WildCard Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Probably true, but then you have to extend that list, because the Caps would never trade Ovi, and the Hawks would never trade Toews or Kane (probably), and there's others who wouldn't be traded for sentimental reasons. If tomorrow they do a EA Sports style fantasy draft and my team ends up with Crosby, I trade him for McDavid in a heartbeatI don't think trading Crosby is for sentimental reasons. He, unlike McDavid, gives them the best chance to win now. He would give Washington that, and Chicago that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I would trade Eichel for McDavid. I would not trade Crosby or McDavid for anybody Exactly why Eichel is also on the non trade list. If you would not trade McDavid or Crosby then how or for whom would you trade him to? Matthews,Crosby,McDavid and Eichel are the no trade players at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Right but the thought is that you'll have, for example, teams who will be too heavy at d and have to expose people they don't want to to expose while they'd like to expose a winger they currently have in favor of a better one they could acquire for a D man they'd lose for nothing anyway. It's a zero sum game but most teams don't have equal quality forward and defense depth within the non-expansion exempt portions of their rosters. Even if the swaps end up being one for ones I'd be surprised if there isn't some juggling. But who is going to juggle for the Vegas draft at the trade deadline? The trade deadline is for teams that are close to find a missing piece &/or some extra depth & for teams that are clearly out to dump parts that don't fit into the rebuild. Minny isn't going to dump their 4th D to get prospects & the ability to protect 2 extra forwards in March. There WILL be movement before the Vegas draft. The vast majority of it won't happen this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Exactly why Eichel is also on the non trade list. If you would not trade McDavid or Crosby then how or for whom would you trade him to? Matthews,Crosby,McDavid and Eichel are the no trade players at this point.What? The hypothetical here is that I can trade Eichel for any player, and we're assuming Sakic is the other gn and will just say yes. There is no player or package in the league I would trade Crosby or McDavid for. There are packages or players I would move Eichel and Matthews for. Namely, McDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) http://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/insiders-weigh-nixed-shattenkirk-trades/ “Now, what we also know is this: On three occasions – dating back to the Edmonton Oilers last summer, another team in November, and most recently another team in the last month – there have been deals consummated or conditionally consummated with the St. Louis Blues for Kevin Shattenkirk if he signed a long-term extension. But in each of those three instances, Shattenkirk was not able to come to an agreement. And the one most recently, in the last month or so, we believe was a seven-year, $42 million total, worth $6 million a year. “So we’ll see what happens between now and Wednesday.” Dreger on Shattenkirk: ‘I’m told they’ve committed to trading him’ Jeremy Rutherford of The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Thursday evening that “the swap of Shattenkirk would have been with an Eastern Conference team and is believed to be the Tampa Bay Lightning, with whom the Blues have long been speculated to be in trade talks.” “I’m thinking Tyler Johnson is part of that package going the other way because if Tampa was going to have Shattenkirk signed to a seven-year deal at $6 million a year, they’ve got to move out some money. “And as I said, even quite aside from whether they get a defenseman or not, they can’t afford Drouin, Palat, and Johnson this summer. Not a chance in the world in my mind, unless I’m reading the numbers wrong. For everyone against trading Kane, look at the issue Shattenkirk has caused St.Louis. 3 teams were willing to pay an unreal price for him, and his UFA status has blocked every one of them. St.Louis desperately needs to move him, and they can't because he's going to be a UFA. Here are all of your trade rumors so far http://thehockeywriters.com/2017-nhl-trade-deadline-rumor-tracker/ Edited February 24, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 http://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/insiders-weigh-nixed-shattenkirk-trades/ For everyone against trading Kane, look at the issue Shattenkirk has caused St.Louis. 3 teams were willing to pay an unreal price for him, and his UFA status has blocked every one of them. St.Louis desperately needs to move him, and they can't because he's going to be a UFA. The difference between Kane today and Shattenkirk a year ago is that the public knew then that Shattenkirk wasn't sticking around. I've always said that if Kane has no intention of re-signing, then trade him. And the Blues will trade him. It's will just be for rental prices, not a hockey trade. I'd compare Shattenkirk's position now to O'Reillys two years ago. Fortunately for us Ryan was open to signing with Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 The difference between Kane today and Shattenkirk a year ago is that the public knew then that Shattenkirk wasn't sticking around. I've always said that if Kane has no intention of re-signing, then trade him. And the Blues will trade him. It's will just be for rental prices, not a hockey trade. I'd compare Shattenkirk's position now to O'Reillys two years ago. Fortunately for us Ryan was open to signing with Buffalo. Very true. And I fully admit I don't know the answer to that, but I believe he will not resign. I could very well be wrong They'll move him just because they lost Ott and Backes for nothing and won't do that again. He won't get the 1st + #1 prospect + player that Edmonton, Zona, and Tampa offered them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Per Darren Dreger Tim Murray is surprised there has not been more interest in Kane. Also regarding the contract extension for Kane it's possible but unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Per Darren Dreger Tim Murray is surprised there has not been more interest in Kane. Also regarding the contract extension for Kane it's possible but unlikely. Murray thinks an extension is unlikely, or Dreger does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) I took both of those things as Dreger's opinion, nothing concrete or even from a source http://media.wgr550.com/a/118521285/02-24-tsn-s-darren-dreger-with-the-instigators.htm It's at the very beginning of the interview Edited February 24, 2017 by Lanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 .@frank_seravalli -"I've been hearing that Tim Murray's phone is not ringing off the hook regarding Evander Kane." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 .@frank_seravalli -"I've been hearing that Tim Murray's phone is not ringing off the hook regarding Evander Kane." Unsurprising. Sizeable cap number with term left isn't exactly attractive at the deadline before the expansion draft. Or any deadline, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Unsurprising. Sizeable cap number with term left isn't exactly attractive at the deadline before the expansion draft. Or any deadline, really. Yup. If he moves it's gonna be at the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) .@frank_seravalli -"I've been hearing - from the guys Darren Dreger was speculating to on WGR - that Tim Murray's phone is not ringing off the hook regarding Evander Kane."Fixed it for you.Soon to be a headline story and the subject of much internet consternation. This is how it works boys and girls. Edited February 24, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Yup. If he moves it's gonna be at the draft Well if the rumours are true that's he's unlikely to be extended, if he's not dealt at the draft, he'll have to be dealt sometime after. Probably an attractive piece at NEXT year's deadline as he'll no longer have term. Watch us trade him for a couple picks and a middling prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Looks like it may come down to Tuesday or Wednesday on who is going and who is staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Lightning AGM Pat Verbeek is listed as being in Nashville today. He was also in Columbus watching Nashville on Sunday. maybe a D for a top six forward swap in the works? Fleury has submitted a list of three teams he would agree to be traded to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 From Eric Engels of Sportsnet Canada From what I've been told, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Minnesota picking up Evander Kane between now and Wed. #NHLTrade Brodin?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 There are rumors all over right now. Minny, LA and now there is a source who has been correct before (a Danny Care friend) on hockey buzz saying the Ducks want an audience with TM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 There are rumors all over right now. Minny, LA and now there is a source who has been correct before (a Danny Care friend) on hockey buzz saying the Ducks want an audience with TM. looking at what has been paid for hanzal, the price for kane just went up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 From Eric Engels of Sportsnet Canada From what I've been told, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Minnesota picking up Evander Kane between now and Wed. #NHLTrade Brodin?? I want to trade Kane for D help, but I'd be pretty disappointed if the return were to be Brodin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 I want to trade Kane for D help, but I'd be pretty disappointed if the return were to be Brodin.Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Cancel that trade speculation on Kane to Minny From Eric Engels Update: MIN had considered E. Kane earlier, but I just received a text from exec--"not going to happen." Consider them out of that race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 looking at what has been paid for hanzal, the price for kane just went up. I want to trade Kane for D help, but I'd be pretty disappointed if the return were to be Brodin. Agreed Buffalo has been heavily scouting both LA and Minny's ALL clubs. If a trade is made, it will be for more than just a d man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Cancel that trade speculation on Kane to Minny From Eric Engels Update: MIN had considered E. Kane earlier, but I just received a text from exec--"not going to happen." Consider them out of that race. Down to who? LA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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