shrader Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 vegas would be dumb to do it. but no the talent difference does not seem enough to say no to that Looking at what I think, there really isn't a huge drop until in that 13-15 range. Necas, Petersson, Tippett, Suzuki could all come in that 6-12 area. There is little sense for Vegas to do anything that reduces the number of assets they have. Move a 4th and a 6th for a 3rd round, ok. But moving higher value pieces like first rounders doesn't make much sense. They have to build out an entire organization from scratch. That takes a lot of pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 A tough hit for the Eagles: Eeli Tolvanen, a likely first round pick tomorrow, has received a thumbs down from the BC admissions department. To AHL or back to the USHL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 A tough hit for the Eagles: Eeli Tolvanen, a likely first round pick tomorrow, has received a thumbs down from the BC admissions department. To AHL or back to the USHL? Gerbe got in and this kid couldn't? Not a great sign for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 funny tweet from Gerbe this week. Its his living room with 4 kids, 3 watching TV, one hitting a puck with a stick. Nathen wonders which is his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 There is little sense for Vegas to do anything that reduces the number of assets they have. Move a 4th and a 6th for a 3rd round, ok. But moving higher value pieces like first rounders doesn't make much sense. They have to build out an entire organization from scratch. That takes a lot of pieces. agreed. If they could walk away with Glass, Valimaki and Suzuki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I'll be happy whoever they take at #8. It will be a couple years before anyone of these guys sniffs the NHL (except for the top two). ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 To me I'm all for taking Tippet or Mittelstadt. Grab a defenseman with the other picks. I have more faith in Bob McKenzie than Kevin Devine. This is what bothers me with this organization. They should be heavily invest in scouting with the emphasis on these kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Mittelstadt scares me the most. I have visions of Connor Hurley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) I am bracing for Tippett. The way the draft falls and with a BPA philosophy it just seems likely. It would be my least favourite pick since Zagrapan. I do think Botterill will be trying to lever a trade down or up. Dropping two spots in the lottery moved the Sabres out of the top defenceman range. More importantly, the guy is an asset manager, and with an early second tier pick and an extra second rounder in a flat draft, he's in a good spot to make a move. Edited June 23, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 That's it, the Owen Tippett hate has gone too far! He's not my pick (that'd be Liljegren, or Mittelstadt if he's unexpectedly there), but in a draft without a slam dunk at all, let alone at #8, there's value in taking a great skater with the best shot. I know he doesn't play the style that many around here gravitate towards, but it'd be far from a bad pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 That's it, the Owen Tippett hate has gone too far! He's not my pick (that'd be Liljegren, or Mittelstadt if he's unexpectedly there), but in a draft without a slam dunk at all, let alone at #8, there's value in taking a great skater with the best shot. I know he doesn't play the style that many around here gravitate towards, but it'd be far from a bad pick. Offense only, skate fast, shoot fast, sniper. Oh, you can sign me right up. That's my favorite style of hockey. Defense be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 That's it, the Owen Tippett hate has gone too far! He's not my pick (that'd be Liljegren, or Mittelstadt if he's unexpectedly there), but in a draft without a slam dunk at all, let alone at #8, there's value in taking a great skater with the best shot. I know he doesn't play the style that many around here gravitate towards, but it'd be far from a bad pick. it would not be a bad pick because of the reasons you state. That's why I think there is a good chance we pick him. I'm just not a fan of selfish players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 it would not be a bad pick because of the reasons you state. That's why I think there is a good chance we pick him. I'm just not a fan of selfish players. ...you want to sign Kane long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 ...you want to sign Kane long term. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 ...you want to sign Kane long term. Asset management my friend :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 ...you want to sign Kane long term. Oh Snap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I think Tippett is going to be our pick, for whatever reason. Just a guess from what I've read. I've advocated for not drafting him, so I'll have to come around on him, I suppose. There's no better goalscorer in the draft than Tippett. The rest of his game sucks RIGHT NOW but he's 18 and that can change. He would be gold with eichel. Imagine eichel nylander Tippett in two years? In saying that, if Makar somehow makes it to 8 he's the pick and Ljengrin (spelling) is a strong possibility. He was a top 3 player heading into the year before Mono got him If Glass, Middlestadt, Liljegren, Vilardi, Heiskanen, Hischier, Makar, Patrick are on the board, and we take Tippett, I will go bat crazy. Tippett has no defense in his game and has boom or bust all over him. He reminds me of Kassian coming into his draft year, the premier "power forward". I don't buy it. I will take Glass, Liljegren, Valimaki, over this kid. Pass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Is Kevin Devine has been part of this organization over the last 3 administrations. He has been a key figure in the our drafting under Regier, TM and now Jbot. Our drafting during his tenure has been mediocre at best. Is he part of the problem? Don't be silly. The problem is Russ Brandon, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 To me I'm all for taking Tippet or Mittelstadt. Grab a defenseman with the other picks. I have more faith in Bob McKenzie than Kevin Devine. This is what bothers me with this organization. They should be heavily invest in scouting with the emphasis on these kids. They did? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 To me I'm all for taking Tippet or Mittelstadt. Grab a defenseman with the other picks. I have more faith in Bob McKenzie than Kevin Devine. This is what bothers me with this organization. They should be heavily invest in scouting with the emphasis on these kids. I don't. Not at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 If Glass, Middlestadt, Liljegren, Vilardi, Heiskanen, Hischier, Makar, Patrick are on the board, and we take Tippett, I will go bat ###### crazy. Tippett has no defense in his game and has boom or bust all over him. He reminds me of Kassian coming into his draft year, the premier "power forward". I don't buy it. I will take Glass, Liljegren, Valimaki, over this kid. Pass! ...I'm kinda rooting for Tippett now :nana: Of the players you listed, I'd be really surprised if Glass or Mittelstadt is actually there. Shocked in the case of Glass, really. Choice will probably be Liljegren, Tippett, or Valimaki. I think I take them in that order. Not saying I'd take him at 8, but what do you think about Suzuki? I'm increasingly intrigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I like Suzuki, I would take Suzuki over Tippett. There I said it. https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/14/nation-network-prospect-profiles-8-nick-suzuki/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I like Suzuki, I would take Suzuki over Tippett. There I said it. https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/14/nation-network-prospect-profiles-8-nick-suzuki/ Prefer Chevy instead but eh to each their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Chris Baker on the Instigators talking draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Summary when possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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