WildCard Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: Definitely the most important two months we've had in a long, long time. Maybe ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, WildCard said: Definitely the most important two months we've had in a long, long time. Maybe ever. Agree. It’s going to be pretty wild. New coach. #1 Pick. Possibility of 3 top players being moved. Drama galore. Hold on tight and try to stay calm everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, WildCard said: Definitely the most important two months we've had in a long, long time. Maybe ever. This is where the fun begins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1401885932819734529?s=20 🍿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 *Yawn*. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 Gotta say those kinda posts from Dreger have a history of turning into a big heap of nothing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Curt said: Agree. It’s going to be pretty wild. New coach. #1 Pick. Possibility of 3 top players being moved. Drama galore. Hold on tight and try to stay calm everyone. The irony or is it a paradox??? that for many years Buffalo has been a nondescript and irrelevant franchise in the league that the hockey world ignores. This offseason the organization is going to be the most observed and commented on during the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Every young talent that they trade for will stand at the podium with Adams beside them with a cattle prod as they nervously blurt out, “I really want to be a Buffalo Sabre, I really want to be here. Process.” Terry slowly nods from the back of the room.😜 Edited June 7, 2021 by Flashsabre 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 44 minutes ago, dudacek said: Gotta say those kinda posts from Dreger have a history of turning into a big heap of nothing. I think today’s tweet is a heaping pile of nothing but is also likely a means of responding to Sabres fans who do nothing but respond to his tweets asking for news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 Paul Hamilton on wgr floated what I would call the worse case scenario trade although he seemed to think it was a grand idea (it is atrocious) Eichel for Jones, Merzlinkins, and 5th overall that's it. So 24 year old Jack Eichel for 26 year old jones, 27 year old Merzlinkins and a 5th overall pick. You want to look at the poster child for how to screw your team in trades, this is it. It makes the ROR trade look like a home run win for Buffalo in comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Paul Hamilton on wgr floated what I would call the worse case scenario trade although he seemed to think it was a grand idea (it is atrocious) Eichel for Jones, Merzlinkins, and 5th overall that's it. So 24 year old Jack Eichel for 26 year old jones, 27 year old Merzlinkins and a 5th overall pick. You want to look at the poster child for how to screw your team in trades, this is it. It makes the ROR trade look like a home run win for Buffalo in comparison. It only makes sense if you think that Jones is great, a borderline Norris candidate, (I don’t) and he agrees to an extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Paul Hamilton on wgr floated what I would call the worse case scenario trade although he seemed to think it was a grand idea (it is atrocious) Eichel for Jones, Merzlinkins, and 5th overall that's it. So 24 year old Jack Eichel for 26 year old jones, 27 year old Merzlinkins and a 5th overall pick. You want to look at the poster child for how to screw your team in trades, this is it. It makes the ROR trade look like a home run win for Buffalo in comparison. Yeah that's pretty terrible... replace Eichel with Reinhart and Risto, and now you're talking.... but I doubt CBJ moves on that. Edited June 8, 2021 by pi2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Yeah that's pretty terrible... replace Eichel with Reinhart and Risto, and now you're talking.... but I doubt CBJ moves on that. Even that's horrible, sorry I'm not a Jones fan at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Curt said: It only makes sense if you think that Jones is great, a borderline Norris candidate, (I don’t) and he agrees to an extension. Agreed with everyone: yuck and yuck. But what a steal by CBJ! If I'm CBJ GM, this is exactly where I start the talks. We've balanced out the contracts and given up 5OA for injured Eichel. I can be convinced to maybe add a piece, but why offer (from my perspective) it to start? It's on GM Sheevyn to do the bartering and the hard work. 1) Jones has to agree to a reasonable extension, 2) Either the trade takes place after the expansion draft OR Sheevyn moves Ristolainen at the exact same moment so as to not deal from an overstocked position, 3) Is Elvis the 1A or 1B to the next few seasons and how do I manage the goaltending situation, and most importantly 4) no deal without another 1st AND prospect. Who is CLB's prize? Foudy? meh. Chinakhov? I know nothing of their pipeline. Edit: Marchenko, after reading a little bit more. Edited June 8, 2021 by DarthEbriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) On 6/7/2021 at 6:05 AM, Curt said: Agree. It’s going to be pretty wild. New coach. #1 Pick. Possibility of 3 top players being moved. Drama galore. Hold on tight and try to stay calm everyone. How I’m going to react. Replace Roxbury with playoffs. Edited June 8, 2021 by SABRES 0311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Paul Hamilton on wgr floated what I would call the worse case scenario trade although he seemed to think it was a grand idea (it is atrocious) Eichel for Jones, Merzlinkins, and 5th overall that's it. So 24 year old Jack Eichel for 26 year old jones, 27 year old Merzlinkins and a 5th overall pick. You want to look at the poster child for how to screw your team in trades, this is it. It makes the ROR trade look like a home run win for Buffalo in comparison. It’s not a bad return. Jones is a top pairing D. Elvis can solidify the net and you get pretty good piece at 5. Jones is 1 year from UFA, that is the biggest issue. The problem is what is the grand plan here? Those guys kind of keep your team status quo and if you are moving Reinhart and Risto, what is coming back for them. If you are moving Eichel, Reinhart, Risto, you have the bite the bullet and rebuild. Bring in as many good young pieces and picks as you can. You can’t half and half it and have success. I would much rather an Eichel return like LA: Byfield, #8,+, Minn:Boldy, Rossi,+ or Chicago: Dach, Reichel,#10. Reset your young core and build around that. Add young pieces for Reinhart and Risto and have a lot to build around. The fans are fed up with how things are going, the arena will be empty regardless. Might as well bite the bullet and try to build it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Paul Hamilton on wgr floated what I would call the worse case scenario trade although he seemed to think it was a grand idea (it is atrocious) Eichel for Jones, Merzlinkins, and 5th overall that's it. So 24 year old Jack Eichel for 26 year old jones, 27 year old Merzlinkins and a 5th overall pick. You want to look at the poster child for how to screw your team in trades, this is it. It makes the ROR trade look like a home run win for Buffalo in comparison. If I were you, I would prepare to see something just like this from whatever team he goes to. A #1 center will never come back in the return so at best, they will get a good #2 C, a top winger and a 3rd piece that everyone is really going to hate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Paul Hamilton on wgr floated what I would call the worse case scenario trade although he seemed to think it was a grand idea (it is atrocious) Eichel for Jones, Merzlinkins, and 5th overall that's it. So 24 year old Jack Eichel for 26 year old jones, 27 year old Merzlinkins and a 5th overall pick. You want to look at the poster child for how to screw your team in trades, this is it. It makes the ROR trade look like a home run win for Buffalo in comparison. There’s a reason nobody should listen to Hamilton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Flashsabre said: It’s not a bad return. Jones is a top pairing D. Elvis can solidify the net and you get pretty good piece at 5. Jones is 1 year from UFA, that is the biggest issue. The problem is what is the grand plan here? Those guys kind of keep your team status quo and if you are moving Reinhart and Risto, what is coming back for them. If you are moving Eichel, Reinhart, Risto, you have the bite the bullet and rebuild. Bring in as many good young pieces and picks as you can. You can’t half and half it and have success. I would much rather an Eichel return like LA: Byfield, #8,+, Minn:Boldy, Rossi,+ or Chicago: Dach, Reichel,#10. Reset your young core and build around that. Add young pieces for Reinhart and Risto and have a lot to build around. The fans are fed up with how things are going, the arena will be empty regardless. Might as well bite the bullet and try to build it right. Seth Jones is not a top pairing defenseman on a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 4 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Paul Hamilton on wgr floated what I would call the worse case scenario trade although he seemed to think it was a grand idea (it is atrocious) Eichel for Jones, Merzlinkins, and 5th overall that's it. So 24 year old Jack Eichel for 26 year old jones, 27 year old Merzlinkins and a 5th overall pick. You want to look at the poster child for how to screw your team in trades, this is it. It makes the ROR trade look like a home run win for Buffalo in comparison. I'd be ok with that trade. Do I think anything the Sabres would be getting in return would be as good as Eichel at his best? Of course not....but I also think (and HOPE that I am wrong) that the offers for Eichel are going to be a lot less than what people on here want. He isn't expensive for his talent level, but he's not cheap. He may be damaged goods. It looks like he wants out of buffalo, I'm just not holding my breath for a trade much better than this. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Seth Jones is not a top pairing defenseman on a good team. Something must have happened to this guy. He was inside or just outside the top 10 D in the league according to most fans I read or interacted with not that long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 55 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Seth Jones is not a top pairing defenseman on a good team. Spoiler Alert: We are not a good team.😀 I wouldn’t like that trade for Buffalo for a number of reasons. I was just stating that it wasn’t a terrible return, just not right for what the Sabres should be doing if they move Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Something must have happened to this guy. He was inside or just outside the top 10 D in the league according to most fans I read or interacted with not that long ago The charts. The charts say he’s bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Seth Jones is not a top pairing defenseman on a good team. I would love for you to explain why without using charts. I am fairly confident NHL GMs do not agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: Something must have happened to this guy. He was inside or just outside the top 10 D in the league according to most fans I read or interacted with not that long ago I remember Jones being the next big thing when he was traded to CBJ. Wild to read he's basically Risto at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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