kas23 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 @JeremyWGR Interesting note from Robin Lehner in speaking with @pham1717… made clear he had no problem with the defensemen, but the way they played. @JeremyWGR The way Lehner said it, the emphasis, sounds to me that he’s another one that’s very happy about the coaching change. That is an interesting note, especially with him fussing about players doing their own thing and not following the system. Plus, our defenseman this coming year will be attacking. I'm not sure, but is that really a thing goalies want? I suppose an opposing team can't score a goal when the puck's in their zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted August 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 I listened to Lehner's Interview and he sounded upset that the forwards did not play defense. He specifically mentioned last season's playoff teams were all five guys would come back into the defensive zone and play D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 I listened to Lehner's Interview and he sounded upset that the forwards did not play defense. He specifically mentioned last season's playoff teams were all five guys would come back into the defensive zone and play D. Something we bitched about here to no end. Our forwards provided zero puck support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 So is Lehner being an asshat or a leader here? These things always confuse me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 So is Lehner being an asshat or a leader here? These things always confuse me. Not currently either. I don't think pointing out something obvious is leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 So is Lehner being an asshat or a leader here? These things always confuse me. Sounds like appropriate leadership to me. Supported the coach he had at the time even though he didn't like the system. That is what a real pro does in any profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) https://twitter.com/Matt_Bove/status/908322054042255362 Oh Phil, you do know how to make me blush. Edited September 14, 2017 by sabills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 https://twitter.com/Matt_Bove/status/908322054042255362 Oh Phil, you do know how to make me blush. Not sure there can even be a better answer than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 "We wanna be fast and aggressive." God, I hope he can make it work. OTOH, there's only so much a team can do against the 1-3-1, or even the 1-4, or whatever -- McDavid recently said as much. At a minimum, at least we're not hearing about the need to get the opposing D to turn around and then win battles on "small ice." Christ -- Dreary Dan and FGMTM were really of a mind on that, weren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 "We wanna be fast and aggressive." God, I hope he can make it work. OTOH, there's only so much a team can do against the 1-3-1, or even the 1-4, or whatever -- McDavid recently said as much. At a minimum, at least we're not hearing about the need to get the opposing D to turn around and then win battles on "small ice." Christ -- Dreary Dan and FGMTM were really of a mind on that, weren't they? I'm almost positive DD said that quote as well, literally word for word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'm almost positive DD said that quote as well, literally word for word Shush, life is short, let me enjoy what little I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'm almost positive DD said that quote as well, literally word for word But DD was a once-fired, self-proclaimed head coaching savant who only won a Cup because he inherited a stacked team (that he subsequently drove into the ground). Housley is a pretty universally acclaimed up-and-comer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'm almost positive DD said that quote as well, literally word for word Yeah but Housley is a Hall of Famer and DDB was a 4th line grinder who listens to disco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'm almost positive DD said that quote as well, literally word for word fair point. the difference being: we now know what that wound up translating into for Bylsma. with housley, there is hope that it means what he says. additionally, bylsma's pronouncements were also accompanied with his talk of chip and chase and small ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Also Housley was assistant coach for a team that plays aggressive as . So it's easy to be hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 fair point. the difference being: we now know what that wound up translating into for Bylsma. with housley, there is hope that it means what he says. additionally, bylsma's pronouncements were also accompanied with his talk of chip and chase and small ice. Every team in the NHL wants to play that way. Have you ever heard a coach say... "We want to play a slow and passive game, lulling them to sleep so we can sneak a few pucks by them". Can Housley get everyone to buy in? Will Kane cover for a rushing Risto? What about Eichel, do you see him hanging back so McCabe can spend some time below the goal line? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Every team in the NHL wants to play that way. Have you ever heard a coach say... "We want to play a slow and passive game, lulling them to sleep so we can sneak a few pucks by them". Can Housley get everyone to buy in? Will Kane cover for a rushing Risto? What about Eichel, do you see him hanging back so McCabe can spend some time below the goal line? I don't know. Not true. Our former coach talked about limiting chances and dumping the puck in and retreiving it. He almost never said he wanted to attack as a unit and keep the pressure up. I will agree, all coaches talk about taking away time and space. Bylsma system did not do that. He actively gave up the blueline and Nashville's defense we know did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Not true. Our former coach talked about limiting chances and dumping the puck in and retreiving it. He almost never said he wanted to attack as a unit and keep the pressure up. I will agree, all coaches talk about taking away time and space. Bylsma system did not do that. He actively gave up the blueline and Nashville's defense we know did not. Nothing pissed me off more hearing Blysma speak to the media game in and game out talking about how much more talented the other team was and how they needed to be contained. The vibe he gave off in pre-game interviews sounded timid and scared and just reeked of a loser mentality. Ugh, good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Nothing pissed me off more hearing Blysma speak to the media game in and game out talking about how much more talented the other team was and how they needed to be contained. The vibe he gave off in pre-game interviews sounded timid and scared and just reeked of a loser mentality. Ugh, good riddance.Seriously. A team with Eichel, O'Reilly, Risto, Okposo, Kane, and Reinhart has to worry about stopping the other team instead of SCORING GOALS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Bylsma absolutely talked about pressuring opponents, pushing the pace of play, and attacking. We literally drooled over it, coming out of the tank. All coaches sound good when they're hired, otherwise they wouldn't have been hired. "That said, I absolutely love the style of play he's preaching: fast, aggressive, pressure. It's everything I've ever wanted from an aesthetic perspective." This was TrueBlueGED a month into Bylsma's first season as Sabres coach. And that's not to pick on True. We all said stuff like that, but that's the quote I saw right away and that's exactly what's going on here. Either our optimism is right or we look back and say "OMG Phil was horrible. his strategy was never going to work, this new guy though, he's going to be so much better". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 https://twitter.com/Matt_Bove/status/908322054042255362 Oh Phil, you do know how to make me blush. This is why he was my top choice. This system is going to look an awful like one that we're familiar with and that I loved. I hope the G can stand up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 This is why he was my top choice. This system is going to look an awful like one that we're familiar with and that I loved. I hope the G can stand up to it. G = goalie? And, yes. I think there's a chance the Sabres have to endure some growing pains. I just hope they stick with it and see it through, rather than retreat to being a passive lackluster team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 G = goalie? And, yes. I think there's a chance the Sabres have to endure some growing pains. I just hope they stick with it and see it through, rather than retreat to being a passive lackluster team. Yeah G is goaltendinng in general, because I don't think Lehner is going to play all 82. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Yeah G is goaltendinng in general, because I don't think Lehner is going to play all 82. If he did that would be quite a feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Bylsma absolutely talked about pressuring opponents, pushing the pace of play, and attacking. We literally drooled over it, coming out of the tank. All coaches sound good when they're hired, otherwise they wouldn't have been hired. "That said, I absolutely love the style of play he's preaching: fast, aggressive, pressure. It's everything I've ever wanted from an aesthetic perspective." This was TrueBlueGED a month into Bylsma's first season as Sabres coach. And that's not to pick on True. We all said stuff like that, but that's the quote I saw right away and that's exactly what's going on here. Either our optimism is right or we look back and say "OMG Phil was horrible. his strategy was never going to work, this new guy though, he's going to be so much better". Actions do indeed speak louder than words. Sure, DDB said that but did he do that? No. He did not and that's why we hate them. HCPH has the benefit of the doubt. He's saying that so we should take his word for it. If in 6 months the on ice product does not reflect that we can then take out the pitchforks, hell, we don't even have to sharpen them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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