Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, dudacek said: I really wish they didn’t retire numbers so easily. 11 and 39 should be the only retired numbers for this franchise. Goalies should wear 1, defencemen 2-6, forwards 7-18, anyone can have 19-29, numbers above 30 are for backup goalies and minor league call ups. Get off my lawn. I agree completely with the first part. Certainly not with the second. 53 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: [Enego Montoya voice]: I do not think that word means what you think it means. I can’t think of a less cerebral cohort of people than pro athletes. It means exactly what I think it means. I know we all want to think they’re just dumb gladiators but that’s not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: It means exactly what I think it means. I know we all want to think they’re just dumb gladiators but that’s not the case. I gave up thinking that a long time ago. 'Athletes should just stick to sports' is one of the dumbest things going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Jersey number changes (without changing teams) I can think of: - Jochen Hecht from 71 to 55 - Jordan to 45 (12 doesn’t count, wasn’t his choice) - Kobe to 24 - Amar’e Stoudemire to 1 - Arvidsson to 33 - Bobby Ryan from 6 to 9 - Maurice Rocket Richard 15 to 9 after 2 years - Adrian Peterson tried changing to 24 with the Vikings but gave up when the league tried charging him $1 million Theres an endless number of players who have paid for jersey numbers. It’s not odd. We’re just programmed to find the worst even when there is none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Bobby Orr wore number 27 before donning 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Hoss said: It means exactly what I think it means. I know we all want to think they’re just dumb gladiators but that’s not the case. That’s not a paradigm I’m proposing (cerebrals/dumb gladiators). They may have lots of thoughts about many things (such as the number they want to wear) and they may even veer into being head cases at times, but pro athletes, as a cohort, are far from cerebral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 True occasionally you get an Alan Page, Rosie Greer, John Scott etc but by and large you end up with a Jim Kelly, a Jerry Korab and a Rasmus Ristolainin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, North Buffalo said: True occasionally you get an Alan Page, Rosie Greer, John Scott etc but by and large you end up with a Jim Kelly, a Jerry Korab and a Rasmus Ristolainin. And that latter group are Albert Einsteins compared to, say, a Ray Borque. Holy moley, that guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 In fairness, Borque is really an outlier. As is Ryan Miller. The large majority of those guys occupy a middle range that is decidedly non-cerebral, IMO. I mean, I think Eichel is a bright, savvy, funny guy. But cerebral? Not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Good lord... the turns this thread is taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 11 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: Regardless, players change numbers. For whatever reason they do it, I don't get the compulsion to psychoanalyze it. These guys don't shave during the playoffs, won't wash their gear out of superstition, have an identical game day routine right down to music, etc. The number is just another on the list of things that are weird, but overall not worth thinking much about. Wouldn't all or most of that argue for the oddity of Eichel changing his number? I can't get past the curiosity of what Eichel thinks the change is going to do for his game. 9 hours ago, Hoss said: Jersey number changes (without changing teams) I can think of: - Jochen Hecht from 71 to 55 - Jordan to 45 (12 doesn’t count, wasn’t his choice) - Kobe to 24 - Amar’e Stoudemire to 1 - Arvidsson to 33 - Bobby Ryan from 6 to 9 - Maurice Rocket Richard 15 to 9 after 2 years - Adrian Peterson tried changing to 24 with the Vikings but gave up when the league tried charging him $1 million Theres an endless number of players who have paid for jersey numbers. It’s not odd. We’re just programmed to find the worst even when there is none. So... no real precedent for what Eichel is doing? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: I can't get past the curiosity of what Eichel thinks the change is going to do for his game. What's so intriguing about a guy wanting to wear a lucky number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 I don't think Eichel thinks it'll actually change his game, he just says the first thing that comes into his head when people ask why he switched to a number he likes better when it becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, spndnchz said: [This is an automated response] This topic is no longer contributing positively to the community and therefore the discussion has been closed. Thank you. The what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, That Aud Smell said: The what now? Trying out some new buttons. Lol 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Hoss said: Jersey number changes (without changing teams) I can think of: - Jochen Hecht from 71 to 55 - Jordan to 45 (12 doesn’t count, wasn’t his choice) - Kobe to 24 - Amar’e Stoudemire to 1 - Arvidsson to 33 - Bobby Ryan from 6 to 9 - Maurice Rocket Richard 15 to 9 after 2 years - Adrian Peterson tried changing to 24 with the Vikings but gave up when the league tried charging him $1 million Theres an endless number of players who have paid for jersey numbers. It’s not odd. We’re just programmed to find the worst even when there is none. A few more '90's Sabres # changes. Peca & May swapped 10 & 27. Zhitnik went to 44 from 4 because he thought he was having bad luck w/ 4. Hannan moved to 17 from 14 when the full French Connection went up into the rafters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: I don't think Eichel thinks it'll actually change his game, he just says the first thing that comes into his head when people ask why he switched to a number he likes better when it becomes available. He didn't say he thought his game would improve, but why else would a superstitious hockey player who's happy with his game change his number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Just now, PASabreFan said: He didn't say he thought his game would improve, but why else would a superstitious hockey player who's happy with his game change his number? Because a number he likes better, and wanted in the first place but it was already taken, just became available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: He didn't say he thought his game would improve, but why else would a superstitious hockey player who's happy with his game change his number? Was he happy with his game? If he was happy with it, could he still not want to improve? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 I think we have to just let PA go here. He made his mind up on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: Because a number he likes better, and wanted in the first place but it was already taken, just became available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 That's too simple. Where's the Illuminati? The Space Lizards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 20 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: This might have been it! But I swear it was a player that didn't change franchises. Pavel Bure. Selanne also changed his number. It happens all the time, folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, PASabreFan said: Wouldn't all or most of that argue for the oddity of Eichel changing his number? I can't get past the curiosity of what Eichel thinks the change is going to do for his game. So... no real precedent for what Eichel is doing? Thanks. As mentioned, the Russian Rocket. Pretty comparable, a pretty good precedent. Switched from #10 to number 96 after 4 NHL seasons. Still with the Canucks at the time. Of course, Bure switch back to 10 after two injury riddled seasons donning 96. So hopefully Jack's history diverges from Bure's at this point. ? Edited July 9, 2018 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Justin Bailey, Nicolas Baptiste and Casey Nelson all changed numbers last year. There’s a pretty extensive precedent here. Both for star players and role players. I’m stoked to see 9 and the C on Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 23 hours ago, dudacek said: I really wish they didn’t retire numbers so easily. 11 and 39 should be the only retired numbers for this franchise. Goalies should wear 1, defencemen 2-6, forwards 7-18, anyone can have 19-29, numbers above 30 are for backup goalies and minor league call ups. Get off my lawn. The Knights should've used Roman numerals instead of numbers (Arabic). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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