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16 hours ago, North Buffalo said:

Exactly facial bleed isnt internal brain bleed... he wasn't dying... if its a trauma hospital those in immediate danger of dying get treated first plus because of deep facial cuts probably needed a specialist who may or may not be on call this time of year, and would have to be brought in or at least consulted

Last night at my hospital was busy with mvas and heart attacks... sorry dude non life threatening injuries wait.

I don’t think it’s an issue of investing what went wrong with the hospital.  I’m sure they understand how ERs work.

It’s more likely that the NHL/NHLPA have protocols that if the player can not be helped at the normal ER within X amount of time, then they have some sort of on call specialist take care of him.  Somehow those protocols weren’t or couldn’t be followed and they are looking into why.

At least that’s my interpretation of the situation.

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1 hour ago, Norcal said:

This doesn't look overly egregious. Looks like alot of hits of those type where the player takes the body but doesn't put their full weight on the other player just kinda takes a piece.

 

It was the right call.  I don't think there needs to be a suspension though.

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13 hours ago, Norcal said:

This doesn't look overly egregious. Looks like alot of hits of those type where the player takes the body but doesn't put their full weight on the other player just kinda takes a piece.

 

WHAT?  That's classic "hit from behind".  Right on the numbers.

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5 hours ago, Doohickie said:

WHAT?  That's classic "hit from behind".  Right on the numbers.

Come on man, it wasn't very hard and it was off the shoulder. He shouldn't have followed through and he made contact so it's the 5 and a game and that's fair but if you're thinking suspension go watch figure skating. 

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11 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

Come on man, it wasn't very hard and it was off the shoulder. He shouldn't have followed through and he made contact so it's the 5 and a game and that's fair but if you're thinking suspension go watch figure skating. 

He is way too good of a skater to a) not know that was how the hit would go down - the guy had his numbers to him since behind the net and b) to avoid it if he wanted to. He sure seems to turn on a dime when the puck is on his stick. That said, suspension seems a tad high, if that is really in the conversation.

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40 minutes ago, ska-T Chitown said:

He is way too good of a skater to a) not know that was how the hit would go down - the guy had his numbers to him since behind the net and b) to avoid it if he wanted to. He sure seems to turn on a dime when the puck is on his stick. That said, suspension seems a tad high, if that is really in the conversation.

I think it's questionable and I do think he pulled up and didn't hit as hard as he could have but I can accept what you're saying as well. It's definitely on the line and maybe over it. He's not a repeat offender though and Lindgren was fine, just a little cut off the corner of his helmet. He played the rest of the game. So I think it looks worse than it was. No big deal. 

I still remember a league where hits like that were not only legal, but encouraged. They put in the automatic icing only because too many D men were being crunched face first into the boards as they went back to touch the puck. 

One of the things in today's game that leads to less and less hitting is now that anything on the numbers is considered illegal guys turn to the boards without fear and thus occasionally get crunched. Back in the day when I learned hockey we were coached to not fully turn to the boards to avoid that possibility. The game changes constantly and one thing always leads to another. Eventually it'll just be all non contact. 

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4 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

I think it's questionable and I do think he pulled up and didn't hit as hard as he could have but I can accept what you're saying as well. It's definitely on the line and maybe over it. He's not a repeat offender though and Lindgren was fine, just a little cut off the corner of his helmet. He played the rest of the game. So I think it looks worse than it was. No big deal. 

I still remember a league where hits like that were not only legal, but encouraged. They put in the automatic icing only because too many D men were being crunched face first into the boards as they went back to touch the puck. 

One of the things in today's game that leads to less and less hitting is now that anything on the numbers is considered illegal guys turn to the boards without fear and thus occasionally get crunched. Back in the day when I learned hockey we were coached to not fully turn to the boards to avoid that possibility. The game changes constantly and one thing always leads to another. Eventually it'll just be all non contact. 

I remember the days of the mad dash to the puck! I am generally opposed to adding any more replay review to any sport, but I do feel for the refs who have to make that hit from behind call in real time. I think you are right that players turn their backs with impunity - and I would suspect some wait until the last second to do so in actual hopes of drawing a penalty. I think there is also something to be said for it maybe being "safer" for the hitting player to continue to make contact instead of tearing up their knee avoiding contact. 

I was always drawn to intensity of the continuous physical play of hockey vs starty-stoppy football, but watching Patty LaFontaine talk about missing days out of his life due to hitting his head too often really pushes me towards player safety.

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