Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Imagine if they defer to next year and then have some wacky tank season... Or...they do well and you just traded Vanek for the 28th and 58th picks 2 years from now...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Imagine if they defer to next year and then have some wacky tank season... and we finish last, the isles second to last and we STILL don't win the lottery and lose out on McDavid. Or...they do well and you just traded Vanek for the 28th and 58th picks 2 years from now...... And Moulson or whatever we get for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Or...they do well and you just traded Vanek for the 28th and 58th picks 2 years from now...... That's assuming we get nothing for Moulson. Bad assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 and we finish last, the isles second to last and we STILL don't win the lottery and lose out on McDavid. And Moulson or whatever we get for him. Trying to lockup the vote for most popular poster I see. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 and we finish last, the isles second to last and we STILL don't win the lottery and lose out on McDavid. I like your avatar much more than you :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Berries Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 I think I read somewhere the pick for this year would be 10-25, so maybe this means we have the power to defer as well. If the pick is that low. Idk, wishful thinking probably. Could you imagine next years draft(2015) with 2 firsts and 3 seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 I like your avatar much more than you :P I don't know, she looks like she has a freakishly large left arm and a tiny right one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 I don't know, she looks like she has a freakishly large left arm and a tiny right one. I'm already over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Isles have some pick protection: @Real_ESPNLeBrun So it's Isles' option to either have Buffalo pick this year or next if it's top 10. A little insurance for Isles Hmmmmm, that's not great. Although if the pick ends up being around 9 or 10 I would almost hope they defer to next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 So we root for the bottom to fall out and they finish last the next two years, right? (Or close to) Or...they do well and you just traded Vanek for the 28th and 58th picks 2 years from now...... A MAN CAN DREAM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabres1970 Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Isles will not be in the top ten though. I guess the logic is that if they are in the top ten for some reason they think Vanek won't want to re-up with them and will want to finish his career with a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 And Moulson or whatever we get for him. Sure... How come these details don't get released at the time of the trade? That's a pretty key point. If the Islanders are on the upswing and just miss the playoffs this year, and the west continues their domination over the east, NY could very well have the 8th-10th pick in 2014. There is a HUGE difference between getting the #9 in 2014 or the #23 in 2015....which is a very possible outcome. Isles will not be in the top ten though. I guess the logic is that if they are in the top ten for some reason they think Vanek won't want to re-up with them and will want to finish his career with a winner. BINGO!!! What happens if Snow sees the Isles as a coinflip to even get into the playoffs at the deadline, they trade Vanek, recoup a 1st and 2nd in 2014....then get to defer their pick to 2015? Did Snow get Snowed then? This bit of info is a huge piece that was left out. The Islanders have tons of options now. If they are in it solidly...keep plugging and you gave up a #15-20. If something goes bad, they just moved up a year on a 1st and 2nd round draft pick. Yes Moulson is in there as well....but who knows what happens there. I'm assuming he is worth a 2nd if traded give or take. By the way...the Isles are 1 point out of having the #7 pick today...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 That tweet is a little garbled: So, if Islanders end up with a top-10 pick in 2014, they have the option to defer the 1st rounder we got until 2015? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 That tweet is a little garbled: So, if Islanders end up with a top-10 pick in 2014, they have the option to defer the 1st rounder we got until 2015? Ding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Darcy has this all thought out. Miller to Isles thus giving them a huge part of our former core, and boom Isles pick 12th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 This seems worse every time another detail emerges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Meh - it takes a little shine off of what seemed like a peach of a deal for the Sabres. And if Moulson can continue to do his best Dave Andreychuck [sic?] impersonation, we should see at least another mid-/late-1st rounder out of this deal as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 This seems worse every time another detail emerges. I have almost no confidence in the Islanders finishing in the bottom ten of the league with Vanek there. So we're pretty much guarunteed 10-20 pick, which is where I thought we'd end up anyways. Besides, even if we do have to swap for 2015 because they finish bottm 10, they'll be even worse next year (as they're built right now) so we could end up getting an even better pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 It's already more than he got for Drury and Briere. Baby steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhantomListWriter Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) Top 10 As of Yet-Unannounced Additional Unpleasant Addendums to the Vanek-Moulson Trade 10. Sabres must use second-round pick on still another player whose last name is a major brand of beer 9. Islanders receive all net proceeds of "Shields vs. Snow, The Rematch" on PPV 8. Butch Goring gets to use Vanek's "Around the World" move on his wife (swirl, not twist, at the end) 7. Tartar sauce only approved condiment at First Niagara Center concession stands 6. Pegula to pay Wang $100 million cash or certain "wang photos" will be released to TMZ 5. Billy Smith gets to butt-end Ron Rolston — one time, but he's going to make it good 4. ..... Help. Edited October 29, 2013 by ThePhantomListWriter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 4) If Vanek doesn't resign with the Islanders, Darcy Regier must donate the rest of his hair to Charles Wang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 8. Butch Goring gets to use Vanek's "Around the World" move on his wife (swirl, not twist, at the end) hahaha :lol: +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Anybody else going to watch Vanek tonight against the Rangers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Anybody else going to watch Vanek tonight against the Rangers? Watching now. Just saw a closeup of him in his new duds and boy it was weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Watching now, may be buying his jersey if he resigns as the Isles are my second fave team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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