Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Huckleberry said: I think this puts Dhalin on the right side. Highly unlikely. Very uncommon in the NHL in top 4and almost non-existent on top pair. Why weaken your best player to aid a depth D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Norcal said: If that's the ask, Vegas should do it Vegas is a great team that can very easily add Eichel to turn their weakness into the best unit in the NHL, without subtracting much of anything from the roster that makes them great. It doesn't make sense for them to NOT do it. Karlsson - Eichel - Marchessault Pacioretty - Danault - Stone Janmark - Stephenson - Tuch Carrier - Kolesar - Janmark Theodore - Holden Whitecloud - Pietrangelo Martinez - McNabb I mean come on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Norcal said: If that's the ask, Vegas should do it And I'd be pissed, horrible for the Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: It's a nice little trade off for that bit of extra experience and skill he'd give us right now. Does anyone think Smith is the ask because Adams wants the asset he'll flip him for and isn't interested in the competitive upgrade Tuch would bring? Or is it just too much from Vegas I have to imagine that Adams would prefer Tuch, but they've come to this point, and if this truly is OUR ask it's our final ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: Good we can use a wall of Defense infrot of Ullmark. We re-signed Ullmark? When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Vegas is a great team that can very easily add Eichel to turn their weakness into the best unit in the NHL, without subtracting much of anything from the roster that makes them great. It doesn't make sense for them to NOT do it. Karlsson - Eichel - Marchessault Pacioretty - Danault - Stone Janmark - Stephenson - Tuch Carrier - Kolesar - Janmark Theodore - Holden Whitecloud - Pietrangelo Martinez - McNabb I mean come on And according to many posters, Murray and his tank will be responsible for us stocking that team to greatness. With McNabb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Vegas is a great team that can very easily add Eichel to turn their weakness into the best unit in the NHL, without subtracting much of anything from the roster that makes them great. It doesn't make sense for them to NOT do it. Karlsson - Eichel - Marchessault Pacioretty - Danault - Stone Janmark - Stephenson - Tuch Carrier - Kolesar - Janmark Theodore - Holden Whitecloud - Pietrangelo Martinez - McNabb I mean come on what's the total cap on that team? I have to think it's well over. They need to cut salary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: And according to many posters, Murray and his tank will be responsible for us stocking that team to greatness. With McNabb To be fair McNabb was a high prospect at the time though. We all liked him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I have to imagine that Adams would prefer Tuch, but they've come to this point, and if this truly is OUR ask it's our final ask. Our expectations for this trade have been beaten down for so long (zegras + 3OA was met with ehhhhhh) that we'll see a lot of pretty satisfied takes if the deal being proposed ends up happening Edited July 28, 2021 by Thorny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Digger said: what's the total cap on that team? I have to think it's well over. They need to cut salary. Just off the top of my head it's probably the difference between Smith and Eichel over the cap. I also used Janmark twice. Just now, Thorny said: Our expectations for this trade have been beaten down for this trade for so long (zegras + 3OA was met with ehhhhhh) that we'll see a lot of pretty satisfied takes if the deal being proposed is the deal. Yup. I was trading 10th place Hart finish Eichel at the beginning of all of this. I now understand that we will not be letting him rehab his value to that point before making the trade. We will be getting back enough for him that combined with our asset pool, while it's disappointing, I don't think it'll be franchise-crippling as we head to the next stage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, darksabre said: So this has to be the first confirmed trade package offer for Eichel, right? I wouldn’t call it confirmed. Kennedy isn’t someone I find reliable and has a history of nonsensical Buffalo takes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielor Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 I think it's safe to say this is Vegas' ask/hope, not Adams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Randall Flagg said: Just off the top of my head it's probably the difference between Smith and Eichel over the cap. I also used Janmark twice. Yup. I was trading 10th place Hart finish Eichel at the beginning of all of this. I now understand that we will not be letting him rehab his value to that point before making the trade. We will be getting back enough for him that combined with our asset pool, while it's disappointing, I don't think it'll be franchise-crippling as we head to the next stage Doesn't look like a ROR trade, for sure. That's probably part of the goal, actually. Oh, Jack was 8th for the Hart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Hague honestly makes a lot of sense, Vegas has a lot of money tied up on D now, i don't think they'd be able to give him the next contract he'll earn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 32 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Easy no for me. Their first is barely worth a damn thing and I’m skeptical about Hague’s ability to be anything more than a second or third pairing dman. So it’s basically Eichel for Krebs and two low-chance lottery tickets. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Dahlin, Power, Hague, Sameulsson, Johnson....Bryson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Miller, Jokijarju Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Randall Flagg said: Hague honestly makes a lot of sense, Vegas has a lot of money tied up on D now, i don't think they'd be able to give him the next contract he'll earn Hague and Hagg? What other similar phonetic names can we trade for? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Weave said: Hague and Hagg? What other similar phonetic names can we trade for? hughes, hughes and hughes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Hague Krebs a dump vet and a late first. Could be worse. Has better upside than a lot of other ideas and the ages doesn’t push out the rebuild 5 years Vegas gives up nothing immediately threatening cup runs for a few years. They can worry about the farm after cups Edited July 28, 2021 by triumph_communes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielor Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 If Vegas gets Eichel, they're a heavy cup favorite next year. That 1st is a high 2nd. This deal is missing 1 good piece. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Power and Hague, the 6’6 D Beasts!😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Puke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektorado Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, Digger said: I know we suggested Tuch who's a better player than Smith. Smith only has one year at 4.5, Tuch is signed for 5 years at 4.75. Maybe that's too long for Adams to have someone taking a spot from the younger kids. That's not much salary relief for Vegas. I would think they want to shed more salary from their roster. I like Krebs and Hague. How about the Sabres retain some of Jack's money this year and they throw in a 2023 3rd. Sabres won't be anywhere near the cap this year. I just want to get this over with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Thorny said: Get a third team included to get a chance at a better 2022 first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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