WildCard Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Look two posts above this ;) Oh you! Well played buddy :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 This got buried before, but John Shannon was on GR this AM and stated the Habs desperately need scoring. Kane came up and he mentioned that Sergechev would be a no go, but he mentioned Noah Juulsen playing for Everett in the WHL as a possibility. At first glance that's not even close to Kane's Value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 This got buried before, but John Shannon was on GR this AM and stated the Habs desperately need scoring. Kane came up and he mentioned that Sergechev would be a no go, but he mentioned Noah Juulsen playing for Everett in the WHL as a possibility. At first glance that's not even close to Kane's Value. galchenyuck please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 This got buried before, but John Shannon was on GR this AM and stated the Habs desperately need scoring. Kane came up and he mentioned that Sergechev would be a no go, but he mentioned Noah Juulsen playing for Everett in the WHL as a possibility. At first glance that's not even close to Kane's Value. Unfortunately, I think that's quite close to Kane's value. Trade value, I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Unfortunately, I think that's quite close to Kane's value. Trade value, I mean. Not after watching Hanzal and seeing what Duchene and Skogs' prices are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Not after watching Hanzal and seeing what Duchene and Skogs' prices are Hanzal is a center, cheaper, and without off-ice questions. Also likely cheaper to extend. And despite the hot streak, Kane is still probably only going to end up in the low-40s point range after only 35 last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Unfortunately, I think that's quite close to Kane's value. Trade value, I mean. Juulsen is a late 1st rounder who has pretty much kept his value. The price for Kane was that plus the equivalent of three seconds. Why has Kane's value dropped so much at the same time he's playing the best hockey of his life? You can say Murray overpaid - god knows you wouldn't be the first - but by three seconds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Kane isn't being traded for a kid in Jrs. Not happening. If GMTM trades Kane it is for a current top 4 D or at worst a top 4 D near ready prospect like Theodore, plus a roster player, nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) Juulsen is a late 1st rounder who has pretty much kept his value. The price for Kane was that plus the equivalent of three seconds. Why has Kane's value dropped so much at the same time he's playing the best hockey of his life? You can say Murray overpaid - god knows you wouldn't be the first - but by three seconds? I think the allure of Kane's potential is diminished--how many GMs are going to really believe he's a 30 goal guy in waiting when he's spent most of his time with Eichel and O'Reilly, and still is only a 20-25 player? He's continued to get injured. He's two years older and only has 1 year left on his contract as opposed to 3. He's had two off-ice incidents, and though nothing came of them legally, it's not the type of thing that's endearing to GMs on the heels of the (nonsense, IMO, but existent nonetheless) stuff in Winnipeg. And again, in general, scoring wingers just don't have a ton of trade value. Edit: Put another way, I don't think Murray overpaid by three 2nds. I just don't think 2017 Kane is as valuable as 2015 Kane. Edited February 28, 2017 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) I think the allure of Kane's potential is diminished--how many GMs are going to really believe he's a 30 goal guy in waiting when he's spent most of his time with Eichel and O'Reilly, and still is only a 20-25 player? He's continued to get injured. He's two years older and only has 1 year left on his contract as opposed to 3. He's had two off-ice incidents, and though nothing came of them legally, it's not the type of thing that's endearing to GMs on the heels of the (nonsense, IMO, but existent nonetheless) stuff in Winnipeg. And again, in general, scoring wingers just don't have a ton of trade value. Edit: Put another way, I don't think Murray overpaid by three 2nds. I just don't think 2017 Kane is as valuable as 2015 Kane. I could hug you Again, trade him while he has some value. Toss in a 1st and get a freaking defenseman Edited February 28, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I could hug you Again, trade him while he has some value. Toss in a 1st and get a freaking defenseman Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Yes. Maybe I'm being unduly pessimistic, but I don't expect the gape between Kane's perceived value to the Sabres and his actual trade value to narrow much. Only thing I see shifting the calculus is if his contract demands necessitate a move. So what do you project? A contract extension? Or a deadline deal next deadline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Or Rob Ray mispronounce it 25 times "Yolk-alpaca dishes to Zemgus Girgens" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 "Yolk-alpaca dishes to Zemgus Girgens" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 So what do you project? A contract extension? Or a deadline deal next deadline? My money's on an extension the terms of which will make me a very sad panda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Aaron Portzline @Aportzline Hearing #Avs D Fedor Tyutin could be on the move tonight https://mobile.twitter.com/Aportzline/status/836782887257190402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Aaron Portzline @Aportzline Hearing #Avs D Fedor Tyutin could be on the move tonight https://mobile.twitter.com/Aportzline/status/836782887257190402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw He's uh... Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 My money's on an extension the terms of which will make me a very sad panda. I would be happy with a Kane extension provided the terms aren't outrageous, but the rumours that we are unlikely to re-sign him seem to hold water to me, for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) Philli may be sellers and besides the gratuitous Gerioux rumor, Delzotto and Streit, 2 Isle castoffs could be for sale... Any thought of a swap for say Kuli and Gorges and maybe a 4th rounder. Twitter sphere saying quins possibly interested in Kuli... who would you want back? Edited March 1, 2017 by North Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 The Kings are actively trying to trade Marian Gaborik. #lavoiedubé Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 The Kings are actively trying to trade Marian Gaborik. #lavoiedubéGood luck with that @DarrenDreger 3h3 hours agoMore Duchene, Vanek, Kulikov, Vrbata and Lazar are top 5 on the TSN Hockey Trade Bait list. Duchene/Lazar may not go...the other 3 very likely. @FriedgeHNIC 1h1 hour ago Some things to watch: BOS/maybe CAL on Vrbata. FLA/LA on Vanek. Del Zotto showcase last night for PHI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I'm assuming we are waiting for the 12pm waiver wire to end so Pittsburgh's Fehr is off the roster, opening the spot for Kulikov and ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Philli may be sellers and besides the gratuitous Gerioux rumor, Delzotto and Streit, 2 Isle castoffs could be for sale... Any thought of a swap for say Kuli and Gorges and maybe a 4th rounder. Twitter sphere saying quins possibly interested in Kuli... who would you want back? In both cases i'm guessing picks are what will be exchanged for pending UFAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 The Hurricanes try to see what they could get for Teuvo Teravainen. #lavoiedubé Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 The Hurricanes try to see what they could get for Teuvo Teravainen. #lavoiedubé I'd toss them something. Girgs? 2nd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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