Marvin Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Archie Lee said: I think Vegas is still in a position where if they just win their games they will get in. Nashville’s schedule is rough. Dallas has their Van/Cal/Edm stretch and they host the Knights. LA’s schedule is comparatively easy but they just aren’t that good right now. Vegas has three in a row at home v Devils, Caps and Sharks. If they sweep they will likely be well positioned a week from now. I think Vegas is going to have to falter further to miss. I fully expect LV to make the Conference Finals unless their goaltending fails them. They are just starting to peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 18 hours ago, Taro T said: Thought it was just Connolly that the league said couldn't play in the playoffs if he didn't get activated in the RS because he hadn't played any games that year coming off his Schaefer fun. (Could definitely be misremembering.) My memory is that the weasel-words in the threat allowed one to infer that if the Sabres went all out and LTIR-ed Connolly, Afinogenov, and a couple of other guy to get a loaded team for round 1 in retaliation, then they would only be able to activate the 1 player per series who was not in the minors all season, even if there were legitimate injuries. I called Schopp, Bulldog, and Hamilton to ask if I was misreading things and the best they could do was, "the league would not do that." The primary reason I remember it so clearly and the reason it pissed me off was because the normal recovery times for everyone outside of Connolly was normally into round 1 and that any setback to Connolly would have shelved him for the playoffs -- and it took someone noticing on Satellite Hot Stove one week later before people got upset. So the league deliberately handicapped the Sabres even though the normal course for the injuries was coincidental. I will bet big money at big odds that after Chicago, Tampa Bay, and Las Vegas have done this that the first small market that tries this will get landed on with a tonne of bricks. Why do I assume bad faith from the league? Remember after the numerous back-diving deals from big market teams that the issue only became a problem with the NHL was when the Sabres signed Christian Ehrhoff. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: My memory is that the weasel-words in the threat allowed one to infer that if the Sabres went all out and LTIR-ed Connolly, Afinogenov, and a couple of other guy to get a loaded team for round 1 in retaliation, then they would only be able to activate the 1 player per series who was not in the minors all season, even if there were legitimate injuries. I called Schopp, Bulldog, and Hamilton to ask if I was misreading things and the best they could do was, "the league would not do that." The primary reason I remember it so clearly and the reason it pissed me off was because the normal recovery times for everyone outside of Connolly was normally into round 1 and that any setback to Connolly would have shelved him for the playoffs -- and it took someone noticing on Satellite Hot Stove one week later before people got upset. So the league deliberately handicapped the Sabres even though the normal course for the injuries was coincidental. I will bet big money at big odds that after Chicago, Tampa Bay, and Las Vegas have done this that the first small market that tries this will get landed on with a tonne of bricks. Why do I assume bad faith from the league? Remember after the numerous back-diving deals from big market teams that the issue only became a problem with the NHL was when the Sabres signed Christian Ehrhoff. Tampa Bay is a small market, no? The changes in the handling of these situations that you are laying out came about due to a new CBA, as opposed to bias against “small market” teams, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Curt said: Tampa Bay is a small market, no? The changes in the handling of these situations that you are laying out came about due to a new CBA, as opposed to bias against “small market” teams, no? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Curt said: Tampa Bay is a small market, no? The changes in the handling of these situations that you are laying out came about due to a new CBA, as opposed to bias against “small market” teams, no? 13th largest in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 47 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: 13th largest in the country. 13th largest metro area? But with regards to the number of hockey fans it must be significantly smaller than the 13th largest market, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) A friend of mine can’t get over how badly Jack was treated by Buffalo, bla bla bla. I had to point out today that Jack has a career high 36 goals. Same as Tage! I showed him a clip of how excited these guys are - and how Tuch is what Jack isn’t. He then said let’s see how good Jack is with stone and patcioretty. I said, Tage is doing it with a skinner and Tuch. That line, even with Skinners overpriced contract, is about 12 million less than the Vegas line. My point to all this. We are way better off without Jack and I’m happy with the direction of this club. Edited April 18, 2022 by rickshaw 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 36 goals. And being paid $10M per year for that shouldn’t be confused with mistreatment. Lastly, next year I think Jack, Stone, and Pac may be the only players on the team worth anything because they are going to need to shed some salary in order to get them all on the ice. Edited April 18, 2022 by kas23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, kas23 said: 36 goals. And being paid $10M per year for that should be confused with mistreatment. Lastly, next year I think Jack, Stone, and Pac may be the only players on the team worth anything because they are going to need to shed some salary in order to get them all on the ice. I would laugh like hell if the cap situation forced VGK into a rebuild (i.e., keeping that one line on a team of otherwise prospects and JAGs). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porous Five Hole Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Curt said: 13th largest metro area? But with regards to the number of hockey fans it must be significantly smaller than the 13th largest market, no? You might be right. But after B2B Cups, they lead the league in attendance. And they never had a huge runoff from their 2004 Cup win. At this point, they’re an established hockey market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 hours ago, kas23 said: 36 goals. And being paid $10M per year for that should be confused with mistreatment. Lastly, next year I think Jack, Stone, and Pac may be the only players on the team worth anything because they are going to need to shed some salary in order to get them all on the ice. Who are slated to be on LTIR next season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Devils beat Vegas 3-2. Wow, the Devils were outshot badly but held on. Lehner was weak on the goals I saw. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 The Devils told the K-nig-hits that they fart in the Knights' general direction. NJD 3 - LVGK 2. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Vegas loses 3-2. lol If these guys didn't have numbers on - I wouldn't be able to tell Eichel from anyone else on that team. I certainly wouldn't say he was a standout. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru523 Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 The Knights have a new problem now, it's called the Vancouver Canucks. They're a point behind with a game in hand. (Assuming they hold on to beat the Stars) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Amaru523 said: The Knights have a new problem now, it's called the Vancouver Canucks. They're a point behind with a game in hand. (Assuming they hold on to beat the Stars) potentially on a six game win streak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 The Knights will never win with Lehner in net. Trading Fleury and signing Lehner long term is an all time blunder that will haunt that franchise. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Ankles Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: The Devils told the K-nig-hits that they fart in the Knights' general direction. NJD 3 - LVGK 2. Marvin - Are you doing and about face? I thought you were on their peaking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresouth Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, SDS said: Vegas loses 3-2. lol If these guys didn't have numbers on - I wouldn't be able to tell Eichel from anyone else on that team. I certainly wouldn't say he was a standout. I was thinking the same thing. I watched this game and had a hard time noticing when he was on the ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, sabresouth said: I was thinking the same thing. I watched this game and had a hard time noticing when he was on the ice. I mean, he makes some nice passes. but he loses a ***** ton of battles along the boards and I rarely see him taking shots other than an occasional power-play shot. He seems like the most passive guy on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: The Knights will never win with Lehner in net. Trading Fleury and signing Lehner long term is an all time blunder that will haunt that franchise. I thought that firing their coach, Gallant, was stupid too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Thank you NJD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Dallas lost too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Broken Ankles said: Marvin - Are you doing and about face? I thought you were on their peaking? They have looked very good and are getting a lot of shots -- but their goaltending has been, um, suboptimal and they suddenly can't score. If they just get average goaltending and average shooting percentages, they would have several more points. That dressing room has to be really frustrated. Oh, and given the talent they do have, their PP should be much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Amaru523 said: The Knights have a new problem now, it's called the Vancouver Canucks. They're a point behind with a game in hand. (Assuming they hold on to beat the Stars) If I did not greet you before, welcome. Vancouver is firing on all cylinders. They are on a 110 point pace since their coaching change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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