pi2000 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Reinhart, Baptiste for Letang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Reinhart, Baptiste for Letang No, Letang while great is a walking cast at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) Here's an interesting look at the expansion-related defenceman market: http://thehockeywriters.com/expansion-draft-trade-targets-defencemen/ Edited May 21, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Thanks for postng that one dudacek. Very good breakdown. It does sound like JBott will be able to acquire a decent defenseman if he's so inclined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Thanks for postng that one dudacek. Very good breakdown. It does sound like JBott will be able to acquire a decent defenseman if he's so inclined. Nice list. However, he better be inclined. This maybe the best opportunity ever to fix the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 one of our 2nd round picks for Manson. He should fit in our #5 - 6 spot. Our 1st round pick + prospect for Brodin role with Brodin - Risto McCabe - Antipin (wonder if he plays left D or not still though. ) Guhle - Manson Bogo/Gorges ( will see what Vegas does here, not much faith though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Thanks for postng that one dudacek. Very good breakdown. It does sound like JBott will be able to acquire a decent defenseman if he's so inclined. Interesting Washington's Nate Schmidt might be available. Thought he was one of DC's best puck carrying defensemen in the playoffs and seemed to come into his own. Have no idea of his age or contract, but interesting thought for the Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Interesting Washington's Nate Schmidt might be available. Thought he was one of DC's best puck carrying defensemen in the playoffs and seemed to come into his own. Have no idea of his age or contract, but interesting thought for the Sabres. Yes please. Him, Antipin, maybe one other small addition like Russell, and a decent sized trade would make this defense...okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Can't imagine Washington parts with Schmidt, but I'd love to add him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Can't imagine Washington parts with Schmidt, but I'd love to add him.Me neither, but they have a lot of forwards to protect so I guess, but seriously, if available, I'd give up the 8th pick for him in a heart beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Me neither, but they have a lot of forwards to protect so I guess, but seriously, if available, I'd give up the 8th pick for him in a heart beat.What? We're talking Nate Schmidt right? Hell no do I give the 8th overall pick for him, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Me neither, but they have a lot of forwards to protect so I guess, but seriously, if available, I'd give up the 8th pick for him in a heart beat. More diplomatic Liger: I do not. Schmidt is the type of guy you bring in as a #5 with some reasonable hope he can emerge in a top-4 role. The #8 pick is in play for me, but only for an established top-4. That's not Schmidt IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Fair enough on 8, but Schmidt is emerging, just saying make a deal. Trade a young forward, whatever... make it happen is all im saying He and Ghule would be a good future 2nd pair imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Muzzin for 13th overall, Petan and Dano. or Ryan Murray for 13th overall and Petan. one of our 2nd round picks for Manson. He should fit in our #5 - 6 spot. Our 1st round pick + prospect for Brodin role with Brodin - Risto McCabe - Antipin (wonder if he plays left D or not still though. ) Guhle - Manson Bogo/Gorges ( will see what Vegas does here, not much faith though) There is no way in hell anyone is getting Manson for a 2nd....I'd give our 13th for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Muzzin for 13th overall, Petan and Dano. or Ryan Murray for 13th overall and Petan. There is no way in hell anyone is getting Manson for a 2nd....I'd give our 13th for him. Bottom pairing D in anaheim though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Bottom pairing D in anaheim though. It's interesting how metrics change things. I measure the defenseman's 'number' by the strength of the opponents PP minutes. Using that metric, Manson only trails Depres in 5-5 play among defensemen. Looking at their team, it doesn't really look like Anaheim tries to match defensemen to the opponent's top players, but they do match forwards. At least among the first two pairs. They try to hide Bieska, Theodore, and Montour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) Fair enough on 8, but Schmidt is emerging, just saying make a deal. Trade a young forward, whatever... make it happen is all im saying He and Ghule would be a good future 2nd pair imo. He's 26 in July. This season I would argue to be within 10% of his ceiling. So that means he's 4/5 guy. You don't spend an 8th overall pick for that. My point is he isn't emerging. What you see now is roughly what you will get. Risto is emerging. Schmidt is what he is. Edited May 27, 2017 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) He's 26 in July. This season I would argue to be within 10% of his ceiling. So that means he's 4/5 guy. You don't spend an 8th overall pick for that. My point is he isn't emerging. What you see now is roughly what you will get. Risto is emerging. Schmidt is what he is. I am fine not spending the 8th pick on him, but one could argue he finally got his chance with Washington and shined, especially in the playoffs. Get him for as cheap as possible but based on what I saw he is more a 3-4 guy and serviceable 2 in a pinch. He was one of DCs best puck moving defensemen during the playoffs. As we have seen some of these guys just need the right opportunity to show what they can do. I say get him. Edited May 27, 2017 by North Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) I like Orlov a lot more than Schmidt. From what I remember, Orlov was the best Caps D-man at holding the puck and creating offense in the playoffs. Just checked, Orlov was outscored by Schmidt, Niskanen, Shattenkirk, and Carlson in the playoffs, but they were all pretty close. I just remember a Caps defense that rushed plays and forced the point shot instead of working to get more dangerous chances. Orlov stood out to me as the D-man that consistently made good decisions in the O-zone. Edited May 27, 2017 by qwksndmonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 I like Orlov a lot more than Schmidt. From what I remember, Orlov was the best Caps D-man at holding the puck and creating offense in the playoffs. Just checked, Orlov was outscored by Schmidt, Niskanen, Shattenkirk, and Carlson in the playoffs, but they were all pretty close. I just remember a Caps defense that rushed plays and forced the point shot instead of working to get more dangerous chances. Orlov stood out to me as the D-man that consistently made good decisions in the O-zone. Orlov yes please but doubt Caps let him go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Orlov yes please but doubt Caps let him go..Ah yeah, he's an RFA. Shoot. Maybe the Caps wont have room for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 When do the caps think about a mini teardown? I mean they aren't built for the cup, they're close, but something has gotta give. Maybe we have something to offer that fits their vision and allows us to take a Dman from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 When do the caps think about a mini teardown? I mean they aren't built for the cup, they're close, but something has gotta give. Maybe we have something to offer that fits their vision and allows us to take a Dman from themI doubt they want to weaken their D. If I was the Caps I'd be trying to trade Ovi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 I doubt they want to weaken their D. If I was the Caps I'd be trying to trade Ovi.I don't follow them closely enough.... Where is their weakness, where do they fall short in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 I don't follow them closely enough.... Where is their weakness, where do they fall short in the playoffsThey don't really have a weakness on paper. I think Backstrom is the true gem and trading Ovi would be the chemistry shake-up that they need, not to mention the return would be pretty dang good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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