Taro T Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: I expect plenty of enjoyable individual moments from those players. I just happen to think they're going to be, unfortunately, buried with some pretty bad team play. It's similar to the first post-tank season for me when I was excited to see Eichel and Reinhart as kids with O'Reilly and Kane as good vets, while still having very little expectation for the team in the standings. Only difference is this time Sam and Jack are the vets I want to watch, and Dahlin and Mittstadt are the kids. Ha! Fair. The boldedis pretty much where I'm at. I actually am very expectant that the '19-'20 season will be quite good. (Somewhere between Loafs results of the past 2 years.) But, between having little faith in Housley @ this point & the on-paper strength of the East, tossed in w/ the expectation that the D pairings will be pretty much brand new (though Scandella-Ristolainen will probably be eating more minutes than they should), my expectation is ~84 points. (Though would love to be under estimating them.) That '05-'06 team had many factors workingin their favor that this team will be lacking. 1st off, no Ruff. Ruff changed his coaching strategy to match his talent. Housley has not demonstrated this yet. Though there has been speculation that O'Reilly was a dressing room problem; that's not a given he was. Satan was DESPISED by his teammates and was absolutely addition by subtraction. The '03-'04 Sabres were one of the hottest teams in the league in '04 & the '04-'05 Amerks had a long playoff run. Not seeing any of those indicators w/ the guys coming in this season. (At least not many.) Maybe Hutton/Ullmark being similar to Biron/Miller, but IMHO Miller/Biron had a better pedigree & Miller won the job out of camp. Will actually feel better if Ullmark wins the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 14 hours ago, Taro T said: Maybe Hutton/Ullmark being similar to Biron/Miller, but IMHO Miller/Biron had a better pedigree & Miller won the job out of camp. Will actually feel better if Ullmark wins the job. I'm okay either way. If Ullmark is truly #1, that's awesome, but if he's an understudy for a year or even two, that's okay as long as Hutton is effective, and as long as Ullmark isn't just stagnating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 I see Ullmark as being the Biron comparable and someone like UPL being closer to the Miller mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, darksabre said: I see Ullmark as being the Biron comparable and someone like UPL being closer to the Miller mold. Agree on Ullmark. Unfortunately, I don't think we have a Miller in the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Somebody elsewhere laid out the fact that of the recent cup winners (say, since 2009) only the Kings and the Caps really had two established bona-fide top 4 right handed defensemen. Niskanen+Carlson, and Doughty+Voynov. On the other teams you were seeing Rundblad, old Lovejoy, McQuaid, guys like that as the second best righty. I'd always be happy to add another righty to our group, but I don't think it's the most important thing in the world. Especially if you have a guy like Dahlin who enjoys the right side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, darksabre said: I see Ullmark as being the Biron comparable and someone like UPL being closer to the Miller mold. Think you're right on Ullmark, unfortunately. And think the Sabres next Miller will, for the foreseeable future, be played by Sir Not-Appearing-in-This-Film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Are we going to win the Stanley Cup, nope. Are we going to make the playoffs, probably not but I'm ok with that as long as we see some vast improvement in play and don't see a repeat of last years train wreck. I'm very optimistic about a big improvement in play. An ESPN article http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/24119636/nhl-stacking-how-all-31-teams-improved-free-agency puts us as the 2nd most improved team in the offseason so far. That doesn't necessarily mean anything but the pessimistic outlook on this team by some here has me confused and I'm just as frustrated with the recent results as anybody. There's a bunch of if's on this squad but the addition of Dahlin should vastly improve the D and if Bogosian and McCabe give them a full season (between the 2) they have 4 NHL defensemen on the squad with Guhle-Pilut and some other young guys in the background. Casey isn't going to be ROR out of the gate but if he's the real deal, line 2 should be ok and say what you may about Sobotka and Berglund but they're legitimate 30-40 point producers on the 3rd line which them alone will give us 50 more points total than our 3rd line gave us last year. Playoffs maybe not but a big time improvement in play I believe we are in store for out of this team. The biggest question for me is can Phil H coach these guys up or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Only if it translated onto the Ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 The street is tilted, but he still looks a lot bigger than Willy. Who is the dude who spent too much time in the sun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Willy’s legs quads look bigger though and that may be the problem.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, North Buffalo said: Willy’s legs quads look bigger though and that may be the problem.. His arm quads tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, pi2000 said: His arm quads tho... Those are triceps and biceps, back of the arm triceps, front biceps.... guess you don't work out anymore... ? And yes they look impressive, now if he actually will use them for something.... hockey related that is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Kevin Bieksa says Buffalo and Arizona are talking with him. He wants to play one more year to gain US citizenship. He plays on our beer league team. IMO he'd be a good mentor for Dahlin, he's a solid dude. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Kevin Bieksa says Buffalo and Arizona are talking with him. He wants to play one more year to gain US citizenship. He plays on our beer league team. IMO he'd be a good mentor for Dahlin, he's a solid dude. I love the fact he’s on your bar league team lol He'd be a useful vet to have on a one year deal, gritty, good locker room guy and is a righty shot. I doubt his stats are great but he’s certainly the type of vet we’d want. Edited July 18, 2018 by dewookieen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, dewookieen said: I love the fact he’s on your bar league team lol His kid plays on the same team as another guys kid and he got him to come out and play most of the season for us. He's in fantastic shape, probably 5-8% body fat and strong, fwiw he still wears the old school garter belt and jock... ❤️ Anyway our jerseys are the old royal blue dark Sabres jerseys but with "Hounds" logo as the crest. We talked a bit about Buffalo and he's very familiar with the city and heard lots of good things from other players. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 That’s sick that he’s on your beer league team but I have zero interest in adding him until or unless bodies are moved out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Hoss said: That’s sick that he’s on your beer league team but I have zero interest in adding him until or unless bodies are moved out. What if he promises to Superman punch some Leafs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 We can’t trade Hunwick but we can bury him. We could trade Beaulieu or try him on LW We could deal McCabe for a LWer We don’t need to worry about Bogo’s spot since he’ll be out 35+ games as always anyway I’d take Bieksa or Orpik on a 1 year deal just to play a bit but more so to help Dahlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 If we want to add Bieksa, we may as well have kept Gorges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: If we want to add Bieksa, we may as well have kept Gorges. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute ... the Sabres may sign Gorges. Always will like him, as he waived to come to a team fresh off a ####, but not to Toronto. That is priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: If we want to add Bieksa, we may as well have kept Gorges. Now I'm confused, I thought he was joking............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Give Gorges a scouting job or D coaching job, but not as a player. I think Bieksa still has something in the tank. I think he skates pretty well but I'm not sure at this point if he is a step up on Hunwick. Also why can't Scandella mentor Dahlin. He has 455 games under his belt. That is plenty of experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, N S said: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute ... the Sabres may sign Gorges. Always will like him, as he waived to come to a team fresh off a ####, but not to Toronto. That is priceless. Yeah, and Moulson came back to the Sabres after getting traded away at the deadline. Just because they chose to come here doesn't make them all-stars; in fact the truth is closer to the opposite. At this point I want to see someone else in Gorges's roster spot, but I didn't really have a problem with him on a limited-use basis last year. He seemed particularly effective in shutting down McJesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Yeah, and Moulson came back to the Sabres after getting traded away at the deadline. Just because they chose to come here doesn't make them all-stars; in fact the truth is closer to the opposite. At this point I want to see someone else in Gorges's roster spot, but I didn't really have a problem with him on a limited-use basis last year. He seemed particularly effective in shutting down McJesus. I would bet my left nut this isn't true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, WildCard said: I would bet my left nut this isn't true I hope your right one is in good shape but that actually happened 2 years ago, not last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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