IKnowPhysics Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 The maximum salary for an NLL player with the franchise tag is $34,000. If Pegula spent that amount every hour, eight hours a day, every day, until he lived to be 100 years old, he still wouldn't have spent all of his money. So maybe they had that conversation once. "Wait, you're telling me I just spent two and a half orders of magnitude more money on Ville Leino than on the one of the best lacrosse players and beloved Buffalo sports figures of all time? Never stop paying that guy. Then when he retires, pay him some more. Pay all of friends whatever too." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 ... And the Bills with Ralph Wilson pretty much out of the picture the last few years. If — and it's a huge if — the Bills franchise is on an uptick, who's to say it's not because the owner was no longer as involved/as meddling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 ... And the Bills with Ralph Wilson pretty much out of the picture the last few years. If — and it's a huge if — the Bills franchise is on an uptick, who's to say it's not because the owner was no longer as involved/as meddling? In what way are the Bills on an uptick? "If Leino is a great player, it's because of the coaching he got from Rolston." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 ... And the Bills with Ralph Wilson pretty much out of the picture the last few years. If — and it's a huge if — the Bills franchise is on an uptick, who's to say it's not because the owner was no longer as involved/as meddling? Here's the thing: Wilson meddling was well known, not an Internet poster's crusade ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 In what way are the Bills on an uptick? "If Leino is a great player, it's because of the coaching he got from Rolston." The Bills are always on the uptick when there are no games to actually play. How else does a significant portion of the fan base fool themselves into thinking this is the year they make the playoffs despite the decade and a half of futility? We fool ourselves into believing that a couple of free agent pick ups and draft picks have improved the team by leaps and bounds and ignore the fact that the rest of the league also had the same ability to improve their clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 It's certainly possible. Maybe I can even find an example. How about the Bandits? Terry owns them, no? Does he involve himself in player personnel decisions? Strategic decisions about the direction of the franchise? I highly doubt it. Does Steve Dietrich huddle with Terry to talk about the future of John Tavares? I highly doubt it. The Bandits?! Dude. (And I take that exasperated tone with all due respect to those who enjoy those games.) I'm pretty sure: The scenario you imagine is not one that has ever existed, nor will it. PAngloss out. :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 The Bandits?! Dude. (And I take that exasperated tone with all due respect to those who enjoy those games.) I'm pretty sure: The scenario you imagine is not one that has ever existed, nor will it. :w00t: Pegula called them the Bisons when he bought them. That should say it all. Why can't we get an indoor soccer team back here? How much could that possibly cost? You can convert a rink in Harbor Center for practice just as easily. It might actually be a good business move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Why do you refuse to accept standard corporate structure? And why do you refuse to accept that someone like GMTM is familiar with and capable of working inside that structure without issue? Because we live in a time where you invent your own reality. And this is PA's world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Because we live in a time where you invent your own reality. And this is PA's world. Is that like Scatman's World? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I will say that, with GMTM able to proceed with the buyout as he stated, my confidence in the Sabres' team leadership moved a few notches upward. And this buyout couldn't have been too easy to swallow. It would rankle the snot out of me to have to pay someone so much money for a six year vacation. I'd be tempted to keep him on the payroll just to fetch equipment from the back or top up my coffee, if I were owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I will say that, with GMTM able to proceed with the buyout as he stated, my confidence in the Sabres' team leadership moved a few notches upward. And this buyout couldn't have been too easy to swallow. It would rankle the snot out of me to have to pay someone so much money for a six year vacation. I'd be tempted to keep him on the payroll just to fetch equipment from the back or top up my coffee, if I were owner. Assign him to the ECHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Is that like Scatman's World? http://youtu.be/FE0XcdM22Yo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Defecting Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 So... if terry being TMs boss should not have meetings and wield power over decisions... does that mean the head amatuer scout makes the call on draft picks? How about the head pro scout on free agent signings? I mean after all TM hired them or kept them to do a job and he should back off and let them do it right! Right? Right? ###### Yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Here's the thing: Wilson meddling was well known, not an Internet poster's crusade ;) Didn't you ever wonder why several GMs gave Murray that advice about dealing with Pegula? Pegula's meddling is also well known — everywhere except in here, I sometimes think. Edited June 19, 2014 by PASabreFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Didn't you ever wonder why several GMs gave Murray that advice about dealing with Pegula? Pegula's meddling is also well known — everywhere except in here, I sometimes think. Can I see the link you are referencing/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Didn't you ever wonder why several GMs gave Murray that advice about dealing with Pegula? Pegula's meddling is also well known — everywhere except in here, I sometimes think. That wasn't about Pegula. That was about every GM giving him a universal truth. The reason Murray said was probably because it was his reason for cutting Lafontaine out of a mediated dialogue with the owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Can I see the link you are referencing/ I'm not referencing a link. That wasn't about Pegula. That was about every GM giving him a universal truth. The reason Murray said was probably because it was his reason for cutting Lafontaine out of a mediated dialogue with the owner. Yeah, sure. How many other universal truths did they feel the need to share? All woman are psychos? A done bun can't be undone? You can't go home again? You can't pop an English muffin and make it land in the other slot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm not referencing a link. I seem to remember Murray saying that the other GMs were giving him advice on how to deal with a certain type of owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm not referencing a link. Yeah, sure. How many other universal truths did they feel the need to share? All woman are psychos? A done bun can't be undone? You can't go home again? You can't pop an English muffin and make it land in the other slot? He said it the day after Lafontaine left. Do the math. Every GM talks to the owner. Murray was going to get it right from the start. He wasn't going to report to Patty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Can I see the link you are referencing/ Not possible to see the links between the synapses without a microscopic brain scan. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 He said it the day after Lafontaine left. Do the math. Every GM talks to the owner. Murray was going to get it right from the start. He wasn't going to report to Patty. We've done the math..... Pegula is batsh!t crazy and likes to pet the bunny. Anyone willing to give me even money on Battista being on stage at the draft for the Sabres' first pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 We've done the math..... Pegula is batsh!t crazy and likes to pet the bunny. Anyone willing to give me even money on Battista being on stage at the draft for the Sabres' first pick? And will Sam Bennett kiss his ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Anyone ever watched Inspector Gadget? Because I have this vision of PA's Pegula sitting in a chair where we can only see him from the neck down while he pets a cat and talks in a low menacing voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Not possible to see the links between the synapses without a microscopic brain scan. :rolleyes: Are you saying I imagined that Murray said it? We've done the math..... Pegula is batsh!t crazy and likes to pet the bunny. Anyone willing to give me even money on Battista being on stage at the draft for the Sabres' first pick? The choreography is always intriguing. I heard that Ted Black is going to blow a tranquilizer dart into Lloyd Bentsen's neck from stage right, then rush in during the commotion and stand next to Terry for the money shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Didn't you ever wonder why several GMs gave Murray that advice about dealing with Pegula? Pegula's meddling is also well known — everywhere except in here, I sometimes think. Can I see the link you are referencing/ I'm not referencing a link. That wasn't about Pegula. That was about every GM giving him a universal truth. The reason Murray said was probably because it was his reason for cutting Lafontaine out of a mediated dialogue with the owner. He said it the day after Lafontaine left. Do the math. Every GM talks to the owner. Murray was going to get it right from the start. He wasn't going to report to Patty. Are you saying I imagined that Murray said it? I'd say you're putting a stank and a spin on what GM TM said to suit your narrative. We need a transcript of that interview. My recollection of what GM TM said was that several other GMs impressed on him the importance of maintaining a free and open line of communication with the owner. Not a free and open line of communication with that P.I.A. meddlesome nincompoop Pegula (as you believe all other GMs know him to be (seriously)), but with owners in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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