got what you wanted. For just the board in general

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I think the telling point is how fast Peterka signs the extension with Utah which tells me he either wanted out badly or Kevy was offering low ball garbage money. Utah obviously thinks highly of Peterka as I do. 

Kesselring is fine but he's not going to change things in any big way. Doan I know nothing about. I suspect that might mean there's not much to know. 

This doesn't get us in the playoffs. Might make us worse. 

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56 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Ya, whoever that was. Mr. 20 posts

do me a favour? Post more. Why are all these takes coming out of the woodwork only when they can be in pure opposition to the *rightful* reaction from the fanbase that the trade is a complete farce? 

Just be the board. Take it- change the mindset of the fan to being representative of what it should be - an acknowledgment of that whatever the team does it’s actually all ok. 

we probably got the 2 best players in the deal and dealt the 3rd best, I totally agree 

 

 

 

Have at it you guys - you’ve got what you wanted. For just the board in general

Thorny, I didn’t get what he wanted, nor did I not get what I wanted. Frankly speaking, the Sabres weren’t going to be able to keep all these young 1st rdrs. Some were getting moved, if it’s Peterka, so be it. The team has finished poorly each season, and while that is most certainly not on Peterka, moves need to be made to try and stop that.

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18 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

Thorny, I didn’t get what he wanted, nor did I not get what I wanted. Frankly speaking, the Sabres weren’t going to be able to keep all these young 1st rdrs. Some were getting moved, if it’s Peterka, so be it. The team has finished poorly each season, and while that is most certainly not on Peterka, moves need to be made to try and stop that.

What does this mean? You make it seem like 78 points for 5 years and losing your top assist-making budding star forward is the best we could hope for.

we were told this was Adams plan for YEARS, remember? “Youngest team in hockey”. That’s why we couldn’t win in the now - remember? We had to wait on these players, we’d be good when they got older; we were saving money for them. 

you CANNOT pull the rug out from under feet after and say “well you don’t get to keep them”… what? That’s what you said the plan was! 

No. No no no. No way - our second leading scorer and highest scorer of those precious RFAs?
 

“You were never going to keep them” is patently nonsense when we were told we had to save money so we COULD keep them - you get that that would COMPLETELY TANK THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE FIRST 5 YEARS OF ADAMS’ PLAN, right? And he’d still be the GM lol.

It would *prove* we should have been trying and spending back then, considering NOT doing so did little to prevent the “we’ll lose them!” fear mongering result, anyways. Might as well have tried ONCE, no?

I’ll go insane literally if this can’t be understood - the biggest knife to the gut isn’t actually losing JJ, it’s the in-real-time demonstration of why not trying before so as to “not mortgage the future” was a colossally judged mistake and the fact the same folks keep the reigns is beyond sad. 

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I quite like this trade...

Im a bit of JJ-skeptic. I think he's a good supporting piece but him and Thompson reminded me of Kunitz and Crosby (obviously not to the same level).

We got a young big-two way right shot defence man.

We should be trading Byram for a top 6 player and ideally trade 9 for another top 6 player.

Imagine if we could sign Gavrikov and our top four is suddenly:

Dahlin - Kesslering

Power - Gavrikov

With a top 6 of:

Tuch - Norris - Thompson

Benson - Rossi - Someone

Not awful...

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2 hours ago, dudacek said:

I guess we will see if Peterka is actually a star, or whether his numbers this year were a creation of a shooting heater combined with playing with Thompson.

For some reason people only seem to make that argument with Byram and Dahlin, but the analytics are there.

Oh *****, you said the quiet part out loud. 

His secondary assist rate gave me pause. His sh% is probably only 1 or 2 goals over what it should be but he's gotta keep up the volume of shots. Is Peterka a 30g, 45a player with limited defense? Or is he a 25g, 30a player with limited defense? 

As I said before though, if you're trading Peterka, Adams better be right. I think this trade is missing a 2nd rounder. 

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Like what an AWFUL trade 

Again, more than half his assists are secondary. 

Peterka had 18primary and 23secondary

Benson had 14primary and 4secondary while getting less toi.

Just some food for thought. 

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4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

100%. They should have built around Peterka, not traded him away. We've made every young player ont his team the scapegoat, First Cousins, now Peterka, Byram has been in trade talks since he got here, and everyone hates Quinn now. As of today, this team moved closer to the 1st overall pick in 2026 than they did the playoffs.

We will draft another D-man that needs a partner to reach his potential. LOL..This team makes me LOL at every move. 

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2 hours ago, Thorny said:

What does this mean? You make it seem like 78 points for 5 years and losing your top assist-making budding star forward is the best we could hope for.

we were told this was Adams plan for YEARS, remember? “Youngest team in hockey”. That’s why we couldn’t win in the now - remember? We had to wait on these players, we’d be good when they got older; we were saving money for them. 

you CANNOT pull the rug out from under feet after and say “well you don’t get to keep them”… what? That’s what you said the plan was! 

No. No no no. No way - our second leading scorer and highest scorer of those precious RFAs?
 

“You were never going to keep them” is patently nonsense when we were told we had to save money so we COULD keep them - you get that that would COMPLETELY TANK THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE FIRST 5 YEARS OF ADAMS’ PLAN, right? And he’d still be the GM lol.

It would *prove* we should have been trying and spending back then, considering NOT doing so did little to prevent the “we’ll lose them!” fear mongering result, anyways. Might as well have tried ONCE, no?

I’ll go insane literally if this can’t be understood - the biggest knife to the gut isn’t actually losing JJ, it’s the in-real-time demonstration of why not trying before so as to “not mortgage the future” was a colossally judged mistake and the fact the same folks keep the reigns is beyond sad. 

Sometimes your life he bug, sometimes your the windshield.

i don’t get upset over Adam’s anymore. Given enough years he’ll figure it out I suppose. Look at the bright side, you get to see these bright budding stars before they become famous and win a cup. Hell, you could proudly walk about telling folks “I knew that player before he won his cups.

 

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6 hours ago, Brawndo said:

Smart NHL GMs find the dumb NHL GMs and make trades with them 

Doesn’t Pegs have a friendship with at least one other NHL owner that would tell him Adams is not a good trader?

A writer on NHL.com called the trade egregious.  (Look it up, Thurman!)

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Not a fan.  That's all I got.  This is the underwhelming return that we had to expect with GMKA at the helm.  It does make the team harder to play again, but Thorny is completely right ✅️ Adams said we're saving our capital to sign our young stars.  He just outted himself as a hypocrite and soft.  Any real GM would have told Peterka's camp shut up you have NO LEVERAGE.  This trade is proof Adams has unlimited protection.  This is going to get massive outrage.

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I like the trade. Peterka was not good without the puck which is most of the game. I would have hated if the Sabres had given him that contract. When I saw Kesslering play he was always noticeable, and fills a need for a big RHD. And they add a character Benson-like forward with a good pedigree. 

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After 20 years I’m done 

 

also, does this mean that Utah will win the Stanley cup in the next 3 years ? 

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Our teams problem has been defense and in every way this made our defense better. And bigger. And tougher. 
 

Sucks that Muel didn’t live up to his hype, but this is addressing exactly that. 
 

Peterka was just another finisher at the end of the day, a good finisher, but he ain’t a star and we have finishers on our team and pipeline. 

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While I really like Peterka... I have watched a lot of late night hockey because of my job, including Utah... Kesselri(n)g ... keep wanting to call him Kesselrig because that is the way he plays... pretty good passer and nice point shot... Doan is young but tough and has skill too... not sure if that equals Peterka but fans should like the efforts of these two.  PS for those that dont know he is Shane Doan's kid 

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