WildCard Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 So Sean Thornton got pretty upset on an Emelin hit last night, and had this to say about him and the league. It reminds me of why fighting in the league is still necessary To go with it, Kris Draper wrote a Player's Tribune article about the Lemieux hit he suffered and the Avs-Wings rivalry. Really good stuff. Just another reminder of why fighting is a necessary part of this league https://www.theplayerstribune.com/kris-draper-red-wings-avalanche-march-97/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Yeah, but Sean Thorton can also go pound sand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Amazing to think the NHL leader in PIM only has 154 for the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Good finds and good reads wild. Lemieux is still a douche, not for that one hit, but for a life time of dishing and turtling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Get rid of the instigator penalty and the problem works itself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Get rid of the instigator penalty and the problem works itself out. I believe this also. I also believe the game has changed enough that the John Scotts of the NHL are gone. That's to say a 4-5 minutes a game of protection services only type player are things of the past. Need to roll 4 productive lines just to get a team good enough to make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Get rid of the instigator penalty and the problem works itself out.Agreed, still pot calling kettle black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Amazing to think the NHL leader in PIM only has 154 for the seasonThe Hurricanes are pacing for fewer PIMs than teams during the lockout-shortened season of 48 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Get rid of the instigator penalty and the problem works itself out. yep Agreed, still pot calling kettle black. I don't know; I don't see Thornton as a cheap-shot guy who turtles when confronted. I do wonder what he thinks of his former teammate Marchand, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 yep I don't know; I don't see Thornton as a cheap-shot guy who turtles when confronted. I do wonder what he thinks of his former teammate Marchand, though. He didn't turtle when confronted, but he's definitely had his share of cheap shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 I can't recall Thornton ever turtling. He generally answers the bell. And for good cause, too -- he's done his share of dumb sh1t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Seems like we've been hearing this for at least 20 years (Matt Barnaby, anyone?). It's starting to suspiciously sound like "in my day, kids didn't walk on other people's lawns". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Seems like we've been hearing this for at least 20 years (Matt Barnaby, anyone?). It's starting to suspiciously sound like "in my day, kids didn't walk on other people's lawns". Kenny Linsman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 So Sean Thornton got pretty upset on an Emelin hit last night, and had this to say about him and the league. It reminds me of why fighting in the league is still necessary To go with it, Kris Draper wrote a Player's Tribune article about the Lemieux hit he suffered and the Avs-Wings rivalry. Really good stuff. Just another reminder of why fighting is a necessary part of this league https://www.theplayerstribune.com/kris-draper-red-wings-avalanche-march-97/ Thornton is a but Emelin is a cheap bastard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxhurtz Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 "Back in my day, I had to walk 20 miles to school one way in two feet of snow, barefoot!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Get rid of the instigator penalty and the problem works itself out. Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 "Back in my day, I had to walk 20 miles to school one way in two feet of snow, barefoot!" It's uphill, both ways. Get it right! :nana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 (edited) Sad to say, but John Scott pounding the tar out of Thornton easily ranks among my top 10 favourite on-ice moments of the past five years. Edited April 1, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 (edited) Sad to say, but John Scott pounding the tar out of Thornton easily ranks among my top 10 favourite on-ice moments of the past five years. Whole heartily agree. But there is a lot of back story as to why it was so great. Thornton is the leagues leading douche. The Miller incident. The soft core. John is a love-able big guy. We got nothing else to hang our hat on during this era (we haven't been good in a while, but hell, at least we're tough!). A big hit and a fight where the pinnacles of that week's Sabre performance during our John Scott days. He had the greatest week of them all... Unless Matt Ellis scoring tripped your trigger. Edited April 2, 2017 by Woods-Racer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Sad to say, but John Scott pounding the tar out of Thornton easily ranks among my top 10 favourite on-ice moments of the past five years. Why would you be sad to say that? I have a lot of favorite John Scott moments, like him running Eriksson at center ice, subsequently ending his own Buffalo career. Felt bad for Eriksson, nobody wants to see skill players hurt, but the Bruins had absolutely no problem with Lucic running Miller, in what was probably the most obvious piece of headhunting I ever say, so obviously they shouldn't be surprised if their own guys need to keep their heads up. To hell with the instigator, and I'd take three John Scotts on each team, if it meant fewer cheapshot-artists in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 I am in no way saying I like Thorton or anything but he is right and he always shows up and answers the bell even when he is against bigger guys. He is all heart which in itself is a wonderful thing. what we are seeing now is bush-league stuff like these nasty slashes players are constantly using (see Cindy's nice slash on Methot) and other cheap crap that would have caused a brawl a few years ago now goes unchallenged nor penalized. When there is nothing to stop the player from doing this crap, they will go ahead and do it as we are seeing. there are no enforcers anymore so we see more and more players pushing the limits and doing stuff we'd never have seen a few years back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Even during the heyday of enforcers there were lots of rats and cheap shot artists around. Claude Lemeiux, Ulf Samuelsson, Rich Pilon, Chris Chelios, Bobby Clarke, Dale Hunter, Darcy Tucker, Mark Messier, Kenny Linesman, shall I go on?..... And a large portion of the so called enforcers were 1st class cheap shot artists themselves, I'm looking at you Chris Neil, Brian Marchment, Dave Brown, Marty McSorley, Chris Simon, and yes even our own beloved Brad May. Many of those names were pre-instigator penalty and a bunch straddled it. There is no correlation between cheap shots and that extra 2 and a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Even during the heyday of enforcers there were lots of rats and cheap shot artists around. Claude Lemeiux, Ulf Samuelsson, Rich Pilon, Chris Chelios, Bobby Clarke, Dale Hunter, Darcy Tucker, Mark Messier, Kenny Linesman, shall I go on?..... And a large portion of the so called enforcers were 1st class cheap shot artists themselves, I'm looking at you Chris Neil, Brian Marchment, Dave Brown, Marty McSorley, Chris Simon, and yes even our own beloved Brad May. Many of those names were pre-instigator penalty and a bunch straddled it. There is no correlation between cheap shots and that extra 2 and a game. Thaaaaaaaaaank you! :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Thaaaaaaaaaank you! :beer: Having said all that, I do love me some tough guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Having said all that, I do love me some tough guys. Yea, I respect that, even though they don't do much for me. At least "I like them because they entertain me" is being honest, unlike the mental cartwheels some engage in to support the "necessity" of the tough guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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