LGR4GM Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The are ancient. If NHL Numbers is correct, they are the oldest team with their average age at 30.5 I don't know who is going to replace the aging players in the next couple of years. They have to take a forward this draft or they are idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The Devils talk is interesting. I thought Lou Lam was a genius? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The Devils talk is interesting. I thought Lou Lam was a genius? he got old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The Devils talk is interesting. I thought Lou Lam was a genius? Nope. The game passed him by I think in time. The NJD since 2009 have selected 9 players with 1st or 2nd round picks. Of those 9 players 6 have been defenders. They are going to age rapidly unless they address this problem immediately. Remember how Buffalo took basically 0 centers between 2008 and 2012? Same kind of idea. They did get one Cup Finals appearance but they are definitely trending down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Just to put the Devils picks in perspective.... The Sabres had 15 1st and 2nd round picks during the same time period. 12 picks since 2012. 4 of those picks were defensemen. So 6/9 versus 4/15. This indicates that the Devils really love their defenders and Buffalo has loved their forwards recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 he got old. There were only 21 teams in the NHL when he was hired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 There were only 21 teams in the NHL when he was hired. Holy crap! That really puts things in perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Just to put the Devils picks in perspective.... The Sabres had 15 1st and 2nd round picks during the same time period. 12 picks since 2012. 4 of those picks were defensemen. So 6/9 versus 4/15. This indicates that the Devils really love their defenders and Buffalo has loved their forwards recently. Something, something, BPA, something. that's what the trade market is for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Something, something, BPA, something. that's what the trade market is for. We have fundamental differences on how to determine BPA and we have fundamental differences on what you can and can't do in the trade market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) We have fundamental differences on how to determine BPA and we have fundamental differences on what you can and can't do in the trade market. That may very well be, but I wasn't responding to your ideas on how you determine BPA. I was responding to: the Devils really love their defenders and Buffalo has loved their forwards If there were a way to prove it I'd lay money down that the Devils thought they were drafting BPA and not defenders because they prefer defenders. And ditto for forwards and Buffalo. Edited May 27, 2015 by weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 That may very well be, but I wasn't responding to your ideas on how you determine BPA. I was responding to: If there were a way to prove it I'd lay money down that the Devils thought they were drafting BPA and not defenders because they prefer defenders. And ditto for forwards and Buffalo. Not sure I ever said Buffalo preferred X or NJ preferred Y. I simply stated those two teams have loved those players respectively and find it interesting how they drafted over a period of time. You can bet all the money you want but we will never be able to prove that a GM targeted or did not target a specific position. I do find it fascinating that following the 2006 Cup lost DR went 5/8 on 1st/2nd round picks at defense over the next 3 drafts. How they determine who is BPA would be interesting to see. I will admit I may be inferring some things, however how you would like to interpret them... well, that's entirely up to you. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Not sure I ever said Buffalo preferred X or NJ preferred Y. I simply stated those two teams have loved those players respectively and find it interesting how they drafted over a period of time. You can bet all the money you want but we will never be able to prove that a GM targeted or did not target a specific position. I do find it fascinating that following the 2006 Cup lost DR went 5/8 on 1st/2nd round picks at defense over the next 3 drafts. How they determine who is BPA would be interesting to see. I will admit I may be inferring some things, however how you would like to interpret them... well, that's entirely up to you. B-) You and JJFiveoh seem to have the same buzz tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Not sure I ever said Buffalo preferred X or NJ preferred Y. I simply stated those two teams have loved those players respectively and find it interesting how they drafted over a period of time. You can bet all the money you want but we will never be able to prove that a GM targeted or did not target a specific position. I do find it fascinating that following the 2006 Cup lost DR went 5/8 on 1st/2nd round picks at defense over the next 3 drafts. How they determine who is BPA would be interesting to see. I will admit I may be inferring some things, however how you would like to interpret them... well, that's entirely up to you. B-) 5/8 isn't interesting. That's one pick over half. If it was 7/8 then it's notable. MAYBE 6/8... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 5/8 isn't interesting. That's one pick over half. If it was 7/8 then it's notable. MAYBE 6/8... one of those was Enroth but I find it interesting. You and JJFiveoh seem to have the same buzz tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 one of those was Enroth but I find it interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Good talk Weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Good talk Weave No prob. I figured the moving picture would help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 No prob. I figured the moving picture would help you. yes the... moving picture... did indeed help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 There were only 21 teams in the NHL when he was hired. PA had just become eligible for AARP when he was hired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/28/report-sens-murray-to-retire-after-next-season/?utm_network=twitter&utm_post=3740334&utm_source=TW%20%40NHLonNBCSports&utm_tags=srm%5Bhockey%2Carticle%5D Bryan Murray to retire after next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 ]http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/28/report-sens-murray-to-retire-after-next-season/?utm_network=twitter&utm_post=3740334&utm_source=TW%20%40NHLonNBCSports&utm_tags=srm[hockey%2Carticle] Bryan Murray to retire after next year So TM quits after this off-season, right? ;) (Not directed at you Brawndo, just the people that claim Otterland is where TM's heart truly resides.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 There were only 21 teams in the NHL when he was hired. There should still be only 21 teams. Maybe 24. Still not enough talent for 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 There should still be only 21 teams. Maybe 24. Still not enough talent for 30. There should only be six teams, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) So TM quits after this off-season, right? ;) (Not directed at you Brawndo, just the people that claim Otterland is where TM's heart truly resides.) I remember one of Tim Murray's first interviews here with Bulldog. * Bulldog: Will you miss Ottawa? GMTM: Not at all. I really don't think guys in the scouting world get wrapped up in being in a place. They are everyplace almost by definition. *I really don't listen to WGR much. So I could have this wrong. Edited May 28, 2015 by X. Benedict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 LTS....you are missing the 180 of my post. Think about it. If someone would like to give me the power of the PA Atty. Gnl. then I will gladly honor your request. http://www.uselections.com/pa/pa.htm Elections are in 2016. Get your campaign ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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