millbank Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 You want team to be cautious . Jack is the core player team will be built around . He has shown much this year, Hopefully he can return for last few games and end year in a high note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Jankle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Jankle?No. Just, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Not sure you guys understood my post - It's not about the 5% it's about the 100% chance that you draft in the top 4. Who cares! No one knows if the player at 4 or 5 will be better. Come on home, ill have supper waiting ;) For real, I hope Jack Ankle sticks hehe If it sticks, the Sabres are in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Who cares! No one knows if the player at 4 or 5 will be better. If it sticks, the Sabres are in trouble. I care, this draft has 4 surefire prospects. I want the Sabres to get one of them. Plus all 4 are NHL ready, the guy at 5 you will have to wait on for 2 years, if not more. I'm done with losing and adding young talent is the only way to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I care, this draft has 4 surefire prospects. I want the Sabres to get one of them. Plus all 4 are NHL ready, the guy at 5 you will have to wait on for 2 years, if not more. I'm done with losing and adding young talent is the only way to get there. Sounds to me like your looking for a bit more losing. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I care, this draft has 4 surefire prospects. I want the Sabres to get one of them. Plus all 4 are NHL ready, the guy at 5 you will have to wait on for 2 years, if not more. I'm done with losing and adding young talent is the only way to get there. They aren’t going to fall to 5th if they finish 2nd last. They are going to draft a player near the top. Say it with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 The hockey Spaghetti Monsters can lick my taint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) Sounds to me like your looking for a bit more losing. ;)Yep, about 26 more times They aren’t going to fall to 5th if they finish 2nd last. They are going to draft a player near the top. Say it with me. Tell the 2017 Avalanche that who fell from 1st to 4th and the Canucks who fell from 2nd to 5th. Out of curiosity, do you know the odds of finishing 2nd last and drafting 5th? Edited February 12, 2018 by Crusader1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) Yep, about 26 more times Tell the 2017 Avalanche that who fell from 1st to 4th and the Canucks who fell from 2nd to 5th. Out of curiosity, do you know the odds of finishing 2nd last and drafting 5th? But maybe 2nd last wins the lottery this year? Who knows. And Vancouver has the guy many think could be the player of that draft. - - - If you finish 2nd last, it’s about a 70% chance they draft 4th or better. Yep, about 26 more times Tell the 2017 Avalanche that who fell from 1st to 4th and the Canucks who fell from 2nd to 5th. Out of curiosity, do you know the odds of finishing 2nd last and drafting 5th? And when Eichel or O’Reilly or Dahlin goes down for 6 weeks again next year at some point, you’ll want a whole bunch more again. Edited February 12, 2018 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) But maybe 2nd last wins the lottery this year? Who knows. And Vancouver has the guy many think could be the player of that draft. - - - If you finish 2nd last, it’s about a 70% chance they draft 4th or better. And when Eichel or O’Reilly or Dahlin goes down for 6 weeks again next year at some point, you’ll want a whole bunch more again. Sorry, been burnt too many times to think the 70% will come through. Sure, if they are completely out of it and only 5 or 6 points from last. If you have both Dahlin and Eichel, plus the other prospects I expect to be on the roster next season, I seriously doubt they are in this position. If they are, the good news is that the top of the 2019 draft looks really good. Jack Hughes could be the best forward prospect since McDavid. Edited February 12, 2018 by Crusader1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickompositör72 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Tanking is a short cut. No respectable GM does it. Real GM's have an ego/confidence that tells them they can build a real team w/o tanking. Tanking would offend their dignity. XGMTM wanted to tank, because he's not a quality GM. Tanking is a shortcut. Naturally, he tried to take other shortcuts. The tank shortcut "worked," but his other shortcuts didn't. Very predictable. The Sabres picked Murray because TP wanted to tank, too. And XGMTM was the only guy willing to do it. That's what you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I don't agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Tanking is a short cut. No respectable GM does it. Real GM's have an ego/confidence that tells them they can build a real team w/o tanking. Tanking would offend their dignity. XGMTM wanted to tank, because he's not a quality GM. Tanking is a shortcut. Naturally, he tried to take other shortcuts. The tank shortcut "worked," but his other shortcuts didn't. Very predictable. The Sabres picked Murray because TP wanted to tank, too. And XGMTM was the only guy willing to do it. That's what you get. This is just bananas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 So now Eichel will be injury prone and hurt yearly...its always something with this crap franchise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 So now Eichel will be injury prone and hurt yearly...its always something with this crap franchise Ankle aids is the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Tanking is a short cut. No respectable GM does it. Real GM's have an ego/confidence that tells them they can build a real team w/o tanking. Tanking would offend their dignity. XGMTM wanted to tank, because he's not a quality GM. Tanking is a shortcut. Naturally, he tried to take other shortcuts. The tank shortcut "worked," but his other shortcuts didn't. Very predictable. The Sabres picked Murray because TP wanted to tank, too. And XGMTM was the only guy willing to do it. That's what you get. Kristen ShiltonVerified account @kristen_shilton Feb 10More Mike Babcock on #Leafs positive progress since he took over: "Well, we got Auston. But what if we don’t? I remember when we got to three [in the draft lottery], I was jumping up in the living room. When we got to one, tears. People don’t understand. You need real players." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Kristen ShiltonVerified account @kristen_shilton Feb 10More Mike Babcock on #Leafs positive progress since he took over: "Well, we got Auston. But what if we don’t? I remember when we got to three [in the draft lottery], I was jumping up in the living room. When we got to one, tears. People don’t understand. You need real players." Well I like old leather faces honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Tanking is a short cut. No respectable GM does it. Real GM's have an ego/confidence that tells them they can build a real team w/o tanking. Tanking would offend their dignity. XGMTM wanted to tank, because he's not a quality GM. Tanking is a shortcut. Naturally, he tried to take other shortcuts. The tank shortcut "worked," but his other shortcuts didn't. Very predictable. The Sabres picked Murray because TP wanted to tank, too. And XGMTM was the only guy willing to do it. That's what you get. Every team goes through bad seasons. Some manage to go longer without going through them and some manage to take less time. Some get lucky. Which Real GMs are you referring to? Any evidence to support the other assertions? So now Eichel will be injury prone and hurt yearly...its always something with this crap franchise I hope your bunker is solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 So now Eichel will be injury prone and hurt yearly...its always something with this crap franchise I can not look directly into this take. Incandescent. Ankle aids is the worst. I just sprayed coffee all over my office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Tanking is a short cut. No respectable GM does it. Real GM's have an ego/confidence that tells them they can build a real team w/o tanking. Tanking would offend their dignity. XGMTM wanted to tank, because he's not a quality GM. Tanking is a shortcut. Naturally, he tried to take other shortcuts. The tank shortcut "worked," but his other shortcuts didn't. Very predictable. The Sabres picked Murray because TP wanted to tank, too. And XGMTM was the only guy willing to do it. That's what you get. Eddie Johnston takes offense to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Tanking is a short cut. No respectable GM does it. Real GM's have an ego/confidence that tells them they can build a real team w/o tanking. Tanking would offend their dignity. XGMTM wanted to tank, because he's not a quality GM. Tanking is a shortcut. Naturally, he tried to take other shortcuts. The tank shortcut "worked," but his other shortcuts didn't. Very predictable. The Sabres picked Murray because TP wanted to tank, too. And XGMTM was the only guy willing to do it. That's what you get. I think Patty made that hire, and I don't think Patty was behind tanking, hence his departure. I'm not sure Murray knew what he was getting into, but he played along. For awhile. He said he didn't want a five-year rebuild and he tried to get the franchise out of the jingleweed ASAP. It didn't work well enough quickly enough. Also he called Kim a nasty word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Every team goes through bad seasons. Some manage to go longer without going through them and some manage to take less time. Some get lucky. Which Real GMs are you referring to? Any evidence to support the other assertions? I hope your bunker is solid. I hope your denial shields you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I hope your denial shields you Despite all proclamations, the sky is still where's been for thousands of years Mr. Little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I'm going to go out on a limb here... IMO Eichel's "laziness" will make him prone to these type of awkward falling injuries. By laziness, I mean poor posture on the ice. For guy with his size and strength, you'd think he'd be able to hold his ground but when he's not engaged, not ready for battle, just cruising out there... he puts himself into bad situations. This latest incident... if you watch it closely... instead of falling forward, or just dropping down to his knees... he falls backwards. Watching it in slow motion, there's no reason for him to fall backwards unless his weight was on his heels. His weight should've been on his toes, ready to engage the Bruin defender. Instead he has his weight on his heels, in a relaxed stance. Same thing happened with the Girgensons incident. His weight was on his heels, he fell backward awkwardly. When you're engaged in a net front battle your weight should be on your toes, giving you leverage against the defender and protecting you from falling backward. In both cases, IMO he's just too careless, not engaged, not ready for battle, leaning back on his skates like he's out for a public skate. Every second of every shift you need to be on your toes, ready to react and absorb contact. I don't think he's figured that out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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