Thorny Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 ^ They are in our division, correct? And held a playoff spot last season? Interesting.... In seriousness, I don't think he'll miss a ton of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 This is a promising sign https://twitter.com/buffalosabres/status/905559196724338690 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 This is a promising sign https://twitter.com/buffalosabres/status/905559196724338690 Good find, awesome video. Never would have guessed they actually hand painted it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Per Friedman Sam Bennett signs 2 year 1.95 AAV deal with Flames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 TSN ranked their scoring predictions (top 300): http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-projected-top-300-scorers-1.848975 These honestly seem very realistic. They're very cautious, which is a good approach because I'm sure they are aware that some of those players are going to have huge unpredictable spikes in either direction, and rather than guessing which players do what they just lay some easy-to-believe groundwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 TSN ranked their scoring predictions (top 300): http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-projected-top-300-scorers-1.848975 These honestly seem very realistic. They're very cautious, which is a good approach because I'm sure they are aware that some of those players are going to have huge unpredictable spikes in either direction, and rather than guessing which players do what they just lay some easy-to-believe groundwork I wonder how they come to the conclusion that Burns will be the only one on that list to play all 82 games. It's kind of an odd little quirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 TSN ranked their scoring predictions (top 300): http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-projected-top-300-scorers-1.848975 These honestly seem very realistic. They're very cautious, which is a good approach because I'm sure they are aware that some of those players are going to have huge unpredictable spikes in either direction, and rather than guessing which players do what they just lay some easy-to-believe groundwork So if that is where Jack finishes after playing out his contract, is he worth $10 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 So if that is where Jack finishes after playing out his contract, is he worth $10 million? Interesting question and hard to defend. Ask yourself who ahead of Jack is worth more to their team long term; who would you give $10M to ahead of him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 So if that is where Jack finishes after playing out his contract, is he worth $10 million? Nope - The 70 point guys who got 10 mil (Toews, Kopitar) are captains of teams they won multiple cups with, and the guys who finished ELCs with low 70 points (or high in Drai's case) got lower (Draisaitl, Pastrnak, Tarasenko) Jack is banking on point per game. Cracking the 80 point barrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Nope - The 70 point guys who got 10 mil (Toews, Kopitar) are captains of teams they won multiple cups with, and the guys who finished ELCs with low 70 points (or high in Drai's case) got lower (Draisaitl, Pastrnak, Tarasenko) Jack is banking on point per game. Cracking the 80 point barrier. Toews and Kopitar are based on past performance, and Pasternak and Tarasenko are wingers though. Drasaitl is a good point though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) So according to TSN, Eichel's p/gp is going to go down this year? In a year where a young player usually breaks out? In a contract year? Healthy fully from the ankle? I don't buy it. Though I do like that they projected Eichel with a higher p/gp than Matthews.. :) Edited September 7, 2017 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 TSN ranked their scoring predictions (top 300): http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-projected-top-300-scorers-1.848975 These honestly seem very realistic. They're very cautious, which is a good approach because I'm sure they are aware that some of those players are going to have huge unpredictable spikes in either direction, and rather than guessing which players do what they just lay some easy-to-believe groundwork The thing I disagree with is their obsession with Toronto racking up points while the Sabres only have Eichel, Okposo and O'Reilly(barely) over 50 points. They seem to have this fervent belief that Matthews is better and every bloody stat projector tends to play that way. Matthews being just better than Eichel. Just compare this: Toronto: Matthews 73pts in 80g Nylander 67pts in 80g Marner 59pts in 78g Kadri 54pts in 78g Van Riemsdyk 50pts in 76g Buffalo: Eichel 72pts in 78g O'Reilly 56pts in 76g Okposo 52pts in 68g Not only do they give Toronto the benefit of the doubt they will have freakish health two years in a row but that Okposo will miss 14 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Ya, if these projections come true...we won't be sniffing the playoffs. Okposo missing 14 games..I hope not. The Reinhart projection is blah. 20 G, 27 A, 47 points. So absolutely no growth from last year? Status quo with Ristolainen, too? Kane's goals and points going down? Add in Eichel's projected pace going down, too, and it looks like they account very little for the reasonable likelihood of growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 The thing I disagree with is their obsession with Toronto racking up points while the Sabres only have Eichel, Okposo and O'Reilly(barely) over 50 points. They seem to have this fervent belief that Matthews is better and every bloody stat projector tends to play that way. Matthews being just better than Eichel. Just compare this: Toronto: Matthews 73pts in 80g Nylander 67pts in 80g Marner 59pts in 78g Kadri 54pts in 78g Van Riemsdyk 50pts in 76g Buffalo: Eichel 72pts in 78g O'Reilly 56pts in 76g Okposo 52pts in 68g Not only do they give Toronto the benefit of the doubt they will have freakish health two years in a row but that Okposo will miss 14 games. But that is essentially how it went last year. In making safe predictions they tried to mirror what has literally happened. Remember, toronto's sixth best scorer last year beat out every Sabre but Eichel (and he finished one single point behind Jack). They gave Toronto downgrades in scoring while actually upgrading Okposo's point total. Toronto deserves benefit of the doubt relative to the Sabres because they had 6 guys who scored at or higher than the level of our best guy in the most recent sample size we have to work with and make predictions from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 I'm sure they like to have a little fun by having Crosby at 87 points. Since they don't give any hint at where the numbers come from, I'm going to go ahead and assume that was intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 So if that is where Jack finishes after playing out his contract, is he worth $10 million? Yep, scoring is contextual. Eichel scores near Draisaitl only because of his situation. These are some comparables, he is well ahead of each, except tied with Matthews, leaving him tied for 3rd among players drafted since 2005 (that's all I bothered to do data for) Toews Kane Draisaitl Pastrnak Stamkos Tavares Matthews Tarsenko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Well, this is cool. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/new-rule-adds-pressure-nhl-coaches-asking-offside-challenge/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Well, this is cool. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/new-rule-adds-pressure-nhl-coaches-asking-offside-challenge/ If they're going to stick with the challenge for the long run, then I like this. Adopt a more uniform definition of "goalie interference" for those reviews and use these new rules and leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 I enjoy this tweak, I'd rather see it gone totally, but this is a step in the right direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Well, this is cool. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/new-rule-adds-pressure-nhl-coaches-asking-offside-challenge/ Just get rid of the challenge aspect and automatically review all goals (for offsides, high stick, etc) upstairs. Should be quick and easy with today's tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Georege Parros, head of player safety? Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Well, this is cool. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/new-rule-adds-pressure-nhl-coaches-asking-offside-challenge/ Also in there is a link about trying to change the draft age from 18 to 19. Let's ignore for a second whether or not you think it's a good idea. How exactly could they roll out this change? Whenever that happens, you wind up with a year with basically no draft prospects. All of those top 19 year olds would have been drafted the year before and no new pool of prospects is added. The only players remaining are the ones who were not drafted the year before. This, of course, would be the year that the Sabres would win the draft lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Georege Parros, head of player safety? Ugh. This must be some kind of joke, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Also in there is a link about trying to change the draft age from 18 to 19. Let's ignore for a second whether or not you think it's a good idea. How exactly could they roll out this change? Whenever that happens, you wind up with a year with basically no draft prospects. All of those top 19 year olds would have been drafted the year before and no new pool of prospects is added. The only players remaining are the ones who were not drafted the year before. This, of course, would be the year that the Sabres would win the draft lottery. Entry-Level Contracts would be interesting. It would also play havoc with Junior and AHL teams. NCAA would love it, which means I hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 You guys are being unfair to George. Just because he was a fighter doesn't mean he's not thoughtful, intelligent and capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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