Huckleberry Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I don't see anything wrong with that hit He lifts his skates to hit wheeler in the head with his elbow. Looks to me he could have avoided that hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Didn't look too bad but him, suspend him through the playoffs. Crosby and those ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I don't see anything wrong with that hit He lifts his skates to hit wheeler in the head with his elbow. Looks to me he could have avoided that hit. Didn't look too bad but ###### him, suspend him through the playoffs. ###### Crosby and those ######! Nah, I don't see anything wrong with that hit. If it were Risto hitting someone, you'd all agree. To address Huckleberry's comments: Both skates were on the ice at the moment of impact; he lifts the right skate just after the hit and strides away. If anything, getting a little high on his skates looks to me like an attempt to minimize the hit; if he stays on the tracks and doesn't turn away, he would have obliterated Wheeler and maybe injured himself as well. The point of contact was not his elbow but his shoulder, and it looks like Wheeler took it on the shoulder as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Worst Avs trades ever made and the ROR one isn't on the list. How? http://thehockeywriters.com/colorado-avalanche-worst-trades-in-team-history/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Worst Avs trades ever made and the ROR one isn't on the list. How? http://thehockeywriters.com/colorado-avalanche-worst-trades-in-team-history/ Because Buffalo. ???? Edited February 17, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Nah, I don't see anything wrong with that hit. If it were Risto hitting someone, you'd all agree. To address Huckleberry's comments: Both skates were on the ice at the moment of impact; he lifts the right skate just after the hit and strides away. If anything, getting a little high on his skates looks to me like an attempt to minimize the hit; if he stays on the tracks and doesn't turn away, he would have obliterated Wheeler and maybe injured himself as well. The point of contact was not his elbow but his shoulder, and it looks like Wheeler took it on the shoulder as well. 1:46 of the video you can see both of Malkin's feet in the air making contact with the head. https://youtu.be/UKfOuiRY8Io?t=1m46s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 That's a reprint of an earlier article that's nearly a year old, so it was still the first season after the trade. It may have been too soon to pronounce judgment on the ROR trade in their minds. 1:46 of the video you can see both of Malkin's feet in the air making contact with the head. https://youtu.be/UKfOuiRY8Io?t=1m46s I see that. I was looking at one of the other angles. Looks to me that the intent was primarily shoulder-to-shoulder, and I think he was trying to avoid the hit more than anything else. Consider also that Wheeler and just wheeled around to try to get the loose puck, which Malkin was also trying to get. Each player had only a split second to react. Also, Stuart's presence in the vicinity took away time and space and options for Malkin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1:46 of the video you can see both of Malkin's feet in the air making contact with the head. https://youtu.be/UKfOuiRY8Io?t=1m46s Yep, I'm with you, left his feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 No love for Sid scoring his 1000th? The scoring race between him and McDavid could be a fun one. And who knows, maybe a couple of these guys that have gotten hot and pulled within reach will make this more than a two horse race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) That POS Malkin comes off of his feet and hits Wheeler in the head doesn't get a phoe call? I have watched the replay of the hit at 1/15 time and Wheeler's head is this first thing that Malkin makes contact with...he launches himself into the hit. Did he hit Wheeler's shoulder? Yes...was there head contact? Yes, lots. To make matters worse, that poor excuse for a poor excuse assists on Crosby's GWG. I'd like to see someone Bobbly Clarke him on the 8th when they are in town. Former ref Kerry Fraser's take on it...12:50 or so. http://www.tsn.ca/radio/winnipeg-1290/fraser-a-lot-of-wheeler-s-head-hit-by-malkin-1.674991 I didn't realize that, overall, the Pens are a pretty dirty team. I think two of their D were knocked out of the game and one for sure is out for 6 weeks but they were on legal hits. Too bad it wasn't Malkin. Edited February 18, 2017 by Ducky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 1:46 of the video you can see both of Malkin's feet in the air making contact with the head. https://youtu.be/UKfOuiRY8Io?t=1m46s Only watched the 1st 5 or so times the clip showed the hit. Looked to me like Malkin was more trying to avoid the hit than run Wheeler. His body is almost completely perpendicular to the ice before making contact. BUT whether intentional or not, he did leave his feet prior to the hit & the initial point of contact was the head (or it was hit so slightly after the shoulder that they were hit simultaneously). It should have been a charge. But probably just a 2 minute charge IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Only watched the 1st 5 or so times the clip showed the hit. Looked to me like Malkin was more trying to avoid the hit than run Wheeler. His body is almost completely perpendicular to the ice before making contact. BUT whether intentional or not, he did leave his feet prior to the hit & the initial point of contact was the head (or it was hit so slightly after the shoulder that they were hit simultaneously). It should have been a charge. But probably just a 2 minute charge IMHO. Gotta agree.. Could he have been called for a charge for leaving his feet? Sure, I'd say so. But watch the video around 1:14. Looks like he intentionally tucks his elbow to ensure it's a straight-up, shoulder to shoulder hit. Nothing that warrants any time away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 That's a reprint of an earlier article that's nearly a year old, so it was still the first season after the trade. It may have been too soon to pronounce judgment on the ROR trade in their minds. I see that. I was looking at one of the other angles. Looks to me that the intent was primarily shoulder-to-shoulder, and I think he was trying to avoid the hit more than anything else. Consider also that Wheeler and just wheeled around to try to get the loose puck, which Malkin was also trying to get. Each player had only a split second to react. Also, Stuart's presence in the vicinity took away time and space and options for Malkin. All of this could be addressed in a telephone hearing. It's the lack of such a hearing that's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Only watched the 1st 5 or so times the clip showed the hit. Looked to me like Malkin was more trying to avoid the hit than run Wheeler. His body is almost completely perpendicular to the ice before making contact. BUT whether intentional or not, he did leave his feet prior to the hit & the initial point of contact was the head (or it was hit so slightly after the shoulder that they were hit simultaneously). It should have been a charge. But probably just a 2 minute charge IMHO. He did get interference if I recall correctly. I would have tacked another 2 on for charging and his final 2 for roughing. All of this could be addressed in a telephone hearing. It's the lack of such a hearing that's the problem. Indeed. No harm in having a conversation, listening to the explanations and then saying it was not an intent to injure and the call on the ice was enough, at best they could have called charging but that's with the benefit of slow motion. The good news is that Wheeler came back after the concussion protocol so at least it wasn't worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Tyson Barrie on waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Tyson Barrie on waivers. Think you mean Ty Rattie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Think you mean Ty Rattie.Kid showed promise early on, wonder what happened. In any event, another right winger that shoots righty. Murray should pick him up just to be an AHL filler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Rattie was a "rumored" aquisition a few years ago, has he just completely fallen off or never that good anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Rattie was a "rumored" aquisition a few years ago, has he just completely fallen off or never that good anyways? I think he was never that good. He was a Luke Adam type player. He could light it up the the AHL but he could never bring that success to the NHL. Wierd how that works some times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Think you mean Ty Rattie. I think you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 McDavid on NHL network now against the hawks, if anyone is interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 I think he was never that good. He was a Luke Adam type player. He could light it up the the AHL but he could never bring that success to the NHL. Wierd how that works some times. Like Derek Grant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 McDavid on NHL network now against the hawks, if anyone is interested. Gift goal for the Oil. I'm hoping the Hawks get gassed tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Gift goal for the Oil. I'm hoping the Hawks get gassed tonight. That's my hope too. Patrick Kane had a shift of dipsy doodle dominance after that oil goal. It was impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlJNleCBtzY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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