TrueBlueGED Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 So we now know the truth: Yse is Mike Harrington http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/11/mike-harrington-players-dont-deserve-say-bylsma/ The players can't have a say on Bylsma until they've won something...but once they've won something, wouldn't that mean Bylsma doesn't deserve to get fired? I guess Murray should just cancel all player exit interviews for the next 7 years :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 o course the problem is every once in a while this team goes against all of their underachieving and blowing leads and...beat a good team like Columbus in a great game. these things are only helping keep Blysma here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 He is my least favorite of all the writers I've ever experienced. This includes newspapers, blogs, message boards, peer papers that I was forced to review in college, Mike Rodak, bathroom stalls.... Nicely put. He is the biggest turd out there. Plus, he lacks a chin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 So we now know the truth: Yse is Mike Harrington http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/11/mike-harrington-players-dont-deserve-say-bylsma/ I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for your mettling kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 The problem is again roster construction. Falk and Fedun were supposed to be the no.1 pairing in Roch and Falk spent 10 game w the Amerks and Fedun only 28. Carrier, the top LW , spent only 8 games in Rochester and now Bailey, Catenacci, COR and Erod are gone for a variety of reasons. Also none of the D playing for Roch are really prospects except Nelson and he wasn't even drafted by the Sabres, but signed as a college FA. Nearly all of the D, including Falk and Fedun are retreads from other organizations. Strachan was a late signing and is barely even an AHL player any longer. The depth in the organization simply doesn't exist and that is on GMTM, and the injuries in Buffalo exposed the band-aid nature of the Amerks. The prospect depth is so shallow that GMTM had over 9 AHL vets signed for the Amerks this season (pros with 260 games or more of experience), 1/2 on defense including Falk, Fedun, Strachan, Bennett, and Burgdorfer. Simply pitiful. The system may not work and maybe contributing to the problem, but no system works without adequate talent, and the Sabres and Amerks suffered ultimately from the same problem.... Not enough defensive talent. Blaming DD is easy. After all it must be the coach's fault if our star laden roster isn't winning. People complain about stretch passing, poor line combos, switching line combos, blah blah blah....... Yet they also acknowledge the injuries, especially to star forwards and 4/6 of our D, and they acknowledge the poor play of the same D even when they returned. Isn't possible that DD's system just hasn't been given the tools to implement it properly? Isn't it possible that the injuries destroyed an chance for the team to grow into the system this season. Despite these possibilities there is substantial factual evidence that the system and the coaching staff are effective. 1) we improved last season by 27 pts and it is not unusal for teams to plateau the next season after such a move. 2) the PP has shown drastic improvement and is among the mostly dangerous in hockey. 3) all our kids and young vets are improving. Jack, Sam, Risto, McCabe, Erod, Bailey, and even Foligno, Larsson and Girgensons. 4) all the goaltenders have improved during their time here; Lehner, Nilsson, Chad Johnson and Ullmark. 5) Falk and Fedun, AHL vets get called up and with only a brief time in the system prove themselves effective. 6) Somebody got through to Evander Kane and has gotten him to play his best and most consistent hockey of his career. 7) Doohickie mentioned it earlier in another thread, but we are in nearly ever game this season win or lose. Something that often wasn't true in previous seasons. We also, despite the recent losing streak, are still fighting every night. The comeback win tonight is arguably proof that the coaching staff hasn't lost the team, despite comments in Kulka's Corner. I'm not really for or against DD at this point, but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt until GMTM gives him a healthy and adequate D group to coach. I also am pretty sure, with his 5 year contract, he is going to be back next season, so I advise everyone to keep an open mind. Here is a scary thought, GMTM brings in guys like Vatanen and Alzner next season and they play well, stay healthy and the team competes for the Atlantic Division. What arevyou going to say about DD then? We don't deal in hypotheticals that stand no chance of happening. (Sabres winning the Adams next season being the impossible scenario; not the bringing in D upgrades. ;)) I expect this team to make the playoffs next year, even if Goober is the HC. BUT they will barely sneak in & will get thumped in the 1st round. Bylsma has set this rebuild back at least 1 year. Should the Sabres make the upgrades you propose, that team should WIN the Adams, not merely compete for it. Bylsma would have held thrm back once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityo'Rasmii Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) construction unction no wonder zfg is so quiet must be the blue line oh, blue line and construction - the system is fine anyway, bet Hartnell keeps 1 eye on the rear view mirror on March 28 go Sabres Edited March 12, 2017 by tfighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/sabres/dan-bylsma-going-get-boot-buffalo/ After the game, Eichel faced the music. “We played aggressive in the first, then we sat back and let them take it to us in the second and third,” Eichel said. “The tale of every game that we’ve played in the last few. So, nothing changes and we blow another lead.” It’s difficult to pinpoint exactly what is going on with the Sabres. Veteran analyst Jeff Marek summed it up well on a recent episode of the Marek vs Wyshynski podcast. “The interesting thing to me about Buffalo is that they seem to be playing this…as the entire league goes toward foot speed and fast-fast-fast, quick-quick-quick-quick-quick, Buffalo’s not doing that.” “They’re not, and they should,” his partner, Greg Wyshynski echoed. .... The Sabres have a top-six to make anyone jealous. Eichel is at the top of the league in scoring since returning from his injury. Goaltender Robin Lehner is top-ten in 5-on-5 statistics. On paper, Buffalo is a playoff team. They have a lot of speed and a lot of skill… and they are completely ineffective in almost every measure. If the players are playing well, but the team is losing, the focus should shift to the coach. Though Dan Bylsma is only in his second year with Buffalo, his time behind the bench may be running out. His team is underperforming severely, and the woeful coach doesn’t appear to have an answer. This was never so evident as it was in a recent pregame press conference, when he announced that he had no idea what the lines would be for the game that was occurring in a few short hours. Edited March 12, 2017 by WildCard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 At your service, sir. I do not think Dan will be, nor should he be, fired until he has a better roster to work with. His players are tuning him out, it won't matter how good his roster is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityo'Rasmii Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 What matter said matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 The players can't have a say on Bylsma until they've won something...but once they've won something, wouldn't that mean Bylsma doesn't deserve to get fired? I guess Murray should just cancel all player exit interviews for the next 7 years :rolleyes: And it's not like Brian Gionta has accomplished anything in this league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 What matter said matters Sure it matters, but he's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Sure it matters, but he's wrong. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Sure it matters, but he's wrong. According to people very close to the team I am not, and it started early on last year...Paul Hamilton, Sabres beat reporter, said pretty much its one of two things...either they don't want to play his system or Bylsma is asking them to do things they cannot do or cannot figure out how to do. People in Pittsburgh said it's pretty much the exact same thing that happened there---the star players didn't like his system or coaching style or whatever...you CANNOT succeed as a coach when you alienate your best players, doesn't matter who is right. Talent still wins games at the end of the day. Either way, this appears headed for a messy divorce this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) Crosby said the following when asked if the Pens should dump DD. "Honestly I don't think it's necessary." http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/sidney-crosby-denies-rift-with-head-coach-dan-bylsma/ Let's say y'all get your wish and DD gets tossed this off-season. We have now run off Nolan, LaFontaine and DD, who are you going to get now and will they be any better. If I'm an in demand coach, I'm not so sure I want to work for GMTM and PSE. Edited March 13, 2017 by GASabresIUFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) I've never once heard an athlete publicly say the coach is bad and needs to be fired, even if that's how they feel and it comes out later from the media Edited March 13, 2017 by WildCard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Crosby said the following when asked if the Pens should dump DD. "Honestly I don't think it's necessary." http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/sidney-crosby-denies-rift-with-head-coach-dan-bylsma/ Let's say y'all get your wish and DD gets tossed this off-season. We have now run off Nolan, LaFontaine and DD, who are you going to get now and will they be any better. If I'm an in demand coach, I'm not so sure I want to work for GMTM and PSE. Crosby is not going to come out and publicly dump on the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Crosby is not going to come out and publicly dump on the coach. Strikes me as the standard captain talk "each guy needs to look at himself in the mirror, and then decide to do better, this all starts with us, etc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Crosby said the following when asked if the Pens should dump DD. "Honestly I don't think it's necessary." http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/sidney-crosby-denies-rift-with-head-coach-dan-bylsma/ Let's say y'all get your wish and DD gets tossed this off-season. We have now run off Nolan, LaFontaine and DD, who are you going to get now and will they be any better. If I'm an in demand coach, I'm not so sure I want to work for GMTM and PSE. Well by this logic, the target of your hatred isn't a problem either. After all, Bylsma hasn't come out and said that he needs a new GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Well by this logic, the target of your hatred isn't a problem either. After all, Bylsma hasn't come out and said that he needs a new GM. That'd be hilarious though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Well by this logic, the target of your hatred isn't a problem either. After all, Bylsma hasn't come out and said that he needs a new GM. I think you need a link for that quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) Crosby said the following when asked if the Pens should dump DD. "Honestly I don't think it's necessary." http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/sidney-crosby-denies-rift-with-head-coach-dan-bylsma/ Let's say y'all get your wish and DD gets tossed this off-season. We have now run off Nolan, LaFontaine and DD, who are you going to get now and will they be any better. If I'm an in demand coach, I'm not so sure I want to work for GMTM and PSE. This is dangerously close to the idiocy that was "Who's better than Lindy?" It's more than who objectively is better than Dan, but who is subjectively better for this job? So there are probably tons of guys out there. Hell, Nolan would have this team in the playoffs. *ducks The concern about wanting to work for the Pegulas is a fair one. But there's the old saying about only 30 such jobs existing in the world, and only a handful of those being open at any given time. Edited March 13, 2017 by PASabreFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 If the Sabres drop Disco Dan, it's more of a reflection on DD than it is on the Sabres. Look at his last two gigs: He was canned by Pittsburgh and now he would be canned by Buffalo, and for consistent reasons. And he'll still be paid handsomely by the Sabres for a few more years. If I'm a prospective coach, I look at the opportunity to win but also for the financial security. DD was given both. He hasn't lived up to his end of the bargain but he's still benefiting financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Dany Byslma = Jeff Fisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 According to people very close to the team I am not, and it started early on last year...Paul Hamilton, Sabres beat reporter, said pretty much its one of two things...either they don't want to play his system or Bylsma is asking them to do things they cannot do or cannot figure out how to do. People in Pittsburgh said it's pretty much the exact same thing that happened there---the star players didn't like his system or coaching style or whatever...you CANNOT succeed as a coach when you alienate your best players, doesn't matter who is right. Talent still wins games at the end of the day. Either way, this appears headed for a messy divorce this offseason. The next time that I put any stock in what Hamilton says it will be the first time. More importantly, what you say he said above does not prove what you said about the players tuning him out. They may not like the system and that may also mean that they can't play it, but it does not mean that they are tuning him out. I believe the players want to be the best they can be in any system. If you look at the results they are not always there, but it seems that they are trying. The proof of that is their record since the return of Eich. I firmly believe that if Eichel had not missed the first part of the season then the Sabres would be in a playoff position, or very close to it. One cannot put that on the coach. Injuries happen, sure, and it is up to the other players to step up, but when your best player is out of the lineup and the talent level of the roster over all is, shall I say, suspect, then they will not be able to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) No coach will,ever sign with Montreal again after Bergevin went behind Therriens back and offered Julien a job while Therrien was employed. Julien kept Boston in the race for years as management frittered away a cup-winning roster. He still got fired. No coach worth anything would ever sign there. How can Florida ever attract a qualified coach after leaving Gallant standing at the curb in front of the media. Detroit offers Babcock everything to stay and he didn't. He knows something. It will be impossible for Detroit to get anybody now. After the way Regier treated Nolan, no sane coach would want to come to Buffalo. Edited March 13, 2017 by dudacek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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