26CornerBlitz Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Sabres' Murray talks buyouts, the draft, analytics and more Had the opportunity to spend some time with Sabres GM Tim Murray and many topics were covered so let’s get to it. Murray said there’s a strong possibility that they’ll use the compliance buyout on Ville Leino. Murray says they must still cross the t’s and dot the i’s and have one more conversation withy the owner about it. The buyout period starts either June 15th or 48 hours after the Stanley Cup Finals end and runs through June 30th. Murray maintained that it’s going to take two drafts to build this team. He admitted they are not a Stanley Cup team this year so the draft has to be the focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Murray also had a lot of very good things to say about how he and his staff use analytics. The GM said he didn’t use them until he got to Buffalo and has a full department that breaks it down for him. Imagine that. Blasphemy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Murray maintained that it’s going to take two drafts to build this team. He admitted they are not a Stanley Cup team this year so the draft has to be the focus. Time to start practicing. TANK MkII. Edited June 12, 2014 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Tank on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 One MORE conversation with Terry about buying out Leino? One MORE?! There shouldn't have been one, let alone two — or more. I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastajoe Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 It is a lot of cash to payout to get rid of Leino. Maybe it would be better to keep him as the Tank Commander for another year. It's hard to find players that are guaranteed to not score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 It is a lot of cash to payout to get rid of Leino. Maybe it would be better to keep him as the Tank Commander for another year. It's hard to find players that are guaranteed to not score. This option has been presented an denied potential 1.7 million times. This offseason is the compliance buyout deadline. If you keep him for an extra season just because you want to suck then you're going to be paying for it well into the time where you'd like to actually try and contend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 One MORE conversation with Terry about buying out Leino? One MORE?! There shouldn't have been one, let alone two — or more. I rest my case. Surprised it took you this long. You're either slipping in your old age, or tried watching the World Cup and fell asleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Players must have qualifying offers by June 30th. After talking to Murray there’s no question in my mind that Tyler Ennis, Marcus Foligno, Chad Ruhwedel, Cory Conacher, Luke Adam and Matt Hackett will get qualifying offers. Uh...what? Adam? God, no. But I guess it's all about maximizing assets for him. I just don't get how Adam + offer = maximizing assets. Of all the goalies in the Sabres system it seems to me that Murray likes the future of Nathan Lieuwen the best. Absolutely. And you guys had a field day with me when I said the kid has potential. Here’s how it works, according to Murray: His scouting rankings rate players on a 1-7 scale, with seven being elite and one being the poorest rating. The reason it’s 1-7 is because of the number of standard deviations: Four being an average player, five above average, six a star, seven elite and the same for 1-3. We can use this scale to rank posters here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Uh...what? Adam? God, no. But I guess it's all about maximizing assets for him. I just don't get how Adam + offer = maximizing assets. Absolutely. And you guys had a field day with me when I said the kid has potential. We can use this scale to rank posters here... No harm in qualifying Luke Adam. He provides depth for camp, and was Rochester's best goalscorer. It's not likely he has any trouble clearing waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 No harm in qualifying Luke Adam. He provides depth for camp, and was Rochester's best goalscorer. It's not likely he has any trouble clearing waivers. Luke is going to fill the net on Grigo's wing in Rochester this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Surprised it took you this long. You're either slipping in your old age, or tried watching the World Cup and fell asleep. Ha! I might be the only one, but I still think it's an important question. If the owner has hired good people, what in the world can he possibly contribute IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS on the topic of whether Leino should be bought out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Ha! I might be the only one, but I still think it's an important question. If the owner has hired good people, what in the world can he possibly contribute IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS on the topic of whether Leino should be bought out? A check he needs to sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Ha! I might be the only one, but I still think it's an important question. If the owner has hired good people, what in the world can he possibly contribute IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS on the topic of whether Leino should be bought out? You are trying to convince him to throw away $18 million and admit his first big move was a huge mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 You are trying to convince him to throw away $18 million and admit his first big move was a huge mistake. "What is this, Tim? I don't need another piece of computer paper. I'm rich as ######." "Actually, Terry, that's not a blank piece of computer paper. I printed out a visual representation of how many goals Ville Leino scored this season." "Man, I ###### up, didn't I Timmy?" "Yea boss, ya did." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Absolutely. And you guys had a field day with me when I said the kid has potential. The dude's had 3 concussions already. Let's hope he has any career left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 "What is this, Tim? I don't need another piece of computer paper. I'm rich as ######." "Actually, Terry, that's not a blank piece of computer paper. I printed out a visual representation of how many goals Ville Leino scored this season." "Man, I ###### up, didn't I Timmy?" "Yea boss, ya did." hahahahahahh. If this wasn't so long I'd take this as my signature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Uh...what? Adam? God, no. But I guess it's all about maximizing assets for him. I just don't get how Adam + offer = maximizing assets. Yeah, I did a spit take when I read that. Maybe he'll just be a forever AHLer helping to get the kids ready to move up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 "What is this, Tim? I don't need another piece of computer paper. I'm rich as ######." "Actually, Terry, that's not a blank piece of computer paper. I printed out a visual representation of how many goals Ville Leino scored this season." "Man, I ###### up, didn't I Timmy?" "Yea boss, ya did." Hahaha. Well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Does anyone know whether audio from this interview was posted anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Don't think they taped it. Sounds like it was just Timmy and the Wgr boys in casual conversation in the Sabres war room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 One MORE conversation with Terry about buying out Leino? One MORE?! There shouldn't have been one, let alone two — or more. I rest my case. If I'm Murray, I print this out - http://sabres.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474551 frame it, and hang it on Pegula's wall for his continued reference. No need for further discussion, at least not with anyone with an IQ of 90 or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Tank on Buffalo, Tank on. It's all about McDavid and Eichel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Ha! I might be the only one, but I still think it's an important question. If the owner has hired good people, what in the world can he possibly contribute IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS on the topic of whether Leino should be bought out? Please name another owner in the NHL whom you think would NOT be consulted by his GM on a buyout costing this much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) Please name another owner in the NHL whom you think would NOT be consulted by his GM on a buyout costing this much. But how many times does it need to be communicated? It seems to me it makes more sense to use the buyout than pay him for doing nothing except setting a bad laughable example for the up and coming players. I wonder if it could cause internal strife if GMTM strongly advocates dumping this dead wood, and Battista/Pegula override him? Edited June 14, 2014 by Jsixspd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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