WildCard Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Erik Karlsson had 5-5-10 in 45gp for Frolunda HC in the SHL during his first full year in the SHL his draft year Victor Hedman had 7-14-21 in 43gp for MODO in the SHL during his first full year in the SHL his draft year Rasmus Dahlin had 7-13-20 in 41gp for Frolunda HC in the SHL during his draft year. Karlsson's first 3 NHL seasons: 5-21-26pts in 60gp 13-32-45pts in 75gp 19-59-78pts in 81gp Hedman's first 3 NHL seasons: 4-16-20pts in 74gp 3-23-26pts in 79gp 5-18-23pts in 61gp Hedman really didn't break out until his 5th season, posting 13-42-55pts in 75gp Another comparison Dahlin has drawn is Drew Doughty. Doughty's first 3 NHL seasons: 11-29-40pts in 76gp 10-26-36pts in 77gp 6-16-22pts in 48gp (lockout) Honestly I'm expecting a Karlsson-like trajectory. First 2 seasons with good production, 3rd season becomes an All Star Edited May 4, 2018 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 I voted 60-82 games before he is top pair, but I really think there should be an option for season2 as that is when I think Phil takes the kids gloves off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 points in 10 games and then suffering the very contagious high ankle sprain. Jack Ankle, part 2 Bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 I voted 60-82 games before he is top pair, but I really think there should be an option for season2 as that is when I think Phil takes the kids gloves off. Good point. I added it, although I really hope you're wrong about it. I think the worst thing Phil could do would be to take it that slow with this kid. Throw him in IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) So much depends on if/when he takes over Risto's spot on PP1. I'll say that happens relatively early and go with 45 points in 75 games. BUT he'll be a minus player with a negative TRpm. Edited May 1, 2018 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Low 30s in points, playing safe minutes, showing his skill and poise every night. Ideally, a vet added like Hjalmarsson (if he can still play), Enstrom (if he can still play), or the like to be his Willie Mitchell or Brian Campbell. We COULD use Scandella, but I need Scandella munching hard minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 So much depends on if/when he takes over Risto's spot on PP1. I'll say that happens relatively early and go with 45 points in 75 games. Does he have to? Risto is very good on the point. Why not Okposo’s or O’Reilly’s? Add Casey to the mix and suddenly our PP2 gets interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 I would keep PP1 exactly the same, yes, even with the dreaded Okposo there. His shot woke back up at the end and they've all got the chemistry. But now we don't have to change the channel when PP1 leaves, with Tavares, Mitts, and Dahlin coming out. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Give me Dahlin in OT with Jack and Reino, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Give me Dahlin in OT with Jack and Reino, though. Jack - RoR/Mittelstatd - Dahlin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Pretty all over the place in the poll so far. Didn't expect that. Looks like none of us can agree on what to expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 10 - 30 ... high in that range, lets call it 29+ Yes. 2nd season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 5g 16a 21p No Calder He'll be on the top pair after 10 games. He won't stay there, but they'll try something after a sluggish start. Then they'll go back to protecting his minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ho-Chi-Sock Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 At this point I'm just waiting for him to suffer some gruesome, career-threatening injury at the Combine. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Hope he earns top line spot sooner, but am expecting it sometime in his 2nd year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 D men almost never get the Calder. 3rd season all star as mentioned seems reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Really curious why we can't come to some sort of consensus on what is supposed to be a Matthews/Eichel level talent. Is it because we haven't seen a lot of him? Because he plays in the SHL? Because he's a d-man? Because we suck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Curious as to what "top pair" means in this context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Curious as to what "top pair" means in this context. Not sure what you mean honestly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Really curious why we can't come to some sort of consensus on what is supposed to be a Matthews/Eichel level talent. Is it because we haven't seen a lot of him? Because he plays in the SHL? Because he's a d-man? Because we suck?That is probably accurate will know more after his first 10 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 The Buffalo Sabres are the 2019 Stanley Cup Champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 9g, 38a for Dahlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeEich Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Few things to take note of 82 game schedule, pre season games yada yada. More games them he's ever played. Might conditioning become a factor in the ladder part of the season? I believe he will come into camp I'm great shape but it will be far more hockey them he's used to. Smaller ice (pretty sure shl is on international ice?) Will also be a big adjustment, history has shown us especially for defensemen it is a factor. 6'2 180 pounds, clearly able to play with men but NHL is best of the best. Just turned 18 so there's a chance he comes into camp at 190+. His filling out process will play a role in his development, so it will be worth keeping an eye on. So many variables and mixed emotions, is probably why were having a hard time agreeing. I picked 10-30 but if 20-40 was an option that's where i would be. For what it's worth I think his attitude/demeanor in the dressing room will be as big for us as his on ice presence. The kid is captain material and if I was JBot I'd seriously be thinking about rolling 4 A's until he's ready for it. (Prior to winning the lottery I wanted to see Eichel C, I don't think he would take it well at all, and that's a big reason he maybe shouldn't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Tight battle between Casey and Dahlin for the Calder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Few things to take note of 82 game schedule, pre season games yada yada. More games them he's ever played. Might conditioning become a factor in the ladder part of the season? I believe he will come into camp I'm great shape but it will be far more hockey them he's used to. Smaller ice (pretty sure shl is on international ice?) Will also be a big adjustment, history has shown us especially for defensemen it is a factor. 6'2 180 pounds, clearly able to play with men but NHL is best of the best. Just turned 18 so there's a chance he comes into camp at 190+. His filling out process will play a role in his development, so it will be worth keeping an eye on. So many variables and mixed emotions, is probably why were having a hard time agreeing. I picked 10-30 but if 20-40 was an option that's where i would be. For what it's worth I think his attitude/demeanor in the dressing room will be as big for us as his on ice presence. The kid is captain material and if I was JBot I'd seriously be thinking about rolling 4 A's until he's ready for it. (Prior to winning the lottery I wanted to see Eichel C, I don't think he would take it well at all, and that's a big reason he maybe shouldn't get it. Really good point with the game total. The NCAA plays only 28 games (really thought it was more than this) and I distinctly remember Eichel talking about how difficult that transition was. The SHL plays 45 or so FWIW. Then again, Laine and Matthews didn't have a tough time playing more games. Far as the smaller rink, wasn't the WJC played on an NHL rink? Feel like they said in interviews he's played and dominated on smaller ice sizes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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