IKnowPhysics Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Getting a lot warmer. Smith: https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/33903/reilly-smith 30 year old LW/RW with 14G 11A 25P in 53GP on a down year (22G 17A 39P on an 82GP pace), but has recorded 0.72PPG over the last four seasons. $5M AAV with one year left on the contract. Player usage and possession stats look good as a good two-way forward, including even WOWY away from top linemates Marchessault and Karlsson. Smith has the best CF/60 among VGK forwards after those two. Krebs: https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/322178/peyton-krebs Krebs is the 2019 17th overall pick C/LW 5'11" that's been lighting up the WHL (13G 30A 43P in 24GP), leading the league in assists and points, and is poised to break into the NHL. His current NHLe is 44P in 82GP. Krebs is VGK's best prospect. Krebs has not yet burned a year of his ELC, which will last three more years until after 2023-24. Hague: https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/253977/nicolas-hague Hague is the 34th overall pick from 2017. 6'6" left-shooting physical two-way defenseman. 5G 12A 17P in 52GP and decent possession stats this season playing sheltered minutes for VGK. ELC expires at the end of the season. Hague had the best CA/60 and xGA/60 among VGK defensemen. 1st round pick Best guess in the 22-28 range. Definitely worthy of consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Back to Minnesota, would anyone be okay with Rossi (or Boldy), Dumba, Kahkonen and a 2022 1st? Or am I just dreaming. Edited July 28, 2021 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Vegas is the worst possible place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCSnyper Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Danault will sign in Vegas 6x6. No Eichel there, it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalonill said: Vegas is the worst possible place 2nd, the Rangers to me is worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOutsideChicago Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 This fascination with picks at the end of the 1st round sure is interesting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 I’ll echo the above: if that’s the ask, the Knights would be foolish not to take it. Smells more like the offer. And my god, does it resemble the Peca, Wilson and a 1st return for Mogilny. Hope it works out that well. Looks a lot like what I’ve been increasingly expecting. Disappointing for sure, but at least it would fill my minimum return of one blue-chipper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Look, Eichel is a bonafide Hart candidate when healthy. His health is a risk. Krebs reaching his ceiling is also a risk. Just as likely to be an issue. The risk there cancels out IMO - trading a player of Eichel's caliber for a prospect with Krebs projection is a massive downgrade, and I really like Krebs. Does a late first round pick, a not good roster player, and a reasonable D prospect bridge that gap? Of course not. Might be the best deal we see though. Urgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 We only need a second team to set off a bidding war. The Vegas offer is … ok. Not a home run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 I'm definitely not convinced that's the Sabres' ask. The Sabres don't leak, and other parties have an interest in leaking a "Sabres ask" lower than reality, not higher or matching reality 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Gatorman0519 said: We only need a second team to set off a bidding war. The Vegas offer is … ok. Not a home run. I thought buffalo is the one that gave that offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 How about Smith + hague + krebs + theodore + 2022 1st for Eichel and hagg ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, dudacek said: I’ll echo the above: if that’s the ask, the Knights would be foolish not to take it. Smells more like the offer. And my god, does it resemble the Peca, Wilson and a 1st return for Mogilny. Hope it works out that well. Looks a lot like what I’ve been increasingly expecting. Disappointing for sure, but at least it would fill my minimum return of one blue-chipper. The only way that worked was Peca and the 1st ended up Jay McKee but even so Mogilny was still great after he left here. Wilson wasnt all that great the best thing from him was shipping him to Florida for Rhett Warnerer. Edited July 28, 2021 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I'm definitely not convinced that's the Sabres' ask. The Sabres don't leak, and other parties have an interest in leaking a "Sabres ask" lower than reality, not higher or matching reality Yeah it seems a stretch this was leaked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: How about Smith + hague + krebs + theodore + 2022 1st for Eichel and hagg ? This is now (sorry, Thorny) too good to be true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 My guess would be Buffalo wants Peyton Krebs, Reilly Smith, Alex Tuch and the Vegas Knights 1st round pick, that's the only deal I'd accept from VGK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said: We only need a second team to set off a bidding war. The Vegas offer is … ok. Not a home run. 12 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I'm definitely not convinced that's the Sabres' ask. The Sabres don't leak, and other parties have an interest in leaking a "Sabres ask" lower than reality, not higher or matching reality I can see it being a Sabres leak. It gives other parties back door insight into how they might present a counter-offer to bridge the gap without the Sabres actually weakening their bargaining position by presenting it themselves. Guerin can say “I can pay that: Rossi Addison Rask and a 1st” Or Blake: Turcotte Faber Kempe and a first. Then Adams counters with “change Faber to Bjornfot and we’ve got a deal” or some such. Edited July 28, 2021 by dudacek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: The only way that worked was Peca and the 1st ended up Jay McKee but even so Mogilny was still great after he left here. Wilson wasnt all that great the best thing from him was shipping him to Florida for Rhett Warnerer. Krebs can certainly have a Peca-type ceiling. And Hague’s upside can be McKee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: How about Smith + hague + krebs + theodore + 2022 1st for Eichel and hagg ? I like the idea of adding theodore and shipping off a lefty 10 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: This is now (sorry, Thorny) too good to be true. Of course we have to reverse botterill the D in this trade, of course lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, dudacek said: Krebs can certainly have a Peca-type ceiling. And Hague’s upside can be McKee. Yeah I just don't like Hague, I see him as a Wilson aka bottom pair Dman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Vegas is the worst possible place They are definitely not. They have the prize in Krebs that should be at the top of any Eichel deal which is the most important piece. Tuch should have a ton of appeal here, as well. He’s a guy I could see wearing the C. 15 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: How about Smith + hague + krebs + theodore + 2022 1st for Eichel and hagg ? They’re not moving Theodore. He’s one of the best defensemen in the league and is under control on a very good contract. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hoss said: They are definitely not. They have the prize in Krebs that should be at the top of any Eichel deal which is the most important piece. Tuch should have a ton of appeal here, as well. He’s a guy I could see wearing the C. They’re not moving Theodore. He’s one of the best defensemen in the league and is under control on a very good contract. Tuch and Krebs should be the starting point imo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 I have a strong feeling Adams has a bidding war for Eichel well underway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielor Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Scottysabres said: I have a strong feeling Adams has a bidding war for Eichel well underway. That's the hope. And hopefully it's over tonight. I want to know. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Scottysabres said: I have a strong feeling Adams has a bidding war for Eichel well underway. Could be gas. What did you have for dinner? 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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