PromoTheRobot Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 So far Linus Ullmark and Chad Johnson are playing well enough for the Sabres to win 6 of their last 8. If this continues, is Robin Lehner automatically back to being the starter when he returns? If Ullmark keeps playing as well as he has, it will be hard to do that. But it will also make the trade of a 1st round pick for Lehner seem like a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Lehner, despite being 48 pounds overweight and sporting fresh tattoos of Milan Lucic on each cheek will start 11 straight games, where the Sabres go 1-9-1 despite scoring 47 goals. Johnson will change his name to Jose Treintaytres and defect to the KHL. Ullmark will be traded to the Penguins for the rights to Michel Plasse and Jack Eichel will dress as the backup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doohickie Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Lehner, despite being 48 pounds overweight and sporting fresh tattoos of Milan Lucic on each cheek will start 11 straight games, where the Sabres go 1-9-1 despite scoring 47 goals. Johnson will change his name to Jose Treintaytres and defect to the KHL. Ullmark will be traded to the Penguins for the rights to Michel Plasse and Jack Eichel will dress as the backup My answer is so much more mundane. Can I have some of what you're smoking? Two likely scenarios: More likely: Ullmark to Rochester, goaltending split by Lehner and Johnson. Less likely: Johnson to Rochester via waivers, goaltending split by Lehner and Ullmark. Either one of those will probably be preceded by a reconditioning stint in Rochester for Lehner. My gut feel is that no matter what they do, Ullmark is The One for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Really hard to say without knowing how Ullmark plays between now and then. It's perfectly possible that he falls off from his current play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Well dudacek's feeling a bit giddy, innit? Good thread, PTR. I'll guess that regardless of how well Ullmark is playing, Lehner will get a few starts (not consecutive though if Ullmark is playing well), and if Lehner looks really good and Ullmark looks good but not Carey Price-ish, Lehner will get the #1 role and Ullmark will go down to Rochester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 After starting the season with goaltending with a sub .900 save percentage, it's a nice problem to have. Murray said in an interview with GR last week that Lehner is a number one goalie, so I believe that Lehner gets a 14 day conditioning assignment with Rochester and depending on how that goes gets Ullmark's Spot with Ullmark getting returned to Rochester. That being said, there is NFW I would do that if he continues to play the way he is. As far as giving up the first for him, at the time the trade was made the Sabres Goaltending Depth was a great unknown. Ullmark was the best of the bunch, but coming off double hip surgery they had no way of knowing that he would bounce back that fast or even if he would be able to play at all. Besides I pretend the first was for ROR and 31 was for Lehner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Lehner, despite being 48 pounds overweight and sporting fresh tattoos of Milan Lucic on each cheek will start 11 straight games, where the Sabres go 1-9-1 despite scoring 47 goals. Johnson will change his name to Jose Treintaytres and defect to the KHL. Ullmark will be traded to the Penguins for the rights to Michel Plasse and Jack Eichel will dress as the backup Well done. Reminds me of qwk's unfinished hypothetical Sabres Cup run. I'm still awaiting that ending Edited November 13, 2015 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 He joins PBS Newshour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Well done. Reminds me of qwk's unfinished hypothetical Sabres Cup run. I'm still waiting that ending Babdick is vaporized and Ennis wakes up, having passed out in the penalty box again. Those playoff series were all part of his BEAUTIFUL MIND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ullmark goes to Rochester and assumes #1 there while Lehner is given the Buffalo net as their #1. If Johnson is still playing ok he will get a few more games than a normal backup would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Babdick is vaporized and Ennis wakes up, having passed out in the penalty box again. Those playoff series were all part of his BEAUTIFUL MIND. Son of a bitch, qwk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ullmark goes to Rochester and assumes #1 there while Lehner is given the Buffalo net as their #1. If Johnson is still playing ok he will get a few more games than a normal backup would Waive Johnson. He'll clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 minuter för grovbearbetn Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 I was prepared to wait on Lehner to play himself into top form as the team learned to play together. I figured that by Christmas the team would start to gel and be difficult to play against. There would be more losses than wins as Lehner knocks off the rust from months of inactivity. The growth would be slow and steady. But as it stands now, the team is gelling much faster than I would have guessed. The problem becomes do we - as in fans - have the patience to allow Lehner to do this now? We have had a taste of some pretty good hockey, and some better than expected goaltending. Realistically, when he comes back, there's going to be some nights of bad play on his part. That's going to be understandable, but frustrating. It will be a good problem to have if Ullmark plays very well and we continue to be a borderline playoff team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ullmark is playing well, but he's too scrambly and floppy. That's just part of being a young goaltender, he needs to be playing a ton and he can do that in Roch while he fine tunes his game. It's just a matter of time before he lays an egg at the NHL level and you don't need to crush his confidence while he's young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Ullmark is playing well, but he's too scrambly and floppy. That's just part of being a young goaltender, he needs to be playing a ton and he can do that in Roch while he fine tunes his game. It's just a matter of time before he lays an egg at the NHL level and you don't need to crush his confidence while he's young. Or he could be the next Cam Ward... If Lehner comes back, Johnson would appear to be heading for Ra Cha Cha, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 It's a simple answer. Ullmark goes back to Rochester where he starts almost every game. Johnson is the backup here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 It's a simple answer. Ullmark goes back to Rochester where he starts almost every game. Johnson is the backup here. I think Ullmark starting in Florida last night was a clear tell that he has supplanted Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I think Ullmark starting in Florida last night was a clear tell that he has supplanted Johnson. True, but he needs to gain experience by playing in games, if not here then in Rochester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Waive Johnson. He'll clear. Just don't go around waving Johnson into the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Woods is killing it lately :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 If Ullmark plays the same as he has been, then I don't care what lehner and his weak ankles bring.... I wanna see Ullmark as the starter here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I think Ullmark starting in Florida last night was a clear tell that he has supplanted Johnson. Ullmark is the future. Johnson is the backup. Ultimately what's important to Ullmark's development takes precedence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 At the moment though, all we have is the Concept of Lehner™. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 At the moment though, all we have is the Concept of Lehner™. And the cost of getting him is a sunk cost. It should not figure into what happens when he comes back. After he's had his conditioning assignment, if Ullmark is still better than Chad, send Chad down and play whichever Swede will win you a game. Unfortunately for Robin, he MIGHT have injured himself out of another starting role. Competition is good. If he wants the job back, earn it when healthy. If he gets it back that way - awesome. The Sabres GT will have gone from league's biggest Q to top 10 at worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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