Taro T Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 This is why we should sign Jack to a three-year $20-million bridge deal now, then and eight-year $80-million extension before he gets to UFA Nah. Don't jerk him around w/ a bridge. Front load that 2026 contract to whatever extent the next CBA allows so that 2031's version of the Yotes can take the contract off your hands and have $7MM/yr of already paid out money counting towards the cap. Sabres get him through ~34 years old & then he's cap relief for Seattle. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) Agreed--defensemen usually age better than forwards. And he's such a smooth skater, I think he'll be fine. Still don't want to get near the $7M+ some thing he'll get. Can segue this into Eichel's contract....if he gets 8 years, he'll be up for a new deal at 29. That's a horrible age for a forward contract, from the team perspective. We'll almost certainly be paying for past performance that future performance will not match for the majority of the deal. Atleast dudacek will be happy :P Edited June 29, 2017 by Derrico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 This is why we should sign Jack to a three-year $20-million bridge deal now, then and eight-year $80-million extension before he gets to UFA What makes you think he'll sign a 3 year deal? I'm sure his agent would advise against it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDays06 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 I want vanek back bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 I want vanek back bad. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDays06 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Sign him to a 3 year deal. He can score 50 pts a year and give the young guys some pointers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Sign him to a 3 year deal. He can score 50 pts a year and give the young guys some pointersPointers on what? Vanek face? Gambling? Losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 In the first 30-35 games last year, the only NHL player to have more points per 60 minutes (it might have been total, not ES) than Vanek was Crosby. Just a fun fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Yes. I would much rather see Vanek on Eichel's wing than Evan Rodriguez. Vanek - EICH - Reinhart? Yes, please. Plus your 2nd Powerplay is: Vanek - Larsson - Kane Bayloo - Antipin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDays06 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Show me right now a free agent who can put up 48 pts for under 3 mil????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 The appeal for me with Vanek is he's cheap, he's still got plenty in the tank, and he's a much smarter player than Kane. I think Jack needs someone to connect with who is heady. Kane isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDays06 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) The appeal for me with Vanek is he's cheap, he's still got plenty in the tank, and he's a much smarter player than Kane. I think Jack needs someone to connect with who is heady. Kane isn't. Right on Edited June 29, 2017 by EICH15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Any interest in Brian Boyle, if we're keeping Sam at wing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Any interest in Brian Boyle, if we're keeping Sam at wing?Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Pointers on what? Vanek face? Gambling? Losing? This made me laugh. The appeal for me with Vanek is he's cheap, he's still got plenty in the tank, and he's a much smarter player than Kane. I think Jack needs someone to connect with who is heady. Kane isn't. I can't deny this, either. Who doesn't like a good redemption story? And I saw Vanek's quotes re Mittlestadt - a fellow Gopher to be. That could be good, too, somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 The new CBA signed after a two year lockout should have some compliance buyouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 The new CBA signed after a two year lockout should have some compliance buyouts But like 1 compliance buyout every 3 years or something. I think teams that can't manage the cap and suck helps make the offseason more interesting and I would hate to see everyone just be able to spend their problems away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 This from Chad Dominicis Not saying it's 100% going to happen but don't be surprised if Brian Boyle ends up with the #Sabres. Fits the bottom six need at forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Can Boyle skate and play at a 3rd line level on the 4th line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 This from Chad Dominicis Not saying it's 100% going to happen but don't be surprised if Brian Boyle ends up with the #Sabres. Fits the bottom six need at forward Can Boyle skate and play at a 3rd line level on the 4th line? Immediate upgrade on the bottom 6. We've talked about improving the bottom 6... well, at least I have anyway... in order for this team to take the next step, they need to cut down on shot attempts against. They need better defensive minded buys on the bottom 6 who know how to defend in their own end, block shots, take away passing lanes, generate turnovers. The existing group are top 6 leftovers from the tank years. A guy like Boyle would be perfect to offload ROR minutes on the PK, defensive zone draws, late game situational stuff, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 I would imagine that Boyle is actually better than LarssonI have no clue what kind of term he wants though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 The Leaf's reached out to Thornton... because reasons I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Immediate upgrade on the bottom 6. We've talked about improving the bottom 6... well, at least I have anyway... in order for this team to take the next step, they need to cut down on shot attempts against. They need better defensive minded buys on the bottom 6 who know how to defend in their own end, block shots, take away passing lanes, generate turnovers. The existing group are top 6 leftovers from the tank years. A guy like Boyle would be perfect to offload ROR minutes on the PK, defensive zone draws, late game situational stuff, etc... Yeah, Larsson, Foligno, Girgensons, Carrier, and young guys from Rochester are such a bad bottom 6 and were the reason that the Sabres didn't take the next step. Oh wait, that's dumb. Your boys Moulson and Ennis were the worst bottom 6ers on the team by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 They need better defensive minded buys on the bottom 6 who know how to defend in their own end, block shots, take away passing lanes, generate turnovers. The existing group are top 6 leftovers from the tank years. A guy like Boyle would be perfect to offload ROR minutes on the PK, defensive zone draws, late game situational stuff, etc... Right on - this especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAud Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) I have no interest in Bonino because of cost. I bet he gets 3.5 or more a year and honestly, I think Larsson if healthy can basically do what he can for less. Agree on not overpaying for Bonino...but Larsson cannot do what Bonino does. The fallacy that the Larsson -Foligno-Gionta line was some sort of fantastic 3rd line seems to carry on forever. Gionta was probably an OK 3rd line guy last year but Larsson and Foligno are 4th liners on a good playoff team. Career stats: Bonino 407 NHL games at 0.46 ppg. He has been in 74 playoff games, scoring at a 0.53 ppg clip. Was a 0.97 ppg guy in the AHL. Larsson 178 NHL games at 0.27 ppg. He was at 0.74 ppg in the AHL. Larsson at the right price on the 4th line vs. Bonino at the right price on the 3rd line are two different entities. 3rd line has to score. I think with this weak FA crop just about nobody will be available at "the right price" as it will be overbid due to lack of quality. Edited June 29, 2017 by Sakman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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