Ducky Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 If it is 5 x 8m, I think Chevy would do it but I think he will want more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) What teams have high cap hits they even want to dump? They’re all either key pieces or NMC similarly Buffalo has essentially nothing to trade. All it’s pieces are young promising players we need to stay patient with or pieces nobody wants. Edge case being a broken Miller. Any other player is a mistake to get rid of. I’m not even sure Okposo would accept a trade out if some team wanted him half off. About all we can do is accept a pick and a dump. Edited March 5, 2022 by triumph_communes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: What teams have high cap hits they even want to dump? They’re all either key pieces or NMC Flyers are going to trade Claude Giroux. Salary will probably need to be eaten. For one example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Flashsabre said: I like the sound of this. And by not retaining on Eichel, the Sabres have all their retain spots open. 1 hour ago, triumph_communes said: What teams have high cap hits they even want to dump? They’re all either key pieces or NMC similarly Buffalo has essentially nothing to trade. All it’s pieces are young promising players we need to stay patient with or pieces nobody wants. Edge case being a broken Miller. Any other player is a mistake to get rid of. I’m not even sure Okposo would accept a trade out if some team wanted him half off. About all we can do is accept a pick and https://www.capfriendly.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 It isn't just about teams with high cap that want to dump, teams with high cap who want to add are the key here. For example if the Sabres retain 50% and take a bad contract for next season, can they get a 2022 2nd? Can they get a Peterka level prospect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) The most exciting thing about this was the “hockey trade” part. First indication we’ve really seen from Adams that he wants to get better through the acquisition of real players, as opposed to draft-and-develop. Coupled with the cap space, it doesn’t just mean taking on cap dumps from contenders, it also means targetting hockey teams hitting the reset button. Teams like Vancouver, Montreal, Winnipeg and Philadelphia who are hard against cap and need to sell talent to buy cap space. For example, the Canucks will likely be selling Brock Boeser. Or the Habs might want to part ways with Joel Edmundson or David Savard. Real NHL hockey players that our cap space could allow us to buy without sacrificing much talent. Edited March 5, 2022 by dudacek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Curt said: That’s very good to hear. Use that cap space please. Yes please. Hockey trades AND weaponized cap space. 7 minutes ago, dudacek said: The most exciting thing about this was the “hockey trade” part. First indication we’ve really seen from Adams that he wants to get better through the acquisition of real players, as opposed to draft-and-develop. Coupled with the cap space, it doesn’t just mean taking on cap dumps from contenders, it also means getting real hockey teams hitting the reset button. Teams like Vancouver, Montreal, Winnipeg and Philadelphia who are hard against cap and need to sell talent to buy cap space. For example, the Canucks will likely be selling Brock Boeser. Or the Habs might want to part ways with Joel Edmundson or David Savard. Real NHL hockey players that our cap space could allow us to buy without sacrificing much talent. I know, right? It moved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 I’m not interested in Boeser. His cap hit will be too high for what he brings. JT Miller though😀 Sabres need a top 4 RHD, someone that can partner with Power long term. A top 6 forward that can add some grit and scoring. And we all know about the net. A goalie like a Francouz that can bring stability while the kids develop. With a couple savvy moves this offseason and with some health luck this team should be in a position to be consistently competitive next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: I’m not interested in Boeser. His cap hit will be too high for what he brings. JT Miller though😀 Sabres need a top 4 RHD, someone that can partner with Power long term. A top 6 forward that can add some grit and scoring. And we all know about the net. A goalie like a Francouz that can bring stability while the kids develop. With a couple savvy moves this offseason and with some health luck this team should be in a position to be consistently competitive next season. it’s all about contracts and opportunity cost. I think Boeser at 6/6 at 25 would be better than Victor Olofsson at 5/5 at 26. I also think Olofsson at 4/4 is better than Boeser at 7/7. The best target on the Canucks might actually be Garland. He’s got an Alex Tuch deal and he’s the same age. And he’s fast. I’m sure you’ve noticed how speed looks like it could be a defining characteristic of the team Adams is building. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Ducky said: If it is 5 x 8m, I think Chevy would do it but I think he will want more. My favorite posts, and they are increasing at unprecedented rate, is where someone responds to a post without quoting it, and the post ends up at the top of the next page with no indication of who or what they are talking about. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) Right, so the only thing of value we have is cap space to buy old vets from losers. thanks for the cap friendly link- my post didn’t already mentioned no winners have junk they want to dump. Edited March 5, 2022 by triumph_communes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, dudacek said: it’s all about contracts and opportunity cost. I think Boeser at 6/6 at 25 would be better than Victor Olofsson at 5/5 at 26. I also think Olofsson at 4/4 is better than Boeser at 7/7. The best target on the Canucks might actually be Garland. He’s got an Alex Tuch deal and he’s the same age. And he’s fast. I’m sure you’ve noticed how speed looks like it could be a defining characteristic of the team Adams is building. Good target. Don’t know what Vancouver’s intentions are with him, but he is on a good deal, he is an East Coast guy, and I think he is someone who is just primed to explode for a 70+ point season if he can get into a good situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: Right, so the only thing of value we have is cap space to buy old vets from losers. That’s about as narrow an interpretation as you could make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, dudacek said: it’s all about contracts and opportunity cost. I think Boeser at 6/6 at 25 would be better than Victor Olofsson at 5/5 at 26. I also think Olofsson at 4/4 is better than Boeser at 7/7. The best target on the Canucks might actually be Garland. He’s got an Alex Tuch deal and he’s the same age. And he’s fast. I’m sure you’ve noticed how speed looks like it could be a defining characteristic of the team Adams is building. Boeser’s qualifying offer is $7.5 which is why Vancouver wants to deal him. Garland would be a good target but what are you willing to move for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 Between now and the draft, I would like to see Adams: -Trade a away a couple UFA vets (50% retained) for draft picks/prospects. -Launder a couple players traded to other teams, retaining 50% of salaries, in exchange for draft picks/prospects. -Judiciously use a couple assets (picks, surplus prospect, carefully selected roster player cough*olofsson*cough) to bring in a long term player (F or RD). This player would need to be carefully selected. Someone with years of team control at a reasonable salary, age 25 or younger, who would be happy to come to Buffalo, and who the scouting staff identifies as a fit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Boeser’s qualifying offer is $7.5 which is why Vancouver wants to deal him. Garland would be a good target but what are you willing to move for him? Sure, but you can offer him a lesser figure in exchange for term and he should take it. Hes not getting $7.5 million with term from anyone as a 25-goal 50-point winger. It would be a 1-year thing. It’s not the qualifying offer so much for Vancouver as it is committing to him as a core player with their cap situation as Rutherford tries to get better and faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) How about getting a friggin’ goalie? Go get Varlomov. How about upgrading Pysyk and Hagg? Honestly I’m not really all that interested in adding a forward. Edited March 5, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 hour ago, triumph_communes said: Right, so the only thing of value we have is cap space to buy old vets from losers. thanks for the cap friendly link- my post didn’t already mentioned no winners have junk they want to dump. 1 hour ago, Weave said: That’s about as narrow an interpretation as you could make. The other more wonderful end of the spectrum is we have cap space to take on unwanted contracts as longs as they pay us in picks/prospects accordingly. Gotta pay the garbage man to haul it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 hours ago, dudacek said: The most exciting thing about this was the “hockey trade” part. First indication we’ve really seen from Adams that he wants to get better through the acquisition of real players, as opposed to draft-and-develop. Coupled with the cap space, it doesn’t just mean taking on cap dumps from contenders, it also means targetting hockey teams hitting the reset button. Teams like Vancouver, Montreal, Winnipeg and Philadelphia who are hard against cap and need to sell talent to buy cap space. For example, the Canucks will likely be selling Brock Boeser. Or the Habs might want to part ways with Joel Edmundson or David Savard. Real NHL hockey players that our cap space could allow us to buy without sacrificing much talent. David Savard, stay at home RHD, Cup winner. Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 Would the Sabres be willing to take Carey Price if he wants a change of scenery and Montreal wants the cap space to make a splash? 4 more years at a cap hit of $10.5. He would be a perfect mentor for Levi, UPL or Portillo. He can win some games as well and transition into the 1B in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, French Collection said: Would the Sabres be willing to take Carey Price if he wants a change of scenery and Montreal wants the cap space to make a splash? 4 more years at a cap hit of $10.5. He would be a perfect mentor for Levi, UPL or Portillo. He can win some games as well and transition into the 1B in a few years. NFW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, French Collection said: Would the Sabres be willing to take Carey Price if he wants a change of scenery and Montreal wants the cap space to make a splash? 4 more years at a cap hit of $10.5. He would be a perfect mentor for Levi, UPL or Portillo. He can win some games as well and transition into the 1B in a few years. Nope, unless I get Montréal's 2023 first unprotected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Flashsabre Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 hours ago, LGR4GM said: It isn't just about teams with high cap that want to dump, teams with high cap who want to add are the key here. For example if the Sabres retain 50% and take a bad contract for next season, can they get a 2022 2nd? Can they get a Peterka level prospect? How many players can a team retain salary on in deals in a season, 2 or 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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